What is Dispensationalism?

[eternally-gratefull]

but u c thats my very point
u dnt trust in Gods word incapable of cing that for thousands and thousands of years
God's word has been preserved
just because there are thousands and thousands of Bibles that have literally been translated by

antichristians
satanists
and pagans

im not making this up btw its on record,u can read history like i hav

but the point is that u shouldnt say that. why say that? Ppl even said that Shakespeare helped ryt the bible. I mean he had great talent, but so did the devil - so does.

And the kjv is historically the greatest piece of english literature, of literature in general - period.

just because a couple of nephilim-bone-worshippers get together in a devil fest an decide 2 undermine the greatest work of literature ever created... does not mean every1 must follow suite.

1. The kjv is an old bible written in an old extinct language
2. The KJV is not perfect in any way, it has mistakes
3. No english bible is complete. Many greek and hebrew words can not be properly translated into the english, They did the best they could. It is not their fault the english language is a basic weak language.

Again, do you want to learn to be humble. or continue to be proud until God humbles you>

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh...another KJV onlyist...Lovely!

we see where his attitude and judgment and lack of humility comes from.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Same place they were in Pauls day.

No different. Read rev 1-3. You think it changed, it has not.

Many people believed you could not eat meat. Yet paul said not to judge them.

God is judge, not you me or anyone else.

that is a very liberal look at things, to put it lightly lol - a holocaust, WW1 and WW2, Inquisitions, the black plague war crimes... id say things hav gotten way worse....... nuclear and biological weapons that can take out an entire continent id say things r so bad now, if u aint livin on a prayer, then u aint living brother?

its not an issue of judgement either.

let me put it this way, if u believe that Jesus is never ever goin 2 return and that we r in heaven now well then u completely blind. thats lunacy. there's way 2 much goin on 2 say that, but as long as there is war and murder and adultery this world is not heaven............ ppl who are ANTI hell r definitely not saved thats a big part of the gospel.

u preach 2 sav ppl from hell. if u dont believe in hell theres no point.

also if u dont believ Jesus is ever coming back, then what's the point again?

u c so, its easy 2 get caught up, but if u dont follow the Word, well then u myt actually not be saved. but thats not 4 me 2 decide. im more into encouraging others 2 preach the real gospel, otherwise ppl r goin 2 hell. simple.

also ppl who think spiritual discernment is a fairy tail r in 4 a spiritual butt whippen. if u dont correct ever, then u setting all ur disciples up 4 back-slidding.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Um.. Scripture says the pridefull christian would be least. Not those who do not understand all of Gods words correctly.

so why are you being so proud?

i consider myself a pretty humble guy
joke joke
if u say u humble, then u proud
no im not saying im perfect,
just dont make an excuse for sin,
otherwise u make excuses for ur disciples
and that ruins the faith
if u cant b confident about what Jesus teaches,
then well no1 else will follow suite.
its that simple

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i consider myself a pretty humble guy
joke joke
if u say u humble, then u proud
no im not saying im perfect,
just dont make an excuse for sin,
otherwise u make excuses for ur disciples
and that ruins the faith
if u cant b confident about what Jesus teaches,
then well no1 else will follow suite.
its that simple

lol. They are confident, like you are. That hey are right.

your logic fails you. No one will know who is 100 % right until it happens. Thats a fact, ANyone who says otherwise is not humble. but proud.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

thats not the point.

amills believe jesus is coming back. You totally missed the point!

The point was interpreting prophesy correctly was not a prerequisite for walking with god. if it was. non of his disciples would have walked with him.

thats theory doesnt fly
the NT is the revelation of the OT
the ot has been revealed. so there r no more rooms for excuses
if u cant understand the gospel, well then obvious dont teach
but if u can, and refuse to tell others who cant how it really is, then also - dont teach

i thot amills believe He wasnt coming back
im pretty sure that's what they teach.
ive read a bit
mb u just saying that?
explain what u mean

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Oh...another KJV onlyist...Lovely!

oh ye ye lol
Gail Riplinger
i dont usually name drop
but she is the man
i mean
the woman
lady

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Prophesy is not a basic. Never has been, Never will be.

