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For my dear brothers in Christ. There are some things you need to know about women. Eve was decieved not Adam is one reason you are in authority. Did Adam believe God was decieving him and he could be God if he ate the fruit? No. Eve did. The Bible says Adam was not decieved. That is a good thing. Check the context in scripture. Eve wanted to be God. No suprise women want to be the husband. The Bible gives the fact that the male was created first as one reason he is in charge. The op is decieved; every man would let the woman submit herself to him by herself. Yes God expects the woman to do it on her own but that is not what the op is doing. God did not put her in authority to decide if she submits like the op really means; God told them to submit. The apostles gave biblical reasons for male authority. They cited creation; so did Jesus. "From the beginning it was not so." Women disregard the Bible even though this topic is repeated over and over in the Bible. Why are the twelve apostles all men? God is male.
From Wikipedia:
Deborah (Hebrew:דְבוֹרָה, Modern Dvora Tiberian Dəḇôrā; "Bee", Arabic:دبورة Daborah) was a prophetess of the God of the Israelites, the fourth Judgeof pre-monarchic Israel, counselor, warrior, and the wife of Lapidothaccording to the Book of Judges chapters 4 and 5.
The only femalejudge mentioned in the Bible, Deborah led a successful counterattackagainst the forces of Jabinking of Canaanand his military commander Sisera, the narrative is recounted in chapter 4.
Judges chapter5 gives the same story in poetic form. This passage, often called The Song of Deborah,may date to as early as the 12th century BC[SUP][1][/SUP] and isperhaps the earliest sample of Hebrewpoetry. It is also significant because it is one of the oldest passagesthat portrays fighting women, the accountbeing that of Jael,the wife of Heber, a Kenite tent maker.Jael killed Sisera by driving a tent peg through his templeas he slept. Both Deborah and Jael are portrayed as strong independent women.The poem may have been included in the Book of the Wars of the Lordmentioned in Numbers 21:14.
In Hebrew, hername, דְּבוֹרָה, translates as bee. The Deborah number, a dimensionless number used in rheology, isnamed after he
From Chabad.org
The fourth of the judges who ruled over the Jewish people after the death ofJoshua, was not a man, but a woman, one of themost famous of all times, the Prophetess Deborah.Before her were Othniel, Ehud and Shamgar, thelatter only for a short time.
After Ehud's death the Jews forsook the ways of the Torah and adopted many of the idols of the peopleabout them. As a consequence G-d delivered theminto the hands of the King of Canaan, Jabin,whose royal residence was the city of Hazor. His cruel general Sisera oppressed the Jews for twenty years. Siserapossessed a well-trained army of cavalry. He also bad iron chariots that werethe "tanks" of those days. The Jews suffered terribly under the cruelrule of Sisera, and in great despair cried unto G-d.
It was then that G-d sent them Deborah the Prophetess. She was one of theseven women prophetesses whose prophecies are recorded in the Bible.
Deborah lived in the Mountains of Ephraim,between Ramah and Beth-El. In the midst of the sin and idolatry, Deborahremained true to G-d and His Torah. She was wise and G-d fearing, and thepeople flocked to her for advice and help. Deborah held court beneath apalm-tree, in the open air. There, where everyone could hear her, she warnedthe Jewish people and urged them to leave their evil ways and return to G-d.The entire Jewish nation respected this great prophetess.
Deborah was the wife of a man whose name was Lapidoth, which means"torches." Our sages tell us, that at the advice of his wife hefurnished large wicks and oil for the lights of the sanctuary of Shiloh, whichburned like torches. Thus, our Sages say, was the effect of this holy woman oneveryone around her: spreading the light of Torah. Similarly our Sages explainthat she sat under a palm-tree to show to the world that the Jewish people wasall united and turning their eyes again to G-d, like the leaves of the palmturn upward together, towards heaven.
It was fortunate that Deborah had such a tremendous influence. For even thestrongest and noblest of the men of those days had given up hope of turning thetide against the Canaanites' oppression and idolatry.
When Deborah felt that she had helped the people to return to G-d, she sentfor Barak, the son of Abinoam. Some say he washer husband, and that "Barak," meaning lighting, was another name for"Lapidoth." At any rate, Barak was the most influential man in Israel then, and Deborah asked him to raise an armyof ten thousand troops from the tribes of Naphtaliand Zebulun, and gather them at the foot ofmount Tabor, in the Plains of Esdrealon. With this army he was to attack theCanaanite oppressors.
Barak refused to undertake this task by himself, knowing well that only thehelp of G-d and the inspiration of the prophetess Deborah could succeed in thehopeless odds against the iron chariots and cavalry of Sisera. Deborah agreedto accompany him, but she warned him that although he would gain victory, theglory would not be his, but a woman's.
Sisera learned of Barak's approach and led his huge army against the Jews.Naturally, the well-trained and armored Canaanite troops had no difficulty atfirst. They quickly gained the upper hand. But suddenly G-d threw confusioninto their ranks. Rains turned the battlefield into mud, and the chariots werestuck. Terrified by the sudden turn of events, the mighty warriors of Siserafled in all directions. The overjoyed Jewish troops pursued them to the veryhometown of Sisera, Charosheth, and not a single soldier of the Canaanitesescaped.
When Sisera realized his defeat, he quickly descended from his chariot andfled on foot. Seeking a place to hide, he chanced upon the tent of Heber theKenite, who was a descendant of Jethro, thefather-in-law of Moses. Heber had been on goodterms with Jabin, the king of Hazor, the ruler of the Canaanites, and Siserawas only too happy to accept the invitation of Jael,Heber's wife, to bide him in the house until the Jewish army would have passed.
Jael gave him food and drink and, exhausted from the battle, Sisera soonfell into a heavy slumber. Seeing this, the brave Jael decided to make Siserapay for all the cruelties he had committed against the Jewish people.Cautiously approaching the sleeping warrior, she drove a long nail, a tent-pin,through his temple, thus putting an end to the hated oppressor. In the meantimeBarak had arrived at the house of Heber, in hot pursuit of Sisera. Jael cameout to meet him and greeted him with these words: "Come, and I will showthee the man whom thou seekest." She then led Barak into the tent, andthere lay the cruel general, dead.
Thus Deborah's predictions came true: the highest glory of the victorybelonged to a woman, not to Barak, and Deborah herself glorified the brave Jaelin the immortal "Song of Deborah."
The famous Song of Deborah is in many ways similar to the Song of Moses,which he and Israel sang after the miracle at the Red Sea. The extraordinarybeauty and charm of her poem make it next to the "Shiroh" (Song) ofMoses, the greatest of all poetic songs of gratitude to G-d, in our sacredliterature.
Deborah begins by praising the men in Israel who consecrated themselves tothe war of liberation:
Deborah (Hebrew:דְבוֹרָה, Modern Dvora Tiberian Dəḇôrā; "Bee", Arabic:دبورة Daborah) was a prophetess of the God of the Israelites, the fourth Judgeof pre-monarchic Israel, counselor, warrior, and the wife of Lapidothaccording to the Book of Judges chapters 4 and 5.
The only femalejudge mentioned in the Bible, Deborah led a successful counterattackagainst the forces of Jabinking of Canaanand his military commander Sisera, the narrative is recounted in chapter 4.
Judges chapter5 gives the same story in poetic form. This passage, often called The Song of Deborah,may date to as early as the 12th century BC[SUP][1][/SUP] and isperhaps the earliest sample of Hebrewpoetry. It is also significant because it is one of the oldest passagesthat portrays fighting women, the accountbeing that of Jael,the wife of Heber, a Kenite tent maker.Jael killed Sisera by driving a tent peg through his templeas he slept. Both Deborah and Jael are portrayed as strong independent women.The poem may have been included in the Book of the Wars of the Lordmentioned in Numbers 21:14.
In Hebrew, hername, דְּבוֹרָה, translates as bee. The Deborah number, a dimensionless number used in rheology, isnamed after he
From Chabad.org
The fourth of the judges who ruled over the Jewish people after the death ofJoshua, was not a man, but a woman, one of themost famous of all times, the Prophetess Deborah.Before her were Othniel, Ehud and Shamgar, thelatter only for a short time.
