Christian Women Please Dress More Modestly

[breno785au]

Just because someone instructs you in something, doesn't mean their 'pushing law onto you' as some i have seen would believe

1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
Titus 2:1-6

 

[djness]

The only idea of what a "harlot" looks like is based on our social norm that we've created today. Don't you understand that Adam and Eve were naked? There was never meant to be this sense of shame that we all have, but this is a perfect example of Christians feeling as if the more "righteous" thing to do is to cover up their skin; or do you not know that your righteous acts are like filthy pieces of cloth?

Isaiah 64:6
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

The woman in this video is approaching Christianity from a moral performance, saying that if you dress more modestly it's going to please God and it's going to express yourself in the light that you are a more righteous and respectful person; or do you not know that to the corrupt mind nothing is pure?

Titus 1:15
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

Do you not know that the only thing you have on your side is faith?

Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

I see these videos and it just screams a moral agenda. You do not need to convince a woman who is dressing provocatively to not dress the way that she is dressing, as all your are doing is imposing your "righteous" understanding onto them and giving them a law mentality that if they do something they will have a better standing in their "Christian walk" and I think it is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't care how another girl dresses because I am not going to look at her in that way. Christ has purified me, because of him I can see girls for their real beauty and not be absolutely caught up in thinking of them in some fallen reality. The woman in this video is coming from the corrupted mindset, assuming that men are going to defile their purity based on a dress sense that society has created as socially acceptable. I can tell you that to the corrupted, nothing is pure. Not even your most modest clothes, even those are corrupt to the impure. Your "righteous clothes" and "modest apparel" in order to please God are like filthy rags. You're stuck in a paradox because you're assessing things from a fallen reality.

Stop focusing on all the do's and don'ts and start focusing on Jesus. Let God put His laws in your mind and your heart, then see how you want to dress. Don't listen to some woman preaching her own "good, sound and holy" opinions on what is and isn't acceptable. That's not spiritual, because we're unspiritual beings. It's only by the Spirit that we live by faith.

Harlot - Definition and Meaning, Bible Dictionary

The word harlot is thousands of years old. Why do you think we have the saying ''The Worlds Oldest Profession''?
It's not modern ,it's well established.

""I wish God would stop imposing his moral standards on humanity"" said no Christian ever.

 

[ServantStrike]

My body parts will not asphyxiate if they are not covered, neither will yours. They will not lose blood flow and turn gangrenous and fall off {unless I wear skinny jeans} and neither will yours.

Also it's one of those laugh and cry laugh and cry hilarious situations to me that a young man is telling women feel free to wear less and with so many verses to back it up...

2 Timothy 3:6

New International Version (NIV)

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,

Ironically, I came across this picture when trying to find young people dressing appropriately.

I wonder if they have older sisters in their mid to late 20's, or early 30's. They seem to understand looking good doesn't mean being floozies. Somebody older in Christ taught them right. Now I need to find that someone...

Poultry and modest dress. It's a very winning combination.

 

[ChristianUk13]

Out of my rather balanced post, the most trivial 'don't dress like a movie star' was cited; in short, how pathetic! Ok let's go to the other extreme. If your eyes cause you to sin, gauge them out as it is better that you have no eyes than for the rest of your body to suffer in hell (http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-29.htm). Try looking into their eyes, not into their bra or down their backside. There is no reasoning to be had..it is just a mindless, religious stream of consciousness no doubt affected by the Christian's politics.

 

[BananaPie]

...I don't have it right, and you sure as hell don't either...

If you admit to not having it right, then what makes you know what God is doing in the lives of others?

Remember, the Lord Jesus said, "go and learn what it means: 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice.' For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" (Matthew 9).

The Lord Jesus is quoting from the Book of Oseas "For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings" (Oseas 6).

 

[Chey60]

I loved how Lisa Bevere put it. She basically said something along the lines of:

So, you want me to tell you that you can dress immodestly? Sure. Go ahead and dress like a whore, if you want to attract a whoremonger.

Yeah. I think that they do it for the attention, primarily, too, and not just to get a guy/girl, but to actually be talked about and cause a stir. That's why Miley does what she does. She wants to shake her good girl/Hannah Montana image and so she's out there letting the media and agents use her and destroy her until she can't be used that way anymore, then she'll be old news. Think about Madonna. How much of a stir did she cause? Now she's a mother and has stated that there are things she won't let her daughter do or wear, things she, herself, was fine with at a younger age.
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Ack speaking of Miley...I used to be a wild child singing in bands along the West coast and in my home town..
I played the Red Lion Inn circuit, Black angus when they still had live bands and some small venues all over that area..
I was wearing whatever I wanted and not caring about who it affected..
let's just say.. I am SOOO glad there wasn't Youtube and Facebook when I was running with the devil!

