You're a child of the Devil.

[LT]

We were all children of the flesh (devil). Then we were REBORN children of God.
Do not deny this simple and clear teaching. To deny this is to deny your need for salvation.
You were a sinner.
Then you were saved.
We had to die to self, and be reborn in spirit.
You have a new Father now, by adoption, which is God Himself.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

Do you hear yourself? You insist that your message is universal and everybody needs to hear it, then spend a good 20% of your message telling people how they're going to reject it, hate you, how they make a mockery of things, how they're trying to get you to abandon your faith...

You're fighting an imaginary battle here. You bring it on yourself by making vague accusations against your entire audience, telling us beforehand what unholy things we're going to do with the message, and even implying we're trying to get you to commit apostasy.

Calm down. There are lots of disagreements here, but there are few people here who mean you any sort of harm.

I can tell you that the big bang theory is real. I'll explain it in detail. But, you may not believe me. And I don't plan on you to. When I wrote that, I already knew what was coming. The Lord reveals. And I know that there are so many people just trying to prove a point. I may come off strong, but I'm just sitting here, as calm as I can be. This message I'm trying to bring across to everyone, is who we were. Yes, I used the present tense. But that's because people can still fall back into their old self. I'm just saying that everyone needs to hear this. But they don't have to accept it if they don't want it. I can give you a cookie. Whether you accept it or not, is up to you. God gave us all the freedom of choice, didn't He?
And I said that people were going to reject it, because I know many who have, before I could even say a word. Some people just refuse to listen. And I apologize, for targeting everyone on here. I know you all mean well, and I do too. I sincerely apologize for coming off as rude, and ignorant. That was completely wrong of me. Cause I too can fall back into my flesh. But it's the Lord that guides my path. I can point one finger at you. But, three are pointing back at me. I was telling you this, and I was reminding myself as well of whom my first father was. And I am grateful to God for changing that. Again, I'm sorry and God bless.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

We were all children of the flesh (devil). Then we were REBORN children of God.
Do not deny this simple and clear teaching. To deny this is to deny your need for salvation.
You were a sinner.
Then you were saved.
We had to die to self, and be reborn in spirit.
You have a new Father now, by adoption, which is God Himself.

That's what I'm trying to say. I think that me using present tense missed the point.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

God is a Spirit. We are made in the likeness of Him, meaning our spirit. We are born of God, our spirit. Not our flesh. Our flesh will always sin. Whether it's in our thoughts, purpose, actions, or words. A sin, is a sin no matter how small. But God forgets them. Our sins, He remembers no more. That's the whole point. Sinless and righteous in the spirit. We'll always carry the flesh around with us. And we can't hide from it. But we're dead to it.

God bless.

 

[Ariel82]

wow Elizabeth, you created quite a stir but I'm not sure why everyone is getting so upset.

I love that you have read the Bible so well. Your words are like a bucket of cold water, most people will object and yell, but in the end they might recognize how cleansing it can be because you are just repeating the sentiments found in the Bible:

1. We are sinners
2. if we continue to be sinners we are children of the devil or at the very least enslaved to sin and its false promises.
3. We can be born again if we have Faith in Jesus redeeming work on the cross. He sends His holy spirit out to allow us to cry out Abba, Father.

Anyway, here are some Bible verses that come to mind from reading your posts:

John 8
Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”
[SUP]42 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. [SUP]43 [/SUP]Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. [SUP]44 [/SUP]You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. [SUP]45 [/SUP]But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. [SUP]46 [/SUP]Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? [SUP]47 [/SUP]He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

I like these verses below because it gives us the same message: clearly showing us who we used to be and who God expects us to be now:

Colossians 3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. [SUP]4 [/SUP]When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, [SUP]7 [/SUP]in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, [SUP]10 [/SUP]and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,

[h=3]1 Peter 4[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

4 Therefore, since Christ suffered for us[SUP][a][/SUP] in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, [SUP]2 [/SUP]that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For we have spent enough of our past lifetime[SUP][b][/SUP] in doing the will of the Gentiles—when we walked in lewdness, lusts, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties, and abominable idolatries. [SUP]4 [/SUP]In regard to these, they think it strange that you do not run with them in the same flood of dissipation, speaking evil of you. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They will give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
[h=3][/h][SUP]7 [/SUP]But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.”[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]9 [/SUP]Be hospitable to one another without grumbling. [SUP]10 [/SUP]As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

I wonder how many people will actually read the scriptures posted above or how many will arrogantly think they already know it all and have not need to reread any scriptures posted?

