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chubbena
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So please take the time deal with my earlier post please. The quick response lead me to suspect you didn't take me seriously, not the other way round.
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chubbena
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Elizabeth, I'm not criticising you. I see your heart in this. But understand, here we are 4 pages later trying to spell this out correctly.
I know it can be difficult saying what we want to say....my own words were mistaken as an attack. I would suggest that perhaps you could type out your statements in a word processor & proofread them carefully, keeping it as simple as possible before posting them. Since God isn't the author of confusion, we must watch ourselves to keep from inadvertantly causing it.
Matthew 12:35-37 (KJV) [SUP]35 [/SUP]A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. [SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. [SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Jesus wasn't kidding when He said that.
I hope you understand that I was a little hard on you because I care, & know you're a dedicated christian. Your life is one well worth building on. Some who come in here honestly aren't worth dealing with.....but you are. Please take that as a compliment.
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ElizabethPeter
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Can you please explain what you meant in your other post? Cause it was quite short.
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ElizabethPeter
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I know all of you mean well. I do, honestly. And I mean well as well.I'm sorry for being aggressive when I posted that. Not my intention. I just wanted it to be out there. The title was misleading, and so were some of it's contents. And I sincerely apologize.
Sister it is not us using our flesh for God's work, we have died to flesh works and made alive by and for God to do the works God wants through us, being made alive in the Spirit by the resurrected Christ and walk as Christ walked
I write so that we do not sin and stay walking in the Spirit of God, God in the lead, therefore as Paul I die daily.
Is this what you meant
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Ariel82
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your earlier post (post 48?) is kind of confusing with a bunch of misunderstanding of what she wrote in the first place.
perhaps you could concisely ask questions that you would like answered?
I don't think she is claiming to be a prophet, just speaking as God moves her to and as the Bible commands all of us to.
1 Peter 4:11 If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
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ElizabethPeter
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Yes. That was. I didn't mean it's how you use your flesh. You can use your flesh to feed the poor, or raise money. These are all good things, but they do not send you to Heaven. That was basically my point. Daily, we are to die to our flesh. Yes, we still sin in the flesh. But it's not the flesh that God came to save. It was the spirit.
"Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Give to God what belongs to God"
Our flesh belongs to this world. Our spirit belongs to God. That's what I'm trying to say.
God bless.
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Bryancampbell
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Wow, when I read her first post, it was more like zeal. Weird how you would bring up age and not the actual discussion of the thread. There are many young devoted Christians who can be considered an elder in their knowledge than the actual elders in the church. I'm not calling anyone here an elder, she still seems like she is trying to grasp it the best she can, but she is zealous. Read her post at least if you haven't!
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ElizabethPeter
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Everything and anything can be used against me. But sometimes, it's a good thing. Everything happens for a reason. But giving up, is never an option.
God uses His children, no matter how they articulate, He speaks through them because they are being themselves.
God doesn't always speak softly, He is just who He is and His children love the truth no matter how it comes.
There are many so called Christians here who hate the truth, . These are Christians in name only, not in spirit.
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Bryancampbell
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Now Elizabeth, we must also be open to what people say as well. Not always accepting people's thoughts, but learning. Whether we learn truth from them, or truth about how to protect ourselves from them. It was arrogant to say that what you say is the definite truth and if they don't like it then that's up to them. We must realize, we could be wrong too in some areas. Love your zeal, I use to have a powerful zeal at 15 and I had people completely ignore me for my youth thinking I was being arrogant, I was just excited about what I learned I had to share. But God humbled me because I thought what I said was definite, and I learned wisdom through a listening ear. I still falter sometimes, but that's why I'm still learning! =)
And where one says this is good another says this is bad. God is the only one good period, even Christ said this. Your words interpretations as how you write and come across is of flesh meaning well maybe, but Sister the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and I am glad you are being forth right into how and what you believe to be true, yet as me you are in an unredeemed flesh body, that is always hanging around to deceive us, I also post what I see in what from Father has made me see truth that has set me free. for I believe the truth to set us free and we shall be free indeed.
