Pedophiles Wanting Same Rights as Homosexuals

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Elizabeth619

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I do remember around a year ago getting into a discussion with a liberal member on here how homosexual marriage/rights could easily open the door for sex offenders to want the same rights. I was told I was insane to think such a thing would happen. Well, it seems it is happening. Some psychologists are already saying that pedophilia is a sexual orientation and not a mental disorder. This is the exact same path homosexuality took. Look where we are now...



Pedophile support group seeks ‘truth and dignity’ - Want same rights as homosexuals


August 2, 2013 (Renewamerica.com) – Who could've seen this coming? Well, those of us who can see the "logical" end results of the radical homosexual movement, that's who. With homosexual activists on the march throughout our government, military, schools and society in general, many of us have warned that their push for special "rights" would – besides trample on the freedoms of speech, religion and association of those who oppose them – inevitably lead to demands by other sexual deviants, like pedophiles, for their own societal affirmation.


Jack Minor, in his column titled "Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals," wrote:


Using the same tactics used by "gay" rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.


Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an "alternative lifestyle" or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. "Gay" advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.


In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.


B4U-Act calls pedophiles "minor-attracted people." The organization's website states its purpose is to, "help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear."


In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming "that the 'negative potential' of adult sex with children was 'overstated' and that 'the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences."


I don't know where the APA came up with such absurd claims. Childhood sexual abuse has screwed up countless millions of people. It is a lie from the pit of Hell to say that shattering a child's fragile innocence in such an abominable way, in the "vast majority" of cases, has no negative "sexual effects." Childhood sexual abuse has strong, clear correlations to numerous problems, sexual and otherwise, that victims experience into adulthood. Some of the problems, cited by the American Counseling Association, include:


... higher levels of depression, guilt, shame, self-blame, eating disorders, somatic concerns, anxiety, dissociative patterns, depression, denial, sexual problems, and relationship problems.


Childhood sexual abuse victims may also struggle with drug and alcohol abuse, suicidal tendencies and possibly even become abusers themselves. Anyone who says that childhood sexual abuse doesn't really hurt kids is a liar with an evil agenda.


I read through the B4U-ACT website to see what it's about. It's a tax exempt 501(c)(3) organization. B4U-ACT (why the dumbed-down abbreviated name?) has quite a bit of repetition on its site. Its subheading is "Living in Truth and Dignity." Truth and dignity for whom? Pedophiles? How about for their little victims? I looked throughout the site for any condemnation of adult sexual contact with children but found none.


By sanitizing the term for child predators in calling them "minor-attracted people," the B4U-ACT gang is trying to remove the quite-warranted repulsion society has for pedophiles. They also parse the definition of pedophile by trying to put child sexual perverts in various innocuous categories to suggest some of these deviants would never act on their "affections" toward children.


From their "Principles and Perspectives of Practice" page:


... We see minor-attracted people as whole human beings, not as dangerous criminals or "deviants."


... We recognize the severe stigma directed against minor-attracted people by the media, politicians, law enforcement officials, and some mental health professionals. We oppose the perpetuation of false stereotypes and the use of language that instills fear in the public, fails to promote understanding, and ignores the humanity of minor-attracted people.


... Providers have an obligation to offer and engage in continuing education and professional growth activities on an ongoing basis in order to promote and develop a more accurate understanding of individuals who are sexually attracted to minors and to improve services for them. Such activities should challenge popular stereotypes rather than reinforce them, and portray the full humanity of minor-attracted people.


These people are pedophile defenders. While there are statements on the site that indicate they do not want adults to break the law, there is no condemnation for always-detestable adult sexual contact with children. Instead, this group seeks to fight "false stereotypes" of child sexual predators. What a sham! Despite their claims to the contrary, YES, people who lust for children WILL act on those hell-born "feelings."


The public does not need to be "educated" to develop an "understanding" of pedophiles. We already know all we need to know about them. What they do is despicable, and only a miracle transformation of their spirits by God can break the evil chain of darkest sin that ensnares their souls, and although it's possible, it's a very hard thing to accomplish, because as Jesus said of such people in Matthew 18:6,


But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Our nation is walking in darkness, and it's getting darker by the minute. The militant homosexual movement is steamrolling across the country shoving perverse sexual degeneracy in our faces, warping the minds and spirits of our school kids, shredding the meaning of marriage, destroying the cohesion of our military and spitting on the rights of others. Don't think for a minute that other sexual perverts will not follow the same battle plan as the homosexual alphabet soup brigade in their quest to force society to accept sexual abomination. The first step is to create sympathy and "understanding" for the child sexual predator, and the B4U-ACT website bends over backward to do just that.


