The falling away

[eternally-gratefull]

: The falling away

Originally Posted by just-me
Continuing to teach the adult class, as the weeks went by, I was stopped short when I started teaching about the schoolmaster, while continuing on the topic of faith. Not knowing it then, I was contradicting the doctrine of the church when I said,
“If the law led you to Christ, and then when you tell others that the law is eradicated, it is ludicrous. For to tell the unsaved that it’s negated, takes away the very tool God has given you to bring you to Christ.”
Continuing to explain this truth I asked “How then are the unsaved able to come to Christ the way you did?”

I thought it was a good question, but the leadership of the church escorted me out after they said I was causing confusion. I have since determined that there was confusion in this church before I was invited to teach, and the net continues to be thrown out on the wrong side of the boat.



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This is the falling away exposed in it's true form. Thank you for the clarity. Hope God blesses you some day with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I reckon it's time to chose this day whom your going to serve everyone. Are we going to let it ride, and contribute to the "falling away," or are we going to fight it as believers in Christ. Put on the armor. Your choice.

I disagree, The falling away is when the church as a WHOLE has turned from God to a different gospel.

The law is done away with, It can not condemn us anymore. The death of Christ did away with that by taking IT's Punishment on our behalf.

When you teach law to an unbeliever, your taking them to what Peter warned against, Placing them under the same yoke WE COULD NOT OURSELVES OBEY.

All one needs to do is teach romans 3: 23 and other chapters like this. People ALREADY know in their heart that they ar eguilty (romans 1 makes this clear) they do not need to be told again.

A church that goes back to the old will fail.

 

[crossnote]

Good scripture my friend. I would like to add to John's scripture that you posted.

1 John 2:18-22 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

If one says they trust Jesus, then they have to trust God the Father in all things also. Thank you.

I guess my point is if they permanently leave it shows they were not of us in the first place.

 

[just-me]

I disagree, The falling away is when the church as a WHOLE has turned from God to a different gospel.

The law is done away with, It can not condemn us anymore. The death of Christ did away with that by taking IT's Punishment on our behalf.

When you teach law to an unbeliever, your taking them to what Peter warned against, Placing them under the same yoke WE COULD NOT OURSELVES OBEY.

All one needs to do is teach romans 3: 23 and other chapters like this. People ALREADY know in their heart that they ar eguilty (romans 1 makes this clear) they do not need to be told again.

A church that goes back to the old will fail.

I have questions for you. By what means do you lead the lost to Christ? Do you use the God given tool that Paul said to use, or do you use a different tool besides what God has given, now that you say that "the law is done away with?"

Galatians 3:24-25 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 3:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

What do you use to prove Romans 3:23 to the lost?

 

[Josh321]

[h=3]2 Timothy 3:5[/h]King James Version (KJV)

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


isn't this prophecy being fulfilled even in this forum? i will explain it to you if you don't know what this means, having a form of godliness you haven't receive the holy spirit, your being self righteous and showing forms of Godliness and when someone comes to you with the power of the holy spirit with things you can't understand you deny it and say that it is false, also a form of godliness is you think you are righteous in your own eyes when in reality you are very far from it some people don't even understand what the holy spirit is or what happens when you receive it that is the problem

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have questions for you. By what means do you lead the lost to Christ? Do you use the God given tool that Paul said to use, or do you use a different tool besides what God has given, now that you say that "the law is done away with?"

Galatians 3:24-25 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 3:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

What do you use to prove Romans 3:23?

How?

Do I do like the pharisees and the legalistic churches of america do? Judge them?

You have to stop living in sin, Your having sex out of marraige (or insert any sin) and the Law says that is sin, and you are condemned by it.

All this does is causes the others to feel judged, Stck their hand out, and say how dare you judge me, who are you?? (I know, I have seen this to many times to count.,


Or do I show them things like romans 3: 23.. How every one of us, Including myself, has gone against God. Thus we all have fallen short of Gods just requirement.

All of us are in the same situation. The only thing which can free us of this, is that God sent his own son to die in our place. that whoever trusts him, will never perish, But has everlasting life.

I have seen this work in peoples lives MANY MANY times.

There is no judgment, Because your not calling out their sin. Just calling out their position and alienation from God. no matter what sin they have committed.

Jesus said he did not come to judge (which the law does) but to save.. God uses the law as a schoolmater. he does not need us to use it. That is what the HS's Job is..

He convicts of rightiousness, judgment and sin.. Your trying to take the job of the HS, This is wrong!

 

[just-me]

2 Timothy 3:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


isn't this prophecy being fulfilled even in this forum? i will explain it to you if you don't know what this means, having a form of godliness you haven't receive the holy spirit, your being self righteous and showing forms of Godliness and when someone comes to you with the power of the holy spirit with things you can't understand you deny it and say that it is false, also a form of godliness is you think you are righteous in your own eyes when in reality you are very far from it some people don't even understand what the holy spirit is or what happens when you receive it that is the problem

Thanks for bringing that out Josh.


1. 1 Corinthians 6:9, Paul identifies "cheap grace" with deception: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
2. 1 Corinthians 15:33, "Do not be deceived: 'Evil company corrupts good habits.'"
3. 2 Corinthians 11:3, "But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
4. Galatians 6:7, Paul warns those who think that they can get away with sin: "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap."
5. 2 Timothy 3:13, This is a problem that will constantly threaten us in this life: "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."
6. Titus 3:3, It is the very condition out of which we have been converted: "For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another."
7. James 1:16, "Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren."

Revelation 20:8, 10, It is the devil's design to "deceive the nations."

This is a mere sampling of the Bible's warnings. Deception is spiritually deadly because at every point that you believe lies you cannot believe truth, and it is the truth that sets us free and by which we are sanctified (John 8:32, John 17:17).

If deception is dangerous, self-deception is disastrous. When you have been deceived by another, that person shares the blame for your condition, but when your deception is self-imposed, you alone are accountable. Further, self-deception is perniciously destructive. It is hard to detect and harder to eliminate.

 

[just-me]

Sin is deceiving. It’s seductive. It kills, but it always has to have an occasion, or a starting point. So what can we do to identify it? Identification of the beginning of sin is accomplished by authoritive instructions. Use these instructions for they have a great purpose for us to identify deception by knowing the truth.

Here is a verse that can easily be used to deceive. It can be used for deception if verses 12-14 are neglected.

Romans 7:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Italicized added, not in the original translation.

I have been enlightened on this verse more times than I can count, trying to put me in the category of a pharisee by the works of the law. It could have been with good intentions, but lately it has been presented with great animosity. The presentation was to prove that the law produces the sin of works without faith if we don’t throw it away. So I thought I would break it down and look up some of the words in the concordance to see if I was really missing something.

Taking=grabbing
Occasion=starting point
Commandment=authoritive instructions
Deceived=seduced
It=the situation
Slew=destroyed

It has always been presented as if the commandment causes us to sin, just like some say that God created sin, relating that to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in Eden. I can’t buy that either. The evil is the judgment of God against the sin. Anyway, this is the way it would read using the definitions above. For your edification keep the principle of Revelation 22:18 in mind.
Romans 7:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, grabbing a starting point by the authoritive instructions, seduced
me, and the situation destroyed.

It appears that sin is the seducer leading to destruction rather than the authority of the commandment. I wondered about that some, but not very long, because the presentation was filled with a rather unloving nature labeling me as a self-righteousness hypocrite, because I esteem the law as holy, good and Spiritual and very useful to me.

Now, to repeat, because this is very important, every time I have been given this scripture to correct my corrupt way of thinking, verse 12 thru 14 was never mentioned.

Romans 7:12-14 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Why would anyone ever try to make Christians believe that what is holy, just, and good produces self-righteous works without faith? The truth is that the law identifies this corruption because we cannot be righteous by it. We are the ones that are weak, NOT the law that comes from God.

 

[vic1980]

2 Timothy 3:16-17

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rightousness:

That the man of God may be perfect,throughly furnished unto all good works.

God bless

 

[just-me]

All scripture, not just some of scripture. I really like people like you who love all of God's Word. It is so uplifting.

Matthew 4:3-4 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

During that time of temptation, have you ever wondered who was there to record those events? I suppose Jesus told His disciples what the deal was.

 

[weakness]

That falling away will occur in part because certain false brethren will have chosen to not love the truth, therefore they will believe lies. It will not be a few.



2Th 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2Th 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

2Th 2:14
Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Th 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

I think it is important to note that it is god who is ultimately sending or allowing the strong delusion to believe the lie that all who believe not the truth will be damned.This cuts through all the churchyness and decidable Christianity, which results in the real true believers manifestation, since rational discernment ,as a tool for truth is no longer viable because of the gross darkness covering the people, calling evil good and good evil etc. I find it in my heart rather than debate a point Gods Spirit tells me not to try because of its not profitable and that THE times of such falsehood, only God himself is able to sort things out.And will as prophesied. And as spoken except God shorten the time even the very elect would be deceived.We hear about praying for revival ,to me is almost an excuse to pray for something god has already given us the means to do,making this prayer an excuse, and in reality blaming God for a lack of provision for revival instead of ourselves for not walking in it

 

[weakness]

why is my little green button not green anymore??????? any one Know???

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

why is my little green button not green anymore??????? any one Know???

Oh no. I just gave you a like. Maybe that will wake it back up.

 

[Canchristiansgetalong]

If we pray to God and study the word of God with sincerity daily, I believe it is very difficult for Satan to deceive us. I do, however, see in the christian world today there is a misconception that questioning or doubting is "falling away" or "being deceived." A wise friend once told me that a question or a doubt is not a sin, but what you do with a question or a doubt can become a sin. God has told us:[h=3]1 Kings 3:11[/h]11 And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked [SUP]a[/SUP]riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine [SUP]b[/SUP]enemies; but hast asked for thyself [SUP]c[/SUP]understanding to discern judgment; 12 Behold, I have done according to thy words: lo, I have [SUP]a[/SUP]given thee a [SUP]b[/SUP]wise and an understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.

• [h=3] Matthew 7:12[/h] 12 Say unto them; ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
  

• [h=3]John 11:22[/h] 22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.
  

• [h=3]James 1:5[/h] 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
  
  We must go the source of all truth for our answers. We must go to God in humble, sincere prayer. If we go to God in prayer and ask Him about our questions and then study and then ask again, he has promised us that he will answer us. When we do not go to Him for answers, that is when we leave ourselves open to be deceived. I have found that questioning and having doubts and then going to God and studying it out and then praying again is a process that brings me closer to my heavenly father.
  
  The savior knew and understood this principle and it is one reason why he taught in parables. He taught the people so they had questions. Parables were hard to understand. Those who humbly went to God or asked Him the meaning, would receive it by the spirit. He knew that the pharisees and sadducees would not go to God for understanding and therefore they would not understand.
  In Mark 4 Jesus teaches this:
  
  9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
  10 And when he was [SUP]a[/SUP]alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
  11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the [SUP]a[/SUP]mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in [SUP]b[/SUP]parables.
  12 That seeing they may see, and not [SUP]a[/SUP]perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be [SUP]b[/SUP]forgiven them.
  
  I think verse 12 is especially interesting because he says they do not hear and not understand lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven. Those who do not ask God here in this example seem to almost be afraid that they actually would be converted so they do not ask and therefore, they do not receive. They are deceived by choice. That is why we must ask God and trust He will not let us, "fall away."
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[pickles]

Isaiah 59:13-15 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.


If something is falling away, then they had to be close to or attached to that which they are falling away from. In scripture it is clear, that the church is the closest to Christ Jesus and the Father than anything else. If one thinks it’s the way of the world, you have to consider that the world was never close enough to fall, because they’ve always been at the bottom. So the “falling away” pertains to the church only, if you can find logic in that. I can. So if the church is attached to the Word of God (the Bible), it must be related to falling away from the Word. How would, or could that ever happen?

Denying parts of scripture as no longer important, because of other Bible references seem to contradict previous scripture, and to deem some verses as higher in quality than others. When that happens, the church loses, or falls away from the truth. So one would have to say that the “falling away” is losing the truth.

Is it really happening? Are we laying the groundwork for the tribulation, because we have become apathetically numb to the whole truth? Do you agree, or do you disagree? Give examples of real instances that you have experienced if possible. I think the input will be revealing to those who are sincerely looking for the truth as it is today.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

As I read your post, it reminded me alot of when Jesus spoke to when many will say about Him, here he is, no, here he is, all pointing to this one and that one as Jesus, when it is not, and to be careful not to be decieived.

When I first read the scripture about this, I thought it would be about this one or another claiming to be Jesus.
But now, I see more that it speaks to faulse teachings and docturines, where it claims this is the way or one must do this or that.
I see so many racing to and fro trying to embrace one teaching or another, believing that this must be what saves.
When Jesus Himself said, I am the way, the truth and the life.
For what saves us is not a worldly substance that one can hold in hand or mind.
But only by faith in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, recieiving Gods gift of grace, where we are no longer of flesh but now spirit.
The written word is given to bring us to Jesus, God Our Father.
For faith cometh by the reading the word, and understanding cometh by faith.

God bless
pickles

 

[just-me]

As I read your post, it reminded me alot of when Jesus spoke to when many will say about Him, here he is, no, here he is, all pointing to this one and that one as Jesus, when it is not, and to be careful not to be decieived.

When I first read the scripture about this, I thought it would be about this one or another claiming to be Jesus.
But now, I see more that it speaks to faulse teachings and docturines, where it claims this is the way or one must do this or that.
I see so many racing to and fro trying to embrace one teaching or another, believing that this must be what saves.
When Jesus Himself said, I am the way, the truth and the life.
For what saves us is not a worldly substance that one can hold in hand or mind.
But only by faith in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, recieiving Gods gift of grace, where we are no longer of flesh but now spirit.
The written word is given to bring us to Jesus, God Our Father.
For faith cometh by the reading the word, and understanding cometh by faith.

God bless
pickles

Thank you Pickles. You made good sense, and brought forth truth. While I was reading your post I was reminded of some scripture.

Romans 10:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Isaiah 52:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7[/SUP]How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

Romans 10:16 (KJV) [SUP]16 [/SUP]But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

Isaiah 53:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

Romans 10:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[Brother_Don]

i'm not good with words, so i'll use Davids, Psalms 25:1-5, Unto thee, Oh LORD,do i lift up my soul. O my God, i trust in thee; let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me. Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed; let them be ashamed which transgress with out cause. Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths. Lead me in thy truth, and teach me; for though art the God of my salvation; on thee do i wait........ waking up with this mind set every day, seems like a good way to stay close to God, and may prevent falling away.

 

[just-me]

i'm not good with words, so i'll use Davids, Psalms 25:1-5, Unto thee, Oh LORD,do i lift up my soul. O my God, i trust in thee; let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me. Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed; let them be ashamed which transgress with out cause. Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths. Lead me in thy truth, and teach me; for though art the God of my salvation; on thee do i wait........ waking up with this mind set every day, seems like a good way to stay close to God, and may prevent falling away.

How inspiring!!! Really. It goes right along with what I wanted to post next. GBU

 

[just-me]

Now, so that I am very clear, Sunday morning worship is right in my book. Really right! So please don’t misunderstand me when I talk about the seventh day of the week, in relation to the first day of the week. All I am doing is exposing false doctrines that enhance the “falling away” of the church.

Don’t ever think that Jesus did away with the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] commandment, and that it has nothing to do with the New Testament of Christ. It has EVERYTHING to do with the finished work of the new covenant through Christ, our Lord and Savior!

Genesis 2:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Exodus 20:8-9 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

John 12:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

Hebrews 4:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

FYI
Jesus was buried on the Sabbath day, which is the yearly Passover.
Remember this day and keep it holy.
Remember the ushering in of the New Testament.
Remember…………..Remember!
He said, “do this in remembrance of Me.”

John 19:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
John 19:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
James 1:15-16 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not err, my beloved brethren.

I may not practice my beliefs outwardly by demanding to assemble together on Saturday as many do. I don’t scoff, and ridicule those that do. Neither one is wrong. What I will present however is that the seventh day of the week was established from the beginning, showing us of the finished wok that Jesus came to do for our sakes. Six days we work and toil, every day, for six days we pray, every day we experience God in our lives seeing a drastic difference between what we believe, and the way the worlds is. When we come together after those six days, I sincerely believe that God wants us to not only remember the death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord, but He also wants us to share with each other the personal walk that we had with Him during the previous six days. In that way, we edify each other, we glorify our Lord, and are refreshed to face another six days with a little more strength than we had the week before. Remember the seventh day (whether Saturday or Sunday) and keep it holy.

Philippians 4:6-9 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

 

[my_adonai_]

A big addition bro,

I believe it starts with falling away from doing the works that GOD expects from us, the foundations that are daily time with the LORD. When the devil takes this from us, what happens? we wont get to hear from GOD often, and we start hearing more from our flesh and from the devil, then we start commonising the voice of God and start thinking that it is the voice of satan when He puts in our hearts to spend more time reading HIS word and praying.

Because i believe with ALL MY HEART, that prayer and Word reading go HAND IN HAND. More prayer, more closeness to THE FATHER, more truth more learning more direction, more of everything that GOD wants us to have.
(Draw nigh unto God, and HE will draw nigh unto us)
If the devil can destroy the connection to our spiritual life source, then all that is left will be an easy pickings.

This is the seed that is planted amongst the thorns, that the cares of this world, and riches and pleasures slowly take GODs place in our hearts till we are totaly consumed by it. and in all this, we go into expectations that may be GOD will change and start speaking LOUDLY through a rod or a large voice in our hearts. but HE stays the same, gentle but full of authority.

the word of GOD says that the HOLY SPIRIT will lead us into all truth, where else can we go if we want to stand in the truth?

 

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Now, so that I am very clear, Sunday morning worship is right in my book. Really right! So please don’t misunderstand me when I talk about the seventh day of the week, in relation to the first day of the week. All I am doing is exposing false doctrines that enhance the “falling away” of the church.

Don’t ever think that Jesus did away with the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] commandment, and that it has nothing to do with the New Testament of Christ. It has EVERYTHING to do with the finished work of the new covenant through Christ, our Lord and Savior!

Genesis 2:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Exodus 20:8-9 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

John 12:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

Hebrews 4:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

FYI
Jesus was buried on the Sabbath day, which is the yearly Passover.
Remember this day and keep it holy.
Remember the ushering in of the New Testament.
Remember…………..Remember!
He said, “do this in remembrance of Me.”

John 19:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
John 19:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
James 1:15-16 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not err, my beloved brethren.

I may not practice my beliefs outwardly by demanding to assemble together on Saturday as many do. I don’t scoff, and ridicule those that do. Neither one is wrong. What I will present however is that the seventh day of the week was established from the beginning, showing us of the finished wok that Jesus came to do for our sakes. Six days we work and toil, every day, for six days we pray, every day we experience God in our lives seeing a drastic difference between what we believe, and the way the worlds is. When we come together after those six days, I sincerely believe that God wants us to not only remember the death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord, but He also wants us to share with each other the personal walk that we had with Him during the previous six days. In that way, we edify each other, we glorify our Lord, and are refreshed to face another six days with a little more strength than we had the week before. Remember the seventh day (whether Saturday or Sunday) and keep it holy.

Philippians 4:6-9 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

Sundays services are awesome.!!..
There is this freshness about it..!!..