 

[st_sebastian]

Anyway, folks, she's found us out. We, the twisting minions of Satan who want nothing more than to weaken this stranger's faith, are unmasked. Too bad this one knew beforehand how we'd respond. *hisses and skitters back into the darkness, waiting for the next victim*

 

[ElizabethPeter]

wow Elizabeth, you created quite a stir but I'm not sure why everyone is getting so upset.

I love that you have read the Bible so well. Your words are like a bucket of cold water, most people will object and yell, but in the end they might recognize how cleansing it can be because you are just repeating the sentiments found in the Bible:

1. We are sinners
2. if we continue to be sinners we are children of the devil or at the very least enslaved to sin and its false promises.
3. We can be born again if we have Faith in Jesus redeeming work on the cross. He sends His holy spirit out to allow us to cry out Abba, Father.

Anyway, here are some Bible verses that come to mind from reading your posts:



I like these verses below because it gives us the same message: clearly showing us who we used to be and who God expects us to be now:





I wonder how many people will actually read the scriptures posted above or how many will arrogantly think they already know it all and have not need to reread any scriptures posted?

Amen. Just, amen. People can get upset. But sometimes, we just have to get used to it. Jesus was God, and people didn't believe Him even though they saw Him do miraculous things. What more can be said? Thank you. God bless.

 

[chubbena]

Thought the title might catch your eye. Truth is, we're all children of the Devil. That's something that is stated so clearly in the Bible, in the book of John chapter 4 verse 44.
You may be thinking; "Oh, this girl is misinterpreting the Bible. She is wrong. False"

I can see your zeal for God but
a. did you say we are all children of the Devil or we were all children of the Devil?
b. John 4:44 says "Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country". Are you comparing yourself to a prophet? I'm just asking.

Go on, say what you want.

So you invite comments, correct?

But the truth is the truth. It's inevitable. And the truth is, the devil, can only feed of sin. He's the father of lies. The father of this earth.

The father of this earth? where do you see that?

You see, we're all sinners.

Again, are or were?

The minute Adam and Eve partook of that fruit and disobeyed God, sin entered their hearts, and they were immediately separated from God. From children of God, they became children of the Devil. Because you can only have one father. It's either God, or the Devil. And truthfully, we all had the same father; Satan. Yet, we never realized it.

Are you saying sinning will make one child of Satan? So most Christians are one moment Satan's children and the other moment God's children?

Satan was cursed to feed on the dust of this world. Adam came from dust. Adam's flesh, I mean. And the flesh, is sin. It's the whole definition of sin. So, Satan could only feed on our sin.

Dust is not sin. Otherwise you are implying God made man out of sin.

We were all dead in the flesh, and in the spirit. Some still are. But, that's the whole reason Jesus was sent; To bring life back to us.

So whoever truly believe in Him are not dead in the spirit any more.

I know so many of you will disagree with me. But, this is the Word of God. You just never saw it.

I see it as your thoughts mixing in with the Word of God.

Cain brought His works before God. (His fruits and crops). Abel brought Jesus before God (the lamb). God favoured Abel, because Abel acknowledged the fact that His works can't save him.

The bible doesn't say Abel brought lamb. The bible says he brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock.
It could be an ox or goat.
The bible also says: "The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor."
It's the person and his offering.

The Bible is known as the Word of God. And so is Jesus. Just change the title, and you've got yourself a book all about Jesus.

It's a book more than just about Yeshua whom you called Jesus.