Re-published with permission of the author from Renewamerica.com

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Dear father in Heaven protect the children
 
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I don't understand people who claimed it would never happened.

What has happened before is not destined to occur again, but the possibility of it happening should never be ruled out.
 

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they said 100 years ago they were doing this.
it's war.
 

TheAristocat

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You pedophobes. What's wrong with you right-wing nuts?

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You pedophobes. What's wrong with you right-wing nuts?

Sorry. Had to... ;)
typical slippery-slope argument with no connection to reality. pedophiles already have the right to marry each other.
if fact almost any two consenting adult pedophiles can pretty much do whatever they want with each other in all 50 states, because most pedophiles are straight and the law cracks down on homosexuals while turning a blind eye to pedophiles. before right wing nuts tried to outlaw homosexuality, only 3% of children's accusations of molestation resulted in conviction, compared to 74% of accusations of theft resulting in conviction, and yes you right wing nut do know that it's a lot less likely for a child to falsely accuse anyone of molestation than for an adult to falsely accuse someone of theft. so how is it going after you right wing nuts went after the homosexuals? still a 3% conviction rate for the molesters. the most likely cause if this consistent miscarriage of justice, is because 97% of child molestation cases are straight, not homosexual, and right wing nuts make sure to foul up convictions in straight child molestation cases because they pose a reality which interferes with the slippery-slope fallacy.
 
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97% of child molestation accusations by children are against adults of the opposite sex of the children. gay rights do not open the door to pedophile's rights, homophobia opens the door to pedophiles' rights. admit it gay-haters, you do think it's a bit okay for a man to molest a little girl, or a woman to molest a little boy, sickos that you are.
 

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97% of child molestation accusations by children are against adults of the opposite sex of the children. gay rights do not open the door to pedophile's rights, homophobia opens the door to pedophiles' rights. admit it gay-haters, you do think it's a bit okay for a man to molest a little girl, or a woman to molest a little boy, sickos that you are.
Homosexuality and pedophilia both fall under the category of abberant sexuality. There's no point in having sex with a child who has an inability to conceive children due to a lack of physical maturity. I think the most you could get out of heterosexuals is the admission that it is completely acceptable for two sexually mature individuals to marry - barring their emotional maturity. Hence the low marriage age of 16 in Scotland. And I'm not prepared to call Scotland a community of pedophiles. But having sex with someone who's eight years old is another story. But I'm sure that now one form of aberrant sexuality has been accepted and welcomed, pedophiles will regain confidence to come out of the closet and champion their own positions that will leave liberals agreeing, "Yes! If an eight year old willingly admits to wanting to make love, then how can we come between them and love?" Don't believe me? Look at where homosexuality was in the 1950's compared to now. They could've made the same arguments back then, but I guess they hadn't worked up the nerve yet.
 

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Expect arguments dealing with 1. love, 2. freedom, 3. age of consent, 4. rare cases of child genius and awareness of desires, 5. no biologically clear line delineating where one becomes an adult as opposed to a child (save in the case of sexual maturity), 6. the USA's recognition of foreign marriages even if they go above and beyond the definition of marriage as defined in the USA. Take note of this last one. You'll have people coming from foreign countries with eight year-old brides, the USA recognizing those marriages, and then pedophiles picking on the USA for discrimination and the persecution of its own citizens while showing favoritism to foreign citizens. It will happen. It only needs enough supporters agreeing upon these points.
 
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Aristocat, you stated that 'There's no point in having sex with a child who ahs an inability to conceive children due to a lack of physical maturity.' Actually, there have been cases in different parts of the world, where girls at age 8 or 9 have given birth; an 11 year old boy impregnated his friend's mother etc. It's not the physical maturity that's the problem, it's the spiritual and mental ability of the child to comprehend the situation. They are ready at that age, to be sexualised.
 

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It's not the physical maturity that's the problem, it's the spiritual and mental ability of the child to comprehend the situation. They are ready at that age, to be sexualised.
Hence my remark, "barring their emotional maturity." And being able to understand one's level of emotional maturity makes us reliant upon psychologists, some of whom in that day I'm sure will proclaim that some children are emotionally ready and able. Or it will require us to be able to see inside of a child's mind, which may be ruled as impossible and any data gathered from neuroimaging ruled as subjective.