After Ehud's death the Jews forsook the ways of the Torah and adopted many of the idols of the peopleabout them. As a consequence G-d delivered theminto the hands of the King of Canaan, Jabin,whose royal residence was the city of Hazor. His cruel general Sisera oppressed the Jews for twenty years. Siserapossessed a well-trained army of cavalry. He also bad iron chariots that werethe "tanks" of those days. The Jews suffered terribly under the cruelrule of Sisera, and in great despair cried unto G-d.
It was then that G-d sent them Deborah the Prophetess. She was one of theseven women prophetesses whose prophecies are recorded in the Bible.
Deborah lived in the Mountains of Ephraim,between Ramah and Beth-El. In the midst of the sin and idolatry, Deborahremained true to G-d and His Torah. She was wise and G-d fearing, and thepeople flocked to her for advice and help. Deborah held court beneath apalm-tree, in the open air. There, where everyone could hear her, she warnedthe Jewish people and urged them to leave their evil ways and return to G-d.The entire Jewish nation respected this great prophetess.
Deborah was the wife of a man whose name was Lapidoth, which means"torches." Our sages tell us, that at the advice of his wife hefurnished large wicks and oil for the lights of the sanctuary of Shiloh, whichburned like torches. Thus, our Sages say, was the effect of this holy woman oneveryone around her: spreading the light of Torah. Similarly our Sages explainthat she sat under a palm-tree to show to the world that the Jewish people wasall united and turning their eyes again to G-d, like the leaves of the palmturn upward together, towards heaven.
It was fortunate that Deborah had such a tremendous influence. For even thestrongest and noblest of the men of those days had given up hope of turning thetide against the Canaanites' oppression and idolatry.
When Deborah felt that she had helped the people to return to G-d, she sentfor Barak, the son of Abinoam. Some say he washer husband, and that "Barak," meaning lighting, was another name for"Lapidoth." At any rate, Barak was the most influential man in Israel then, and Deborah asked him to raise an armyof ten thousand troops from the tribes of Naphtaliand Zebulun, and gather them at the foot ofmount Tabor, in the Plains of Esdrealon. With this army he was to attack theCanaanite oppressors.
Barak refused to undertake this task by himself, knowing well that only thehelp of G-d and the inspiration of the prophetess Deborah could succeed in thehopeless odds against the iron chariots and cavalry of Sisera. Deborah agreedto accompany him, but she warned him that although he would gain victory, theglory would not be his, but a woman's.
Sisera learned of Barak's approach and led his huge army against the Jews.Naturally, the well-trained and armored Canaanite troops had no difficulty atfirst. They quickly gained the upper hand. But suddenly G-d threw confusioninto their ranks. Rains turned the battlefield into mud, and the chariots werestuck. Terrified by the sudden turn of events, the mighty warriors of Siserafled in all directions. The overjoyed Jewish troops pursued them to the veryhometown of Sisera, Charosheth, and not a single soldier of the Canaanitesescaped.
When Sisera realized his defeat, he quickly descended from his chariot andfled on foot. Seeking a place to hide, he chanced upon the tent of Heber theKenite, who was a descendant of Jethro, thefather-in-law of Moses. Heber had been on goodterms with Jabin, the king of Hazor, the ruler of the Canaanites, and Siserawas only too happy to accept the invitation of Jael,Heber's wife, to bide him in the house until the Jewish army would have passed.
Jael gave him food and drink and, exhausted from the battle, Sisera soonfell into a heavy slumber. Seeing this, the brave Jael decided to make Siserapay for all the cruelties he had committed against the Jewish people.Cautiously approaching the sleeping warrior, she drove a long nail, a tent-pin,through his temple, thus putting an end to the hated oppressor. In the meantimeBarak had arrived at the house of Heber, in hot pursuit of Sisera. Jael cameout to meet him and greeted him with these words: "Come, and I will showthee the man whom thou seekest." She then led Barak into the tent, andthere lay the cruel general, dead.
Thus Deborah's predictions came true: the highest glory of the victorybelonged to a woman, not to Barak, and Deborah herself glorified the brave Jaelin the immortal "Song of Deborah."
The famous Song of Deborah is in many ways similar to the Song of Moses,which he and Israel sang after the miracle at the Red Sea. The extraordinarybeauty and charm of her poem make it next to the "Shiroh" (Song) ofMoses, the greatest of all poetic songs of gratitude to G-d, in our sacredliterature.
Deborah begins by praising the men in Israel who consecrated themselves tothe war of liberation:
King James Version: 1[SUP]st[/SUP]Corinthians 11:16) But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God
John 4:1) When therefore the LORD knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 .) (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
3 .) He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.
4 .) And he must needs go through Samaria.
5 .) Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 .) Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 .) There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 .) (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 .) Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 .) Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 .) Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 .) Jesus answeredand said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 .) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
15 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
16 .) Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
17 .) The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:
18 .) For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that sadist thou truly.
19 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20 .) Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 .) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 .) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 .) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 .) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25 .) The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 .) Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
27 .) And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
28 .) The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men,
29 .) Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?
30 .) Then they went out of the city, and came unto him.
31 .) In the meanwhile his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.
32 .) But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
33 .) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?
34 .) Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
35 .) Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
36 .) And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
37 .) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.
38 .) I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.
39 .) And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.
40 .) So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.
41 .) And many more believed because of his own word;
42 .) And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
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The lower city was the location of the Temple of Apollo while the Acrocorinth was dominated by the Temple of Aphrodite. Greek writers in the 5th-4th centuries BC characterized Corinth as a city of commercialized love and a "Corinthian girl" meant a prostitute. The Corinthian church of Paul's day struggled with worldliness and sexual sin, both of which were typical of this cosmopolitan city. The temple originally had 38 columns of the Doric order; 7 are standing today.
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Bema
Paulspent 18 months in the city before the Jews of the city charged him withbreaking the law and brought him before Gallio at the city's place of judgment(bema). The mention of Gallio provides an anchor for New Testament chronologyas we know from Roman sources that Gallio was proconsul of Achaia from June 51to May 52. Standing on this platform, the proconsul dismissed the chargesagainst Paul as a dispute of Jewish law and not of a criminal nature.
Agora
InCorinth Paul met Aquila and Priscilla, Jews recently expelled by EmperorClaudius from Rome. The three of these were tentmakers (or leather workers) andmay have had their place of business in the city's commercial marketplace(agora). This would have afforded Paul numerous occasions to speak withcustomers and passers-by of the resurrection of Christ. Acts notes that Paulspent each Shabbat trying to persuade Jews and Greeks
ACTS18:24) And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquentman, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 .) This man wasinstructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spakeand taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
26 .) And he began tospeak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, theytook him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
27 .) And when he wasdisposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples toreceive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed throughgrace:
28 .) For he mightilyconvinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesuswas Christ.
John 4:1) When therefore the LORD knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 .) (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
3 .) He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.
4 .) And he must needs go through Samaria.
5 .) Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 .) Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 .) There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 .) (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 .) Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 .) Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 .) Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 .) Jesus answeredand said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 .) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
15 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
16 .) Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
17 .) The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:
18 .) For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that sadist thou truly.
19 .) The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20 .) Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 .) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 .) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 .) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 .) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25 .) The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 .) Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
27 .) And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
28 .) The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men,
29 .) Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?
30 .) Then they went out of the city, and came unto him.
31 .) In the meanwhile his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.
32 .) But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
33 .) Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?
34 .) Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
35 .) Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
36 .) And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
37 .) And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.
38 .) I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.
39 .) And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.
40 .) So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.
41 .) And many more believed because of his own word;
42 .) And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
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The lower city was the location of the Temple of Apollo while the Acrocorinth was dominated by the Temple of Aphrodite. Greek writers in the 5th-4th centuries BC characterized Corinth as a city of commercialized love and a "Corinthian girl" meant a prostitute. The Corinthian church of Paul's day struggled with worldliness and sexual sin, both of which were typical of this cosmopolitan city. The temple originally had 38 columns of the Doric order; 7 are standing today.
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Bema
Paulspent 18 months in the city before the Jews of the city charged him withbreaking the law and brought him before Gallio at the city's place of judgment(bema). The mention of Gallio provides an anchor for New Testament chronologyas we know from Roman sources that Gallio was proconsul of Achaia from June 51to May 52. Standing on this platform, the proconsul dismissed the chargesagainst Paul as a dispute of Jewish law and not of a criminal nature.
Agora
InCorinth Paul met Aquila and Priscilla, Jews recently expelled by EmperorClaudius from Rome. The three of these were tentmakers (or leather workers) andmay have had their place of business in the city's commercial marketplace(agora). This would have afforded Paul numerous occasions to speak withcustomers and passers-by of the resurrection of Christ. Acts notes that Paulspent each Shabbat trying to persuade Jews and Greeks
ACTS18:24) And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquentman, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 .) This man wasinstructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spakeand taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
26 .) And he began tospeak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, theytook him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
27 .) And when he wasdisposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples toreceive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed throughgrace:
28 .) For he mightilyconvinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesuswas Christ.
Spend some time studying and I think you will come to see what role, and what authority Deborah exercised......."sitting in judgment" isn't exactly the same as "cooking dinner for." But, now, that may just be me............and lest we forget, The greatest warrior of the Jews would NOT go into battle (even though God told him too) UNLESS Deborah went with him.......
In that battle, there are two that are considered heroic........and both were women......know who the other was?
In that battle, there are two that are considered heroic........and both were women......know who the other was?
Note God always made Adam the head even though Eve was at his side to help him .
Why did God went to Adam first and not Eve when they sinned ? hmmmmm
Both Adam and Eve was a king and queen in ther own rights, at the time the earthwas their kingdom
Ephesians 5
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
I am not saying a man should not treat a woman with respect . But that in the beginig Adam was the head of the house hence God went to him first. God would have known it was eve that was decieved .
All i am saying is as believers we are Jesus ( husband) help meet ( wife ) yet still Jesus is the head and greater so to is the husband and wife relationship.
Note Adam and Eve became Husband and wife when God presented her to him thus the first marriage
This is just my two cents
Why did God went to Adam first and not Eve when they sinned ? hmmmmm
Both Adam and Eve was a king and queen in ther own rights, at the time the earthwas their kingdom
Ephesians 5
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish
33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
I am not saying a man should not treat a woman with respect . But that in the beginig Adam was the head of the house hence God went to him first. God would have known it was eve that was decieved .
All i am saying is as believers we are Jesus ( husband) help meet ( wife ) yet still Jesus is the head and greater so to is the husband and wife relationship.
Note Adam and Eve became Husband and wife when God presented her to him thus the first marriage
This is just my two cents
M
Feminists and feminist bible versions always try to make Deborah out as a warrior queen that led the armies of Israel to victory in battle (e.g. saying she "led" Israel, instead of "judged" Israel). She didn't even lead the armies of Israel when Barak was fearful - Barak still did that, on God's orders, but Deborah submitted to his request that she come with him.
Like other false teachings, feminism is a fairly easy one to refute, but its supporters won't accept this, because they are not arguing from scripture. They are arguing from their own fleshly desires.
Like other false teachings, feminism is a fairly easy one to refute, but its supporters won't accept this, because they are not arguing from scripture. They are arguing from their own fleshly desires.
A
He said to Eve her pains will increase in childbirth ...that one is pretty obvious Abiding ...the reason being, from my own experience, that when you are facing such an ordeal and the threat of death you have nowhere else to turn to...God. He did that to SAVE a woman so she would seek Him. And for the other part she would cling to her husband...God knew what a deep in depth person a woman is, she is RELATIONAL more than men are (thats why they are such gossips) and now that se will cleave to her hubby, who is not so chatty and relational she will have to search for something deeper...thats Right....Jesus
only God can fill her physical, emotional, relational, and spiritual needs.....and some of the chatty also
Thank you p_rehbein.
For the rest of you, how does it hurt you if a woman is exalted? Are you only worthy of honor if your sister or wife or mother or daughter is debased? Is your masculinity so frail that the success of a woman would topple it?
As a woman, I rejoice when my brother is exalted; why can't he do the same for me?
Deborah, Mary, and the unnamed woman of Proverbs 31 brought honor to their husbands through their own success. We are to encourage each other to good works, not be threatened by them. Only small men feel threatened by a woman's achievements.
For the rest of you, how does it hurt you if a woman is exalted? Are you only worthy of honor if your sister or wife or mother or daughter is debased? Is your masculinity so frail that the success of a woman would topple it?
As a woman, I rejoice when my brother is exalted; why can't he do the same for me?
Deborah, Mary, and the unnamed woman of Proverbs 31 brought honor to their husbands through their own success. We are to encourage each other to good works, not be threatened by them. Only small men feel threatened by a woman's achievements.
The truth is that many God fearing men rejoice and appreciate the accomplishments and contributions of women. I've heard several male teachers teach about Deborah (and other Biblical women too) and her contribution to the people of Israel. Therefore, not all men need to debase and devalue the contributions of Godly women in order to feel good about themselves. Thank God for that!
Tearing others down in order to feel good about one's own self isn't a gender problem. It's a heart issue (low self esteem) and it afflicts too many men and women. Our self esteem must be rooted and grounded in Christ alone, and once we've developed and discovered who we are in Christ, we can't allow any person or thing to separate us from that knowledge.
Tearing others down in order to feel good about one's own self isn't a gender problem. It's a heart issue (low self esteem) and it afflicts too many men and women. Our self esteem must be rooted and grounded in Christ alone, and once we've developed and discovered who we are in Christ, we can't allow any person or thing to separate us from that knowledge.
Just look how well God laid out the PERFECT HOUSEHOLD...
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. (sometimes some women think this is WORDS not WORKS)
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (ifwoman today do not this, they are being deceived AGAIN AND THAT IS TRANSGRESSION, and SIN.)
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I have seen what happens when satan keeps the dreams and will of the woman OUTSIDE this parameter.... There CANNOT be Godly peace in that home...
Show me a home where a waman wears the pants, and the will of God is done in that home, just ONE! But the fact that the woman asuro authirity ober the man (the very fact she wears the pants) is aready ungodly. So there, that is how easy it is to PROOF God's will is not done in that home....
Same as in a Church... the fact that there is a woman speaking, AND GETTING AWAY with it in church, shown God's will is not dome there, and the Holy Spirit in NOT THERE... Where God's will is being transgreesed, God is NOT THERE... God calls it darkness... Only UNGODLY THINGS ARE DONE IN DARKNESS.... What communion has the light with darkeness? NONE! the answer is NONE.... So transgress all you like and believe you walk in the light,,,, You are only fooling yourselves.... THERE IS NO LIGHT IN DARKNESS, and NO DARKNESS IN LIGHT..... There is NO SIN IN GOD, AND NO GOD IN SIN...It is Black or white, NOTHING IN BETWEEN... THere is only TWO ways.... One is God the other is Satan.... You either do God's will 100% or Satan's will 100%. Your are either perfect, or imperfect. You either have the Spirit, Holy Spirit of God in you, or a sinning spirit from Satan.
You have the perfect SEED of God in you, or the SINNING SEED OF SATAN.... You have BORN OF GOD AND CANNOT SIN, or you do not have the BORN OF GOD AND SIN. Please people if you strive to be saved, then you STRIVE TO BE SAVED. If God SAVED you, you are SAVED... And there is not ONE PERSON GOD SAVED that is not PERFECT! Salsation by God, IS PERFECT!
There is NO other answer.... A lot of people will come and say... Was Peter perfect, was Pul perfect.... And they will lay sin on them without GOD LAYING SIN ON THEM IN THE WORD... It is only their lack of knowledge that has their minds corrupted... These Bible twisters will adnit themselves to be sinners, then they judge the HOLY SPOSTLES OF GOD TO BE SINNERS... WOW!
But God did not say I will be RECREATED in the image of Peter or Paul, no He said I will be in the FULNESS and MEASURE OF CHRIST.... Christ Jesus is the HOLY SPIRIT... TO the same SPIRIT/HEART/GLORY/PERFECTION as the Son of GOD HIMSELF...
Now that is PERFECT!
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. (sometimes some women think this is WORDS not WORKS)
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (ifwoman today do not this, they are being deceived AGAIN AND THAT IS TRANSGRESSION, and SIN.)
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I have seen what happens when satan keeps the dreams and will of the woman OUTSIDE this parameter.... There CANNOT be Godly peace in that home...
Show me a home where a waman wears the pants, and the will of God is done in that home, just ONE! But the fact that the woman asuro authirity ober the man (the very fact she wears the pants) is aready ungodly. So there, that is how easy it is to PROOF God's will is not done in that home....
Same as in a Church... the fact that there is a woman speaking, AND GETTING AWAY with it in church, shown God's will is not dome there, and the Holy Spirit in NOT THERE... Where God's will is being transgreesed, God is NOT THERE... God calls it darkness... Only UNGODLY THINGS ARE DONE IN DARKNESS.... What communion has the light with darkeness? NONE! the answer is NONE.... So transgress all you like and believe you walk in the light,,,, You are only fooling yourselves.... THERE IS NO LIGHT IN DARKNESS, and NO DARKNESS IN LIGHT..... There is NO SIN IN GOD, AND NO GOD IN SIN...It is Black or white, NOTHING IN BETWEEN... THere is only TWO ways.... One is God the other is Satan.... You either do God's will 100% or Satan's will 100%. Your are either perfect, or imperfect. You either have the Spirit, Holy Spirit of God in you, or a sinning spirit from Satan.
You have the perfect SEED of God in you, or the SINNING SEED OF SATAN.... You have BORN OF GOD AND CANNOT SIN, or you do not have the BORN OF GOD AND SIN. Please people if you strive to be saved, then you STRIVE TO BE SAVED. If God SAVED you, you are SAVED... And there is not ONE PERSON GOD SAVED that is not PERFECT! Salsation by God, IS PERFECT!
There is NO other answer.... A lot of people will come and say... Was Peter perfect, was Pul perfect.... And they will lay sin on them without GOD LAYING SIN ON THEM IN THE WORD... It is only their lack of knowledge that has their minds corrupted... These Bible twisters will adnit themselves to be sinners, then they judge the HOLY SPOSTLES OF GOD TO BE SINNERS... WOW!
But God did not say I will be RECREATED in the image of Peter or Paul, no He said I will be in the FULNESS and MEASURE OF CHRIST.... Christ Jesus is the HOLY SPIRIT... TO the same SPIRIT/HEART/GLORY/PERFECTION as the Son of GOD HIMSELF...
Now that is PERFECT!
Cobus, I am so glad I've found someone who is qualified to say something like that! I've wondered which gender had a tougher row to hoe, but determined that I couldn't say for sure. Because I hadn't been every person who had ever lived, and had never known what it was like to be the other gender. I'm so glad, however, that you apparently have! How exciting.
I've wondered which gender had a tougher row to hoe, but determined that I couldn't say for sure. Because I hadn't been every person who had ever lived, and had never known what it was like to be the other gender. I'm so glad, however, that you apparently have! How exciting.
M
I'm not sure if you understand what Christians are saying. It's not that women can't be exalted, and Deborah, or any wife or sister or mother or daughter who brings honour to her husband like the woman in Proverbs 31 is certainly worthy of honour. What Christians are saying, is that this honour cannot come about by disobeying God (e.g. a woman who rules over her husband, or other men - her "desire" to do this being as described in Genesis). Deborah was certainly an honourable woman, as were all the judges of Israel honourable. However, her role as judge and the honour due her position does not make her a leader of men.
Men are not threatened by the achievements of women. Indeed, I believe the greatest and most honourable achievement a woman can aspire to is the success of her husband, and the care of her family. No man would feel threatened by such support and achievement.
Men are not threatened by the achievements of women. Indeed, I believe the greatest and most honourable achievement a woman can aspire to is the success of her husband, and the care of her family. No man would feel threatened by such support and achievement.
This is the post where I mention Jesus died for His bride and rose again. Do not tune me out men. We are servant leaders. Jesus still called the shots but he did the most service. My real advice is to love your wife even when she rebels. Love hopes all things. Hope and pray for her. Interceed for her. Do not always obey her when she is bossy but grace can do it sometimes even though she is wrong. Give her love when she hates you. Give her mercy instead of justice. Give her favour without a reason. Protect her. Support her. Be like you want Jesus to be to you.