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bao

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i am not a gay~
but our country is going to create laws about the homo marriage.so i'm thinking about that.
if those homosexual people love their partner and willing to live with him/her in their rest of life,i think it's ok.
but lots of friends,Preachers deny it.
there are their prayer:(i am not sure the translation is right:))
Lord Jesus, we, as children of God to serve Thy name bundled over Taiwan that sensuality, lust, perversion, arrogant, rebellious, and confuse the evil power of moral truth, Thy hand from heaven hinder the adoption of these same-sex marriage bill the destruction of the evil counsels; also Thy voice in the legislature for the truth emerging leaders to halt these unjust bill; let our young people can hear more of the teachings of truth and holiness. Thank you to pray for the country and the leader's authority and responsibilities entrusted to us, let us Thy faithful in this matter. The statue of Jesus prayer of winning, Amen!

i really be confused by this.
is there anyone can give me the answer?
the homosexual love could be sin?
(i am not good at English,so there may have some mistakes:p)
 
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"...the homosexual love could be sin?"

You know what sin is. Probably you know what LOVE is so, "homosexual love" referred to SEX is no EROS, but LUST. The rest is easy to read on dictionaries.

By the way! LUST never pleases. It´s like a drug.
 
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Bao, homosexual acts are a sin, but that doesn't mean you have to get discouraged if your country makes the marriages legal. There will be sin until the world ends, just keep your own path straight, and witness to those God sends your way. Tell of the love of Jesus.

Homosexual marriage is becoming law in America too, and it doesn't matter for a believer. Jesus loves us all, and we are all sinners. :)
 
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Richie_2uk

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No offence bao, it is not ok if they are married and live there lives good, No matter how gay marriages are, they still in the wrong in God's eyes. He has forbidded homo sexuals, they will not inherit heaven. there are clear statements in the bible about what God thinks, and commands about homosexuals. So of course preachers are going to deny it because people cant see how wrong homosexual and there practices are. You cannot live a life being a Christian and be gay at the same time. There is only one God, you cannot serve 2 masters, its all in the bible.

People of Taiwan, has a somewhat Ignorance attitude towards the truth about Gays, homosexuals of all kinds. Its because thats the life they all lived, there is a way out of it, but most heart of the Taiwan people are hardened. as in other countries too. So they try to by pass the truth, and make life of there own without God, hence the carry on with there wrong practices.
 
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Richie_2uk

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Jesus Loves all, even a gay, homosexual person, a murderer, a child molester, paedaphile, and the list goes on, he loves us all, but he dont like the sin they practice. So they have a choice, God or Sin? most will choose sin, but for those who repent against there sin, then they will be blessed and there journey will be heading on the right track. Sin will always happen no matter what. Just you be God's leading person, as he leads you to tell people of God's love, and what people must do to obtain his forgiveness.
 
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NewEagle

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You can't be holy if you are a practicing homosexual.

Any preacher can say or preach what he wants to, but if it does not agree with what the Bible says then it is not true.

This verse is one of several in the Bible that speaks about homosexuality:

I Cor 6:9 - Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.[SUP]

[/SUP]Have you tried doing a detailed search in the Bible for scriptures that deal with this subject and asking God to give you wisdom to understand?

Because I can say one thing, the YouTube preacher can say another, and still others have other opinions, but the Word of God is the final authority.
 
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Being homosexual in and of itself is not a sin, it is the act of homosexuality. I view homosexuality as being very similar to a porn or sex addiction. The difference? A homosexual is attracted to the same sex. Both things are sins, encouraging marriages between same sexes is like encouraging someone to look at porn or have promiscuous sex, bad idea.

The bible DOES make it clear that it is a sin no matter how you look at it, or how others like to construe verses and take things out of context. Sin is sin.
 
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I am not a Catholic but I'm going to quote the Pope on the subject of homosexuality. The Pope said "if this person leads a good life and seeks God then who I am to judge", not word for word but close. I know what the Bible says about homosexuality but it's not my business what goes on in these people's private lives, if they are Christian then they must answer to God for all their sins as must I and I can tell you I have many sins to answer for. Scientists are doing research into homosexuality developing in the womb where the fetus is exposed to the wrong hormones during certain stages of development.
 
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bao

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i did.
but i am not sure what's that really meansˊˇˋ~
then everyone will give me different explaines.
 
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bao

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Being homosexual in and of itself is not a sin, it is the act of homosexuality. I view homosexuality as being very similar to a porn or sex addiction. The difference? A homosexual is attracted to the same sex. Both things are sins, encouraging marriages between same sexes is like encouraging someone to look at porn or have promiscuous sex, bad idea.

The bible DOES make it clear that it is a sin no matter how you look at it, or how others like to construe verses and take things out of context. Sin is sin.
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i did.
but i am not sure what's that really meansˊˇˋ~
then everyone will give me different explaines.
 
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Alicia said:
I know what the Bible says about homosexuality but it's not my business what goes on in these people's private lives, if they are Christian then they must answer to God for all their sins as must I and I can tell you I have many sins to answer for.
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I kinda disagree with you to a certain extent, Yes we all have sinned and come short of God's Glory, but if we see our brother/sister sinking will we not trow them a life vest, if they are in danger will we not rescue them. Matthew 25:40-45, we should not allow our brothers fall into sin if it is in our power to help them
 
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I kinda disagree with you to a certain extent, Yes we all have sinned and come short of God's Glory, but if we see our brother/sister sinking will we not trow them a life vest, if they are in danger will we not rescue them. Matthew 25:40-45, we should not allow our brothers fall into sin if it is in our power to help them
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The fastest way to drive someone away from Christianity is to point out what they're doing wrong, they become defensive and feel that they're being looked down on.
It is not in our power to help someone who is homosexual they are the way they are I don't believe they can help it, some of them have told me they wished they could be normal but that they knew from childhood that they were somehow different. We're just going to have to disagree on this because I believe that in the future, with God's help we will discover that it is a birth defect. Leave this one to God to sort out!
 
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The fastest way to drive someone away from Christianity is to point out what they're doing wrong, they become defensive and feel that they're being looked down on.
It is not in our power to help someone who is homosexual they are the way they are I don't believe they can help it, some of them have told me they wished they could be normal but that they knew from childhood that they were somehow different. We're just going to have to disagree on this because I believe that in the future, with God's help we will discover that it is a birth defect. Leave this one to God to sort out!
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It is definitely within in our power to help save a sinning soul, so are you telling me if you saw me going down a road theist and robbery you will let me go down that road because that is how I am. All sin leads to death and we should not want to see our brothers die.
 
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People are just born that way - that is nothing new, it is a very ancient claim. Since Adam we are all born that way - with irresistible inclinations that are hostile to the blessings God wants for us. Some are born with irresistible heterosexual inclinations that guide their hearts into adultery. The holy standard is on opposite spouse - or single - for life. Not just in deed, but from the heart. No one is born that way. We were all born with other irresistible inclinations. The way each one of us is from birth is unholy. That is why we need a Savior. That is why we need a regenerated character. We are not born children of God. We are given the opportunity to BECOME children of God. Those of us who reject that opportunity will be judged for that rejection and for loving the unholy character that they were born with.
 
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Alicia said:
The fastest way to drive someone away from Christianity is to point out what they're doing wrong,
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As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. 1 Timothy 5:20

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 2:16-17

Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Galatians 6:1

It is not in our power to help someone who is homosexual they are the way they are I don't believe they can help it
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The bible makes it very clear we are to help lead others away from sin. We are told to help those in need. People living in sin need salvation. Saying it isn't in our power to help someone means Christianity is pointless.
some of them have told me they wished they could be normal but that they knew from childhood that they were somehow different.
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And with God they can be freed from this sin.
with God's help we will discover that it is a birth defect. Leave this one to God to sort out!
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Is it better just to believe homosexuality is a birth defect than to accept what scripture says?
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. 1 Timothy 5:20

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 2:16-17

Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Galatians 6:1


The bible makes it very clear we are to help lead others away from sin. We are told to help those in need. People living in sin need salvation. Saying it isn't in our power to help someone means Christianity is pointless.

And with God they can be freed from this sin.

Is it better just to believe homosexuality is a birth defect than to accept what scripture says?
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I'd like this a million times if I could, very well said.

To the OP, you have and always will get very different opinions on this subject. I know my sister went to a christian college where one of the teachers had a sex change and lost their job and this person actually used scripture to defend their actions. It's nothing new. You will find people both very pro-gay and anti-gay twisting scripture to fit whatever lifestyle and standpoint they want. All you can do is search the bible yourself and pray about it and come up with whatever solution it is God gives you even if you don't agree with it, always be open to His voice regardless of whether you like where it leads or not.
 
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Alicia said:
The fastest way to drive someone away from Christianity is to point out what they're doing wrong
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Do you know what the gospel is? You must acknowledge your sin before you can accept Jesus. Not realizing your sin, makes you ignorant to the truth.
 
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If you preach the gospel of Jesus Christ it will drive most people away. The gospel is the fragrance of death to those who are perishing. It convicts men of sin. You can not bypass conviction of sin and preach the gospel.
 
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