I'm sure that many conservatives will rise up in that day and give the statistics and reports that detail the consequences of individuals having sexual partners before a certain age or the adverse effects of pedophilia - the same statistics and reports that liberals are comfortable with accepting in our day. But I'm also certain that the liberals of tomorrow will blow the reports off as biased and phony, and mock and jeer conservatives as pedophobes, backward, unprogressive, traditional and irrational. Even if they admitted to the reports I'm sure they'll claim such instances as listed in your post and criticize conservatives for trying to force their own moral code on others.
 
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I do remember around a year ago getting into a discussion with a liberal member on here how homosexual marriage/rights could easily open the door for sex offenders to want the same rights.
Homosexuals are sex offenders. There is no distinction to be made except in the object of their unlawful lusts.
 

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I feel that in this "enlightened" age the direction of society is to question traditions and discard those that do not readily conform to naturalism or have answers as apparent as those conclusions most easily arrived at. But this is not enlightenment. It's simply taking things at face-value without assessing the reasons behind these traditions and then ultimately discarding those traditions in favor of the easiest and most apparent conclusions. This "enlightened" mentality is good at formulating theory but is not as good at arriving at solutions that have a practical function. And this "enlightened" mentality is the trend for the foreseeable future. So present your statistics, your neuroimaging, your psychological opinions, personal stories, theological views, legal arguments, etc. But be prepared for them to throw their hands up and say, "Just leave us alone, you bigot! How are we hurting you?"
 
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There is a lot of knee jerk pitchfork mob mentality when it comes to this subject. the word Paedophile, is a much mis-understood and incorrectly used term.

Paedophiles are interested in very young children and babies.

Ephebophilia is the term used for an attraction to older adolescents, say 14-16.

Many people are attracted to older "children" as in teenagers, which is an entirely different kettle of fish, falling in love and having a relationship with 15 year old who is as good as an adult is not the same as raping a baby. Certainly not all 15 year olds are mature enough for a relationship and thus we have laws in place to deal with that.

The lowering of age of consent is not that big a deal. There are already laws in place to protect people, but if a 16 year old is ready for marriage and so on, then what's the problem?
 
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typical slippery-slope argument with no connection to reality. pedophiles already have the right to marry each other.
if fact almost any two consenting adult pedophiles can pretty much do whatever they want with each other in all 50 states, because most pedophiles are straight and the law cracks down on homosexuals while turning a blind eye to pedophiles. before right wing nuts tried to outlaw homosexuality, only 3% of children's accusations of molestation resulted in conviction, compared to 74% of accusations of theft resulting in conviction, and yes you right wing nut do know that it's a lot less likely for a child to falsely accuse anyone of molestation than for an adult to falsely accuse someone of theft. so how is it going after you right wing nuts went after the homosexuals? still a 3% conviction rate for the molesters. the most likely cause if this consistent miscarriage of justice, is because 97% of child molestation cases are straight, not homosexual, and right wing nuts make sure to foul up convictions in straight child molestation cases because they pose a reality which interferes with the slippery-slope fallacy.
'' because most pedophiles are straight and the law cracks down on homosexuals while turning a blind eye to pedophiles.''

Could you give the stats where homosexuals are being arrested for being homosexual compared to pedophiles?

I don't think anyone is suggesting outlawing homosexuality. We just do not want it promoted or condoned in such fallacies as ''gay rights'' and gay marriage.
 
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Just a fyi....sex and love are not the same thing.
 
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Wow! I think that spiritually we are worthy of the blame and punishment when we agree, tolerate or accept wrong things like that...
 
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I don't think anyone is suggesting outlawing homosexuality. We just do not want it promoted or condoned in such fallacies as ''gay rights'' and gay marriage.
Homosexuality should be outlawed as it is against the law of God. Western nations used to, until the 1950s and 60s and the age of apostasy set in. It is the metropolitan elites that set the agendas today, not the theocrats of old. The metropolitan elites are all atheists, except perhaps for certain Tea Party folk.
 

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First it was homosexuals who used the "I was born this way" excuse. Now it's pedophiles. I wonder how many cheating spouses will get away with it? Probably not very many. :eek: