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Which is why I'd like to know if they were believers. But in my mind there are four ways that God handles sin:
1. He punishes for the sake of justice.
2. He disciplines for the sake of love.
3. He scares for the sake of love.
4. He removes the object of sin, because it serves a purpose contrary to his plans.
I doubt corruption in the Church would serve to bring more people to Christ.
1. He punishes for the sake of justice.
2. He disciplines for the sake of love.
3. He scares for the sake of love.
4. He removes the object of sin, because it serves a purpose contrary to his plans.
I doubt corruption in the Church would serve to bring more people to Christ.
How has the Catholic Church survived God's punishment for so long? *trollface* 
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God is very merciful
there are many who have a good heart
he knows what he is doing
If God pulls up all the tares, some wheat would be lost
a good heart is someone
who wants to do right
who would
choose right despite death threats
despite loss of business.
Despite loss of citizenship, like Paul
there are many who have a good heart
he knows what he is doing
If God pulls up all the tares, some wheat would be lost
a good heart is someone
who wants to do right
who would
choose right despite death threats
despite loss of business.
Despite loss of citizenship, like Paul
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hello im new to this site but I saw your topic so I decided to click on it. yea that was a powerful story.. honestly is the best way see that was lieing and God already knew that they were but. I think when Peter asked them a chance came about to be honest and say I did not do what we were supposed to do. that's why they dropped dead because they lie to God God's spirit and God's servant Peter. God bless you
Here is the principle
Deu 19:16 If a false witness rises against any man to testify against him of wrongdoing,
Deu 19:17 then both men in the controversy shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges who serve in those days.
Deu 19:18 And the judges shall make careful inquiry, and indeed, if the witness is a false witness, who has testified falsely against his brother,
Deu 19:19 then you shall do to him as he thought to have done to his brother; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
Deu 19:20 And those who remain shall hear and fear, and hereafter they shall not again commit such evil among you.
Deu 19:16 If a false witness rises against any man to testify against him of wrongdoing,
Deu 19:17 then both men in the controversy shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges who serve in those days.
Deu 19:18 And the judges shall make careful inquiry, and indeed, if the witness is a false witness, who has testified falsely against his brother,
Deu 19:19 then you shall do to him as he thought to have done to his brother; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
Deu 19:20 And those who remain shall hear and fear, and hereafter they shall not again commit such evil among you.
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I noticed this vow, and the lie, wasn't to Peter, but to the Holy Spirit. What the other two agreed upon in privet, Peter would have no way of knowing what they did. But, just like Acts 2, the Holy Spirit told Peter what they did, and caused Peter to talk to those two the way he did.
Part of God's work you can see right there, ( through the leading of His Spirit ) sometimes calls for people to be put in their place. And we saw the result. Even in the trouble that the two caused, there was some good that came from it, because the others standing nearby saw and reported what happened.
Part of God's work you can see right there, ( through the leading of His Spirit ) sometimes calls for people to be put in their place. And we saw the result. Even in the trouble that the two caused, there was some good that came from it, because the others standing nearby saw and reported what happened.
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I hear people today say how the Holy Spirit told them to do or say things; but the fact of the matter is it was fabricated from their own thoughts.
Acts 5:4 "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."
We can see Peter says, who they lied to. Also this is a idea of the boldness of a real man of God doing God's work and bidding. When God's says it's going to happen; it will just like He said it is.
Acts 5:4 "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God."
We can see Peter says, who they lied to. Also this is a idea of the boldness of a real man of God doing God's work and bidding. When God's says it's going to happen; it will just like He said it is.
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Hmm in the King James Version it say that Ananias and Sapphira "gave up the ghost" instead of gave their last breath. I always thought perhaps they might have given up on their own lives when they were confronted with their deeds by Peter and perished thus. Who really knows though? Remember though what the Lord takes He can also give back and what He has given only He has the right to take. Even these two will be raised again, but the Lord knows what happened so I guess those two will find out on the Resurrection and God will judge justly.
I will have to check out other bible accounts of this too, always interesting in the wording of different versions.
I will have to check out other bible accounts of this too, always interesting in the wording of different versions.
@4enlightment a good parallel of the saying! So this might further imply that Ananias and Sapphira themselves gave up their "ghost" or spirit or soul or whatever word we have for it on their own will, not God killing them as alledged. Either they themselves gave up on the Holy Spirit or died of their shame and perhaps they may find salvation still, but that's for God to decide in the end. Kinda makes you wonder if this very question itself was what troubled the other witnesses to it as the same chapter also describe. Either way I'd recommend even reading the whole chapter, the Apostles/Disciples later go on to heal a bunch of people en masse.