Thats why God did not punish the disiples for not understanding the prophesy completely about him.

Your turning and advanced doctrine into a basic doctrine, If it was basic. we would all believe the same. Even premills do not agree with everything concerning the doctrine of pre-millennialsim, nor do amills.

It will not be a basic doctrine until it is fulfilled. or we are in eternity, and know for a FACT what the true interpretation was.

of cors it is
Jesus taught a simple faith, a faith like a child........ u know mindless 2 wat sin is, but filled with knowledge of spiritual things
its easy man
my yoke is easy
r u telling me that the past thousands of thousands of years went down because apprently
Gods word is 2 hard 2 understand?
well mb with ur own human mind, but if u lead by God's spirit trusting then why should it b hard?

that doctrine has been so well established. thats my point. times change. if somethin is defined beyond reason of a doubt, an ppl still wanna say u wearing a tinfoil hat, well then thre's a problem. Jesus didn't have an entire new testament establishd for us to sweep the end times under the carpet.

3 4ths of the bible link very intimately 2 the end times btw. i bet u didnt know that did ya?

and just because thre's a TUMULT (a disagreement) among brethren, does not give way 4 a new teaching that oh now suddenly we must make room for the pharisees this side, and saducees that side......

u c if u understand but r ignorant 4 the sake of the ignorant, thats the same as leading the blind. u hav an eye, but out of that pride u talk about, removed the eye, or had it done for u......

if u know the truth, and hide it, doesnt the Bible say something about not being able to hide the Light of the Gospel?

all this talk of advanced and basic makes me think of college, but if i recall the bybl cannot b underrstand by the human mind............ so where does that leave u then if u saying that its complicated?

 

[JesusChica1991]

oh ye ye lol
Gail Riplinger
i dont usually name drop
but she is the man
i mean
the woman
lady

heard it all. Dude, I go to a bible college. Please, I've heard of every KJV onlyist you can possibly imagine. I've done multiple Bible comparisons and manuscript comparisons. Please, don't mock me. Thank you.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

1. The kjv is an old bible written in an old extinct language
2. The KJV is not perfect in any way, it has mistakes
3. No english bible is complete. Many greek and hebrew words can not be properly translated into the english, They did the best they could. It is not their fault the english language is a basic weak language.

Again, do you want to learn to be humble. or continue to be proud until God humbles you>

haha
the kjv is only a couple hundred years old
our royal ancestry is thousands and thousands of years old
and u telling me the kjv is ancient

then u making me think u dont appreciate the relics and patriachs, the saints, and history and all wat went down.

man, u probably dont care about the arc of the covenant or the noah's arc?

the tablets of the ten commandments.

i mean its not all gonna guarantee salvation doh. but just let me get this ryt

ur saying, u can liv in a complete blinded denialistic self-absorbed state, uninterested by our past and history, and still go 2 heaven?

so u can just pretend that everything is fine?

wont that effect ur connection with god?

i meanif u act like the past is pallony, and who cares? the church of satan (1966) basically taught do whatever u want, whenever and who cares. im not saying thats what ur saying, but it sounds a lot like it.

ummm.... it's not important. its a minor issue. since when?

BASIC + WEAK LANGUAGE

Man, im not trying 2 take a moral high ground here, but if done my research, and let me tell ya - ur wrong. give me ur sources at least then. ill read up on whose telling u this.

English is formed out of all the Empire languages coming from the 15th century......... latin, french... i don't wanna name drop too much, but English is not an inferior language. there are only inferior minds. english is fully capable of representing God's words...

and FYI.............. James had his best men on the job.