So let me say this if you are in bondage at all, in anything you still commit, then you are not free, for that means there is error in your truth that keeps you and anyone else in bondage.
Therefore if I see me in bondage then I know there has to be error in my truth somewhere, and I then know I need to re-think my truth, if I am not free. I can claim that I am and I am only by Christ the finished work done at the cross. yet the results behind closed doors tell me the truth, is it all God and none of me? And you Sister, yourself,
Christ did not take away the sin of the world for us or anyone to take it for granted, nor from us to be prideful and or boastful if God has delivered us from sin as is what is meant and can only be done if one stays in the Spirit of God 24/7. That can only be accomplished through daily trust in Father showing us daily to be dead to self and alive to God
read Phil 3:10-11 where Paul states it straight out that being conformed to the death of Christ is the doorway to the resurrected Christ, if God will permit you, me and or anyone else to see. Maybe we all just need to cry for his Mercy to receive truth, and quit being self-righteous as many do come across this way and say they are not.
Thanks
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ElizabethPeter
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Oh, sir, with all due respect. Humility is all I have. I know I came off as arrogant. But it wasn't my intention. I can learn from just about anyone. Because God teaches through them, and His Word. But sir, I know for a fact that this is the truth. If I say it's not, then how can someone else believe me, when I myself am not sure? Just as God wants us to be humble, He wants us to be proud. Proud of His son, the Truth. Not of our own fleshly ideas, and thoughts. We're all human anyways. I'm still young, and I still have a lot to learn. But God reveals things, is the strangest ways. And sometimes, listening is all it takes. He works through me, and through others as well. And when it comes to God, it's never enough. It's not about how much you know. It's about how much you believe.
God bless.
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ElizabethPeter
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And where are you getting this from? Because when it comes to God, nothing is symbolic, and there's a meaning behind everything. But I do understand your point.
There is righteous zeal:
John 2:12-17 (KJV) [SUP]12 [/SUP]After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, [SUP]14 [/SUP]And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: [SUP]15 [/SUP]And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; [SUP]16 [/SUP]And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
And there is misguided zeal:
Romans 10:1-3 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Fleshly zeal can be so powerful we can mistake it as being led by the Spirit. We can even have fleshly zeal for what we believe to be righteous things:
Philippians 3:4-6 (KJV) [SUP]4 [/SUP]Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: [SUP]5 [/SUP]Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; [SUP]6 [/SUP]Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
What's truly important is having the wisdom to know the difference
John 2:12-17 (KJV) [SUP]12 [/SUP]After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, [SUP]14 [/SUP]And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: [SUP]15 [/SUP]And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; [SUP]16 [/SUP]And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
And there is misguided zeal:
Romans 10:1-3 (KJV) [SUP]1 [/SUP]Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Fleshly zeal can be so powerful we can mistake it as being led by the Spirit. We can even have fleshly zeal for what we believe to be righteous things:
Philippians 3:4-6 (KJV) [SUP]4 [/SUP]Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: [SUP]5 [/SUP]Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; [SUP]6 [/SUP]Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
What's truly important is having the wisdom to know the difference
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overcomer2
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Also a point to make that many will try to trap you with your words. Taking little mistakes and going for the throat. Here is the word of the Lord. Now, by little mistakes I mean typo's, and things that are very insignificant. It is not a mistake that we were born into sin. We have been adopted.
Proverbs 12:6 The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood: but the mouth of the upright shall deliver them.
Proverbs 12:6 The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood: but the mouth of the upright shall deliver them.
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ElizabethPeter
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I am liberated, and free of bondage. But not because of myself. Only because of Christ. I still sin, in the flesh. That's something I have to say over and over again or not condemnation will fill my heart. But you know what Christ did, that we could never do? He fulfilled the Law for us. Love God with all your heart, soul and mind? We can't do that. We still show love for the world. And that's something we can't deny. But when we couldn't love God with all our heart,soul and mind, Christ did. Because we can't brag about our love for God. We can however brag about His love for us.
God bless.