Jonah represents us. The whale, is a fish. Fish speaks of faith; Jesus. Jonah entered the whale, and was there for three days before coming out. In the same manner, you have to enter Jesus, for three days; His death. Didn't Jesus die and resurrect three days later?

Where do you get this from? If it's from God He would have at least hinted that but the bible says: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Yeshua was comparing himself to Jonah and the big fish to the earth.

Die to yourself, then resurrect with Him. He came to give life. His life. So in reality, all that Christ is becomes you. Because of Christ, you become sinless, righteous, just, perfect, holy and so much more.

So true believers ARE NOT sinners, correct?

We all talk about Jesus dying for us. And we all go straight to the cross. Don't. Don't start during the middle of the race. Start from the beginning, then walk with Jesus. How can you walk with Christ, if you don't know where He's been? It's futile, and you'll just end up in the wrong place. Start at His baptism. Because that's where He took your sins. (I'll elaborate in that if you'd like). Then only can you die with Him and to your old self and resurrect into your new life.

Are you saying baptism is a must? There's at least an exception: the thief on the cross. Of course many in the OT. So I would say start at faith in Him.

I know that's not what I'm supposed to talk about, but I felt that that's something you needed to hear and know. Well, God did actually.

What do you mean?

You're a child of the Devil. Why? Because of sin. But, you can become a child of God. How? Through Jesus. Don't just say you believe Him. Know Him, understand Him, trust Him, rely on Him, and have faith in Him. Because faith has no power on its own. But faith in Jesus however, has tremendous power. I'm not saying this to condemn you. I was in your exact shoes. And I rebuked the fact that I used to be a child of the Devil. But ignoring it, won't change anything. I was condemned, lost, weary, broken, hurt, and loads more. But only because of Jesus, I became a child of God. And now, I can finally call God my Father.

Many were, or are but when you used "you" you have circled everyone reading your post, including true believers, as children of the Devil. You may be right, but then you may be not.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

I can see your zeal for God but
a. did you say we are all children of the Devil or we were all children of the Devil?
b. John 4:44 says "Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country". Are you comparing yourself to a prophet? I'm just asking.
So you invite comments, correct?The father of this earth? where do you see that?
Again, are or were?Are you saying sinning will make one child of Satan? So most Christians are one moment Satan's children and the other moment God's children?
Dust is not sin. Otherwise you are implying God made man out of sin.
So whoever truly believe in Him are not dead in the spirit any more.
I see it as your thoughts mixing in with the Word of God.
The bible doesn't say Abel brought lamb. The bible says he brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock.
It could be an ox or goat.
The bible also says: "The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor."
It's the person and his offering.
It's a book more than just about Yeshua whom you called Jesus.
Where do you get this from? If it's from God He would have at least hinted that but the bible says: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Yeshua was comparing himself to Jonah and the big fish to the earth.
So true believers ARE NOT sinners, correct?
Are you saying baptism is a must? There's at least an exception: the thief on the cross. Of course many in the OT. So I would say start at faith in Him.
What do you mean?
Many were, or are but when you used "you" you have circled everyone reading your post, including true believers, as children of the Devil. You may be right, but then you may be not.

John 8:44 not 4:44. Made a mistake.
I don't need to explain, because I already did. Sinless in the spirit, but sin is still in the flesh. Because that's the only things the devil can feed off of. The entire Bible is to be read spiritually. And it's not meant for everyone. "Do not give a pearl to hogs"
Not my thoughts. It's not about me. It's all about Him. Everyone is talking about sin this, and sin that. Well sin, isn't the reason you go to Hell. Unbelief is. That's all I can say. That's all God wants me to say.

God bless.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

Some people agree, some people don't. But you don't have to agree with me. Agree with God.

 

[Isdaniel]

Another 15 year old convinced they know more than people much older and more learned. Snore. Your constant arrogant attitude and condescending tone to everyone around you really makes everything you say a turn off. Soon as i saw it was you writing this i knew i wasn't interested.