FYI further almost every other translation was done by ppl who r not Christian.

so u tell me its a conspiracy, cus i see a lot of ppl painted green.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

we see where his attitude and judgment and lack of humility comes from.

did u know that we r witnessing history ryt now

first there was the KJV debate

then the creation one

now no one cares about anything.

just a bunch of slobs. not u im saying. im just saying that everyone is so disinterested with the Bible.

its lyk mass madness.

wat happened 2 takin the word for word by word, and not taking it with salt. we are the salt

and if im ignorant to defend the Word, then ill b ignorant till im in my grave

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

lol. They are confident, like you are. That hey are right.

your logic fails you. No one will know who is 100 % right until it happens. Thats a fact, ANyone who says otherwise is not humble. but proud.

the parable goes "we will not know the TIME", it doesn't say "oh but actually the whole bible is ah... symbolic and a fairytale..... and just do what thou wilt... actually join the Church of satan".

whoops........ 1966

u c, so u can't make scripture say something else. its easy i can do it too. i used 2. i used 2 b a dum A.... esss... ye.

still struggle sometimes. sometimes im like "did i do that?" wow

but u cant take small passages and use them to cater for a mass of people. that'll only produce confusion.

the bible is not complicated because someone is clever, its complicated cus someone is stupid and not following the Spirit of God. its thats simple.

i mean u cant teach ppl that the Holy Spirit is just a dove and

The Spirit is scary man. i mean u shouldnt be scared, but He's God, and He's Powerful. U know the trinity. And that's what I'm saying.

If u make room for error, then u set urself up for spiritual decay. its bad

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

heard it all. Dude, I go to a bible college. Please, I've heard of every KJV onlyist you can possibly imagine. I've done multiple Bible comparisons and manuscript comparisons. Please, don't mock me. Thank you.

oh sure u heard it all, but i guarantee most ppl havent
also, just because u hear a thing once doesnt mean u get the whole thing
i been 2 college, and i still study now, but backside off lol but i only learned i know nothing
i studied so long - and i know absolutely nothing go figure
and they say u need a degree to teach the gospel
poppykok!

oh no sister u need 2 read gail riplinger. u obviously didnt check her out. she is cream of the crop

and also, btw ------------- i know a lot of bi students........ personally lol........... just cus u in BI does not mean u understand the finer points..

and i know a lot of ppl wu arent christian and do bible analysis.

do u know about Chuck mislers bible codes mis know it all lol

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

I guess I should make a conclusion...

eternally-gratefull, im pretty sure that ur a great guy and all, and i don't doubt that u preach the gospel, what im saying is that if u are not making ur beliefs about the end time straight forward, but rather choosing for them to be wishy-washy, well then, u can have hope that'll eventually happen 2 all ur other beliefs. that's what happened 2 so many disciples. the make room for error. then they start making excuses like crazy wow. its anythign. oh no everything is an issue, but only when u say it. oh wait, that guy believes Jesus is a women and green with huge alien eyes....... no that's fine... u c what i mean. crazy. u start with a mole hill and it becomes a mountain.

jesus chica im sure ur a great gal 2 and happy ur in seminary, but sister if u not sticking with the facts and letting the popular bible seminary kids tell u how it is man u gna develope a weak faith (believe me i tried). just bcus they also at BI does not mean they know a thing. there r a lot of satanists that actually went 2 get theological degrees. charles darwin was 1 of those satanists. as i said earlier, u need to watch gail riplinger movies. ill even send u the links. that chick is so HOT. I mean not "hot", just lol she's fine... i mean, she''s a good sister..... u know what i mean. but its not a conspiracy and i dont wear a tinfoil hat.

 

[BradC]

lol. They are confident, like you are. That hey are right.

your logic fails you. No one will know who is 100 % right until it happens. Thats a fact, ANyone who says otherwise is not humble. but proud.

How could we be confident, assured and convinced of the truth by applying your logic to the scriptures that we have been given by the Spirit? Is it proud to be convinced and assured of the truth that we have in Christ which includes God's plan for Israel and the church? If we applied your logic we would not have any assurance that what Christ did on the cross is enough or that his blood has actually cleansed us from all sin. How would we even know that we have the Spirit dwelling in us unless we were 100% assured by God in the scriptures. We can't afford to preach the truth and hope it's true. That would be wishy-washy if we did so and we would susceptible to meddling with all kinds of change having no real conviction from God. There were many prophecies concerning the coming of Messiah and when he came he was not received or recognized as such by his own. What makes you think that even when these things come to past that those who lived in unbelief or uncertainty will know 100%.

Jesus said that he told of these things before so that when they come to past they might believe (Jn 14:29). These things were spoken to those in unbelief that lived in doubt and were not convinced that what he had spoke to them was the truth. We can know the truth with absolute certainty and come to the knowledge of the truth with confidence, assurance and with conviction from God all wrapped up in faith, for the just shall live by faith and walk in the promises of God. I know that Christ is coming back for his church and redeemed body to catch it away and keep it from the hour of temptation, others do not and that is their unbelief and lack of hope all because they have something against dispensationalism that includes Israel and the mystery of Christ and the church. That to me is very strange when they have the promises of God right in front of them and they refuse to believe them and become twisted away from all their benefits. We have to hold fast the truth no matter what they try to do to convince us otherwise and that is being steadfast and immovable.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

1. The kjv is an old bible written in an old extinct language
2. The KJV is not perfect in any way, it has mistakes
3. No english bible is complete. Many greek and hebrew words can not be properly translated into the english, They did the best they could. It is not their fault the english language is a basic weak language.

Again, do you want to learn to be humble. or continue to be proud until God humbles you>

The KJV has no mistakes.

God's word cannot have mistakes or errors.

Just humble yourself and submit to God's Book.


Also one of the very definitions of "extinct" means: no longer in use.

Therefore the beautiful language of the King James Bible is NOT extinct. There are still thousands upon thousands of saved people who use and read from the Authorized King James Bible.

 

[zone]

Man, im not trying 2 take a moral high ground here, but if done my research, and let me tell ya - ur wrong. give me ur sources at least then. ill read up on whose telling u this.

English is formed out of all the Empire languages coming from the 15th century......... latin, french... i don't wanna name drop too much, but English is not an inferior language. there are only inferior minds. english is fully capable of representing God's words...

do you plan to actually start speaking english?

or r u jes gon yoos kiddee txt tok?

 

[zone]

how's the definition of Dispensationalism coming along (in this thread)?

 

[PeteWaldo]

I think the fact that "REPLACEMENT THEOLEGEE!!!" gets thrown around like the liberal throws around "RACISST!!!" is evidence enough of what is happening.

Do you prefer the term supersessionism?
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY OR SUPERSESSIONISM

 

[eternally-gratefull]

How could we be confident, assured and convinced of the truth by applying your logic to the scriptures that we have been given by the Spirit? Is it proud to be convinced and assured of the truth that we have in Christ which includes God's plan for Israel and the church? If we applied your logic we would not have any assurance that what Christ did on the cross is enough or that his blood has actually cleansed us from all sin. How would we even know that we have the Spirit dwelling in us unless we were 100% assured by God in the scriptures. We can't afford to preach the truth and hope it's true. That would be wishy-washy if we did so and we would susceptible to meddling with all kinds of change having no real conviction from God. There were many prophecies concerning the coming of Messiah and when he came he was not received or recognized as such by his own. What makes you think that even when these things come to past that those who lived in unbelief or uncertainty will know 100%.

Jesus said that he told of these things before so that when they come to past they might believe (Jn 14:29). These things were spoken to those in unbelief that lived in doubt and were not convinced that what he had spoke to them was the truth. We can know the truth with absolute certainty and come to the knowledge of the truth with confidence, assurance and with conviction from God all wrapped up in faith, for the just shall live by faith and walk in the promises of God. I know that Christ is coming back for his church and redeemed body to catch it away and keep it from the hour of temptation, others do not and that is their unbelief and lack of hope all because they have something against dispensationalism that includes Israel and the mystery of Christ and the church. That to me is very strange when they have the promises of God right in front of them and they refuse to believe them and become twisted away from all their benefits. We have to hold fast the truth no matter what they try to do to convince us otherwise and that is being steadfast and immovable.

lol. They have hope in Christ. to say they do not. is to bear false witness against them.

Catholics I agree. have no hope. But not because they are amill, because they place their faiht in self not Christ. But my amill friends on here do. If you deny it, You must have a different gospel than i do. iun which case. i worry about your eternity