 

[ServantStrike]

Out of my rather balanced post, the most trivial 'don't dress like a movie star' was cited; in short, how pathetic! Ok let's go to the other extreme. If your eyes cause you to sin, gauge them out as it is better that you have no eyes than for the rest of your body to suffer in hell (http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-29.htm). Try looking into their eyes, not into their bra or down their backside. There is no reasoning to be had..it is just a mindless, religious stream of consciousness no doubt affected by the Christian's politics.

So.. if your breasts cause you to sin, cover them up.. you don't even have to cut them off.

I took your post under complete consideration. It seemed you were implying that we should just let people dress however they want to because the most important thing is that they are there at church.

No one here has advocated any particular style of dress, just cover up so your dress doesn't cause others duress.

I've heard reports of youth pastors finding discarded condoms in empty rooms after youth group meetings. And other reports of children who admit to having sex at church, at bible camp, at the youth group pool party, wherever. I'm sorry, you have to dress so as not to ensnare when you go to church. There are CHILDREN there. Children with hormones.

 

[Fenner]

My church is a medium sized church. I've never seen anyone dressed inappropriately, I guess opinions can vary on that matter. I mean if someone is scantily clad then people would notice. My Mom once told me I shouldn't wear pants to church, this is when I was younger and it was a strict Baptist church. But I wear pants to church. Usually black pants. I have skirts, but I don't wear them often. I have trouble with dress shoes. I can't wear high heels, since I broke my ankle in May. So I'd rather wear something that looks nice with a tiny heel or flats, or even nice sneakers. If someone has a problem with that, then they can pay my Orthopedic dr's bill when I have to go back for another break.

 

[mystdancer50]

In my church, it's more women wearing low-cut shirts and then, when they are reading their Bibles or whatnot, you get an eyeful and this is really horrible because the Pastor is up front and can see everyone...and then he's usually on a stage or platform, so the women don't even have to be leaning over if the shirt is low cut enough. I say, if you can see even a hint of cleavage, you should be wearing a modesty tank under that shirt.

 

[Jullianna]

1 Samuel 15:22 But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams.

If obedience is better than sacrifice and the Lord "delights" in obedience, and dressing modestly is a scriptural instruction (1 Timothy and 1 Peter), how can obeying this scriptural instruction not be pleasing to God directly?

 

[Chey60]

My pastor fixes that problem He makes them turn the thermostat so low we are all freezing and bringing blankets or jackets or at least wearing lots of clothing lol
he is so smart This is a man who won't look at a woman he doesn't know..it took him 2 years to even speak to me.. or look my way when he does lol
I guess he knows I am harmless

 

[ServantStrike]

In my church, it's more women wearing low-cut shirts and then, when they are reading their Bibles or whatnot, you get an eyeful and this is really horrible because the Pastor is up front and can see everyone...and then he's usually on a stage or platform, so the women don't even have to be leaning over if the shirt is low cut enough. I say, if you can see even a hint of cleavage, you should be wearing a modesty tank under that shirt.

Modesty tank. Is that like an undershirt with a cool name? I like the concept.


And see, the trouble is, there is going to be a man in the church who is going to think this right here when these women bend over to pick up the bible they dropped:

[video=youtube;y5p4WCSyhnc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5p4WCSyhnc[/video]


Are all men that way, no, some have trained themselves to keep things at eye level, but, I know some who do not. I knew guys in high school who went to youth group for the eye candy, not for Jesus.

 

[Chey60]

1 Samuel 15:22 But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams.

If obedience is better than sacrifice and the Lord "delights" in obedience, and dressing modestly is a scriptural instruction (1 Timothy and 1 Peter), how can obeying this scriptural instruction not be pleasing to God directly?

Hi Julianna not sure if this was meant my way or not?
but I worded that wrong..
what i mean is .. that we should be doing it for both reasons..
to be loving to others in not stumbling others which pleases God indirectly..
what i wear in my own home wouldn't be displeasing to God even if it's not modest.
but it's doing it for the sake of others.. which in turn pleases God

I hope that makes more sense?

hugs!

 

[maxwel]

I think girls should dress much more modestly.

However, when I'm dating a girl, somehow, mysteriously...
I seem to be completely overwhelmed with a contrary opinion.

: )

 

[Jullianna]

Ironically, I came across this picture when trying to find young people dressing appropriately.

I wonder if they have older sisters in their mid to late 20's, or early 30's. They seem to understand looking good doesn't mean being floozies. Somebody older in Christ taught them right. Now I need to find that someone...

Poultry and modest dress. It's a very winning combination.

LOL! Things that make ya go hmmmm...

 

[Jullianna]

Hi Julianna not sure if this was meant my way or not?
but I worded that wrong..
what i mean is .. that we should be doing it for both reasons..
to be loving to others in not stumbling others which pleases God indirectly..
what i wear in my own home wouldn't be displeasing to God even if it's not modest.
but it's doing it for the sake of others.. which in turn pleases God

I hope that makes more sense?

hugs!

Ah..okay That sounds a little better. When I first read it, it seemed like you were trying to say that women who make the personal sacrifice of dressing less provocatively were doing it to gain brownie points.

 

[ChristianUk13]

Children having sex is down to their parents. Smart kids will find somewhere to have sex which won't be on church premises. I heard someone say 'the main difference between animals and humans is that animals don't have self control.' After reading these forums, I can't help but think that Christian men have been portrayed as hormonal animals, who have no concept of self-control. How shallow are they if they have to look over at a woman who is wearing low-cut tops. I am especially shocked, but more so feel sorry, for the wives/ partners that they have to be in the mom position hollering at the ogle-stricken man as though he were a child.. 'Hey, stop looking at her chest, bad, bad, boy. No more videogames; early bedtime for you, with no supper! Come on, let's grow up. Ladies take the video games off the men....'once i became a man i put childish things behind me', said Paul.

 

[Jullianna]

I think girls should dress much more modestly.

However, when I'm dating a girl, somehow, mysteriously...
I seem to be completely overwhelmed with a contrary opinion.

: )

Yeah...that happens a lot. And, to be fair, when they are dating you, they know this and can be tempted to change the way they dress as well.

 

[BananaPie]

...has anyone considered, What do we communicate to others, whether it be by way of 'the cloth,' torn clothes, Walmart clothes, movie star vogue, what gives?

Are we not to "be hidden with Christ in God"? How, exactly, are we communicating "Christ in you, the hope of glory," if we put strange thoughts in others? Remember, dear ones, "as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness..." (Colossians 3).

God's opinion of you is "holy and beloved." Why, then, should we trash ourselves by being weird wearing crazy and tripping like the rest of those in rebellion towards God? ...just saying.

 

[Enow]

The only idea of what a "harlot" looks like is based on our social norm that we've created today. Don't you understand that Adam and Eve were naked? There was never meant to be this sense of shame that we all have, but this is a perfect example of Christians feeling as if the more "righteous" thing to do is to cover up their skin; or do you not know that your righteous acts are like filthy pieces of cloth?

Isaiah 64:6
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.

The woman in this video is approaching Christianity from a moral performance, saying that if you dress more modestly it's going to please God and it's going to express yourself in the light that you are a more righteous and respectful person; or do you not know that to the corrupt mind nothing is pure?

Titus 1:15
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

Do you not know that the only thing you have on your side is faith?

Hebrews 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

I see these videos and it just screams a moral agenda. You do not need to convince a woman who is dressing provocatively to not dress the way that she is dressing, as all your are doing is imposing your "righteous" understanding onto them and giving them a law mentality that if they do something they will have a better standing in their "Christian walk" and I think it is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't care how another girl dresses because I am not going to look at her in that way. Christ has purified me, because of him I can see girls for their real beauty and not be absolutely caught up in thinking of them in some fallen reality. The woman in this video is coming from the corrupted mindset, assuming that men are going to defile their purity based on a dress sense that society has created as socially acceptable. I can tell you that to the corrupted, nothing is pure. Not even your most modest clothes, even those are corrupt to the impure. Your "righteous clothes" and "modest apparel" in order to please God are like filthy rags. You're stuck in a paradox because you're assessing things from a fallen reality.

Stop focusing on all the do's and don'ts and start focusing on Jesus. Let God put His laws in your mind and your heart, then see how you want to dress. Don't listen to some woman preaching her own "good, sound and holy" opinions on what is and isn't acceptable. That's not spiritual, because we're unspiritual beings. It's only by the Spirit that we live by faith.

1 Peter 3:1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; [SUP]2 [/SUP]While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.[SUP]5 [/SUP]For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

2 Corinthias 10:[SUP] [/SUP]Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

1 John 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Proverbs 6:27Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?

Romans 14:[SUP]12 [/SUP]So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.