Even if she is right or wrong
[h=3]Luke 2:41-52
[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]41 [/SUP]Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.

[SUP]43 [/SUP]And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.

[SUP]44 [/SUP]But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.

[SUP]45 [/SUP]And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.

[SUP]46 [/SUP]And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

[SUP]47 [/SUP]And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.

[SUP]48 [/SUP]And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.

[SUP]49 [/SUP]And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

[SUP]50 [/SUP]And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.

[SUP]51 [/SUP]And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.

[SUP]52 [/SUP]And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

 

[Stephen63]

wow Elizabeth, you created quite a stir but I'm not sure why everyone is getting so upset.

I love that you have read the Bible so well. Your words are like a bucket of cold water, most people will object and yell, but in the end they might recognize how cleansing it can be because you are just repeating the sentiments found in the Bible:

1. We are sinners
2. if we continue to be sinners we are children of the devil or at the very least enslaved to sin and its false promises.
3. We can be born again if we have Faith in Jesus redeeming work on the cross. He sends His holy spirit out to allow us to cry out Abba, Father.

Anyway, here are some Bible verses that come to mind from reading your posts:

I like these verses below because it gives us the same message: clearly showing us who we used to be and who God expects us to be now:

I wonder how many people will actually read the scriptures posted above or how many will arrogantly think they already know it all and have not need to reread any scriptures posted?

When a person makes statements like:
1. We are all children of the devil
2. She believes in the Big Bang theory
3. Baptism will save us

How are we supposed to react to that? Overlook it? Skip it? Receive it?
And BTW, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE NOT SINNERS. We were sinners. Past tense needs to be put where it belongs..... the past.

 

[Isdaniel]

Thought the title might catch your eye. Truth is, we're all children of the Devil. That's something that is stated so clearly in the Bible, in the book of John chapter 4 verse 44.
You may be thinking; "Oh, this girl is misinterpreting the Bible. She is wrong. False"
Go on, say what you want. But the truth is the truth. It's inevitable. And the truth is, the devil, can only feed of sin. He's the father of lies. The father of this earth. You see, we're all sinners. The minute Adam and Eve partook of that fruit and disobeyed God, sin entered their hearts, and they were immediately separated from God. From children of God, they became children of the Devil. Because you can only have one father. It's either God, or the Devil. And truthfully, we all had the same father; Satan. Yet, we never realized it.

Satan was cursed to feed on the dust of this world. Adam came from dust. Adam's flesh, I mean. And the flesh, is sin. It's the whole definition of sin. So, Satan could only feed on our sin. We were all dead in the flesh, and in the spirit. Some still are. But, that's the whole reason Jesus was sent; To bring life back to us. Not to bring religion. Not to bring works, and deeds. Or anything else as a matter of fact. He came to bring life. Because we are all dead, in the spirit. Yes, we're alive in the flesh, but inside, we're all dead. This is something so many people try to hide; the fact that they're dead.

I know so many of you will disagree with me. But, this is the Word of God. You just never saw it. Cain brought His works before God. (His fruits and crops). Abel brought Jesus before God (the lamb). God favoured Abel, because Abel acknowledged the fact that His works can't save him. Even before Jesus was brought into the world, you can see His role from the beginning of time itself. The Bible is literally a book about Jesus. The Bible is known as the Word of God. And so is Jesus. Just change the title, and you've got yourself a book all about Jesus. Now, you have to have that in mind whenever you read the Bible. Don't read it with a carnal mind. That's not what God wants you to do. Because a carnal mind can never comprehend what God is trying to say. For example Jonah and the whale;

Jonah represents us. The whale, is a fish. Fish speaks of faith; Jesus. Jonah entered the whale, and was there for three days before coming out. In the same manner, you have to enter Jesus, for three days; His death. Didn't Jesus die and resurrect three days later? Die to yourself, then resurrect with Him. He came to give life. His life. So in reality, all that Christ is becomes you. Because of Christ, you become sinless, righteous, just, perfect, holy and so much more. Not because of something you did. Go help the poor. Do it. But just keep this in your mind; Helping others isn't what saves you. Jesus is.

