What Laws are still valid to christians

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Welshman

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Meaning? What? Spiritually dead is not able to grasp the concept to the moral of a story or unable to perceive the Heavenly Realm.?what does this mean? Spiritually dead unable to grasp? This is ridiculous statement in itself ?
 
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Meaning? What? Spiritually dead is not able to grasp the concept to the moral of a story or unable to perceive the Heavenly Realm.?what does this mean? Spiritually dead unable to grasp? This is ridiculous statement in itself ?
I guess you think that Jesus was referring to the bread, since it is of the physical nature which you only understand. But if the spirit is in you, you would of understand what Jesus was speaking about.

John 3:12
I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

Colossians 3:2
Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
 
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Welshman

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Il ask you again what are you talking about? The concept of the question is nonsense then you want me to answer a nonsensical question ? Your not making sense? Jesus and what bread are you referring too? Bread referring to physical nature? What on earth are you talking about? Thank The Lord I'm not into complicating him anymore than the simplistic way I'm asked to follow? I've no idea what your talking about but dnt burden me with it?, whatever it is your following? But if your truly following Christ I'm in a heap full of trouble? But I'd take my chances with the Christ who rescued me a certain day cos 23 yr later he exactly the same he has changed not one iota?
 

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All mankind is born dead? What bull is this? Born dead? How are we alive then ? Ah spiritual life I hear you say? More bull? We only have a portion of spirit here and now if we were spiritually dead how come we hear Christ in the spirit today? Jesus had yahwehs spirit on him? No he never? Jesus is his own personage in spirit all things unseen were made by him? He dnt need the fathers spirit on him he and the father are one ( family) but two persons? You seem to suggest Jesus is not all he claims he is? That's upto you bt its defo not for me Jesus is more than man can fathom
You reveal a lot of ignorance regarding rebirth here, both the reason/need for it, and the effect of it.

Likewise, your words about no love in posts here are ringing in my ears.
 
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Welshman

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Follow the law if that's your thing it matters not to me il stay were he put me? I'm sure he put me were I am 100% sure and I ain't in competition with you wateva you believe you believe? But il never believe your way to Christ is through the law? You annul all christs redemptive purpose by again tryin to attain holiness by knowledge off and obedience to law? Tell me this friend? In the bible find this verse no man can come to the father bt by perfect obedience and knowledge of the law, context, application , interpretation ? Tell me were it is? No other verse that sounds like it or says summit like it? Tell me were it is? But Jesus speaks plainly about any man who gets to know the father ? Is through HIM? No ifs no buts no maybe no could be? Just through him? I dnt care if your a chief rabbi? Or simple follower but il tell you this for free, any striving towards obtaining favour and grace is futile? Both have bn given to us til he closes this age those who know this are daily dying to sin via Jesus inside thier bodies n minds the work is his the rewards are for us? As for you friend the Torah the Talmud the books of the prophets or watever your studying good luck with it
 

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Meaning? What? Spiritually dead is not able to grasp the concept to the moral of a story or unable to perceive the Heavenly Realm.?what does this mean? Spiritually dead unable to grasp? This is ridiculous statement in itself ?
More ringing in my ears. . .
 

Elin

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Il ask you again what are you talking about? The concept of the question is nonsense then you want me to answer a nonsensical question ? Your not making sense? Jesus and what bread are you referring too? Bread referring to physical nature? What on earth are you talking about?
Nothing but that ever-so-simple NT. . .
 
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Welshman

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The audacity ? I show ignorance of rebirth? How do you know this fact about me friend? How? What you know , you alone know? No other man knows another's thoughts? You presume much you dissect issues you must have last word , your never contrite to accept a point you divert context /selection/ I'm not into games your many posts show you a law follower the law is the be all and end all above all things this is your focus yet mine is on the lawmaker himself and how he instructs us to follow the law through grace no compunction or compulsion ? Yet you think this is a licence for iniquity and we can do as we please? Jesus lives in human bodies today we've moved on from the book see?
 

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The audacity ? I show ignorance of rebirth? How do you know this fact about me friend? How? What you know , you alone know?
Actually, all who know the NT and who read yours in the following know:

All mankind is born dead? What bull is this? Born dead? How are we alive then ? Ah spiritual life I hear you say? More bull? We only have a portion of spirit here and now if we were spiritually dead how come we hear Christ in the spirit today?
 
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The New Testament ain't about bread in any shape or form its about life? His life people of the days lives our lives were we are ? Metaphorically speaking or literally speaking what is the point your trying make me see about bread? Also spiritually dead cnt grasp concepts? What does this mean? Wat relevance to Jesus and me is it? Third time I've asked bt no meaningful answer just criticism ? I want to know what these statements mean? Before we move on to anything else? You tell me
 
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Welshman

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Know what? What do all New Testament believers know?
 

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The New Testament ain't about bread in any shape or form its about life? His life people of the days lives our lives were we are ? Metaphorically speaking or literally speaking what is the point your trying make me see about bread? Also spiritually dead cnt grasp concepts? What does this mean? Wat relevance to Jesus and me is it? Third time I've asked bt no meaningful answer just criticism ? I want to know what these statements mean? Before we move on to anything else? You tell me
Unbelievable. . .
 
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Welshman

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I'm awaiting answer to post #3445 please do tell
 
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Welshman

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Unbelievable? Is it? We're are your answers ? I'm waiting for one frm five posts ago you can type quik reply to last post why not answer what I've asked? Il tell you why , cos you cnt? That verse ain't in gods bible is it? Jeremiah not a prophet Jesus in Mathew makes it clear he is not accepting all old books of Old Testament as valid picking and choosing tho rev 22 v 18 dnt apply to the Jews does it not? This be my last post make sure you get a reply in soon as you'll soon be on my ignore list il not let my mouth sin to debate with what I deem as misguided stiffnecked people who would have me bound in all sorts chains if I was to accept your views and ways bt be boring place if we was all the same I guess? Best luck trying get heaven if that's were you believe your goin ? Who are my to say who will find rest in his presence I just know the way I'm shown good luck with it...
 
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Welshman

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When everyone reads these posts tomorrow they too will notice no answers forthcoming from you just dribble ? Sarcasm ? My heritage? You know what my heritage is too? How did you know so much about me ? Fool look at what your saying? But its in you isn't it niggling away at you ? You've no answers so divert ? Predictable as you've evidently shown through the thread? Bye now friend.. We shan't talk again
 
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Il ask you again what are you talking about? The concept of the question is nonsense then you want me to answer a nonsensical question ? Your not making sense? Jesus and what bread are you referring too? Bread referring to physical nature? What on earth are you talking about? Thank The Lord I'm not into complicating him anymore than the simplistic way I'm asked to follow? I've no idea what your talking about but dnt burden me with it?, whatever it is your following? But if your truly following Christ I'm in a heap full of trouble? But I'd take my chances with the Christ who rescued me a certain day cos 23 yr later he exactly the same he has changed not one iota?
The stars on the American flag represent each state eventhough they doesn't look like the states that they represent. The statue of liberty represent liberty, but it doesn't look like liberty, but it has a symbolic meaning, like a spiritual meaning. If a man give a woman a rose which the rose represent love. It doesn't look like love, but it is a spiritual meaning behind this symbolic gesture.

Matt 16:2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ 3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.
 
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Exoaria

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We don't need to have this conversation.
Believe in the Lord Jesus and love your neighbour.

That's really it. I don't need to type anything else.
 
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What Law is this ?

Romans 8





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Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.