We all talk about Jesus dying for us. And we all go straight to the cross. Don't. Don't start during the middle of the race. Start from the beginning, then walk with Jesus. How can you walk with Christ, if you don't know where He's been? It's futile, and you'll just end up in the wrong place. Start at His baptism. Because that's where He took your sins. (I'll elaborate in that if you'd like). Then only can you die with Him and to your old self and resurrect into your new life.

I know that's not what I'm supposed to talk about, but I felt that that's something you needed to hear and know. Well, God did actually.

You're a child of the Devil. Why? Because of sin. But, you can become a child of God. How? Through Jesus. Don't just say you believe Him. Know Him, understand Him, trust Him, rely on Him, and have faith in Him. Because faith has no power on its own. But faith in Jesus however, has tremendous power. I'm not saying this to condemn you. I was in your exact shoes. And I rebuked the fact that I used to be a child of the Devil. But ignoring it, won't change anything. I was condemned, lost, weary, broken, hurt, and loads more. But only because of Jesus, I became a child of God. And now, I can finally call God my Father.

If you'd like to know more, just ask me. Don't resent me, or hate me, or even despise me. And even if you do, go ahead. I've heard it all. But this is something you should know. The truth may hurt. But it's better than a sweet lie. And please don't take any of this out of context. I hope the Lord speaks to you.

God bless.

Hebrews 2

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

 

[ElizabethPeter]

When a person makes statements like:
1. We are all children of the devil
2. She believes in the Big Bang theory
3. Baptism will save us

How are we supposed to react to that? Overlook it? Skip it? Receive it?
And BTW, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE NOT SINNERS. We were sinners. Past tense needs to be put where it belongs..... the past.

I was just kidding with the big band theory. I was trying to explain. Please do not misunderstand me. I beg of you.

 

[Isdaniel]

John 8:44 not 4:44. Made a mistake.
I don't need to explain, because I already did. Sinless in the spirit, but sin is still in the flesh. Because that's the only things the devil can feed off of. The entire Bible is to be read spiritually. And it's not meant for everyone. "Do not give a pearl to hogs"
Not my thoughts. It's not about me. It's all about Him. Everyone is talking about sin this, and sin that. Well sin, isn't the reason you go to Hell. Unbelief is. That's all I can say. That's all God wants me to say.

God bless.

Is unbelief sin ?

 

[Ariel82]

When a person makes statements like:
1. We are all children of the devil
2. She believes in the Big Bang theory
3. Baptism will save us

How are we supposed to react to that? Overlook it? Skip it? Receive it?
And BTW, BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE NOT SINNERS. We were sinners. Past tense needs to be put where it belongs..... the past.

1. she meant to say WERE.
2. The big bang thing is totally irrelevant to the Original post and her initial message.
3. she has stated again and again the baptism does not save JESUS does. would you like me to quote them for you?

 

[Isdaniel]

I believe there was a big bang

 

[Isdaniel]

God said let there be light, and BANG there was light hmmmmm you could imagine how big that bang was when God was creating stuff wheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[ElizabethPeter]

I said "you're a child of the devil". I was wrong to do so. I should've said "we"
But, I can't say we were. Some still are, and they don't realize it. I was one of them. I thought I was saved. And I was dead wrong. But I was ignorant to believe it. But the Lord saw my heart, and He opened it up for me. And now, I can boldly say that I'm already in the Kingdom of God. Because I know and understand how and why Christ did what He did. I'm not going to Heaven because I'm perfect and holy and anything like that. I'm going to Heaven, because I believe that in and through Him I'm made perfect and holy and anything like that. There is a big difference between the two. And finally, I can see it.

 

[Isdaniel]

Some people agree, some people don't. But you don't have to agree with me. Agree with God.

Unbelief is sin



Romans 14
[h=3]Romans 14:22-23
[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.