Manifest Sons of God doctrine

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Simiel

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GodIsSalvation said:
I don't attend any churches of stone. I have just tried to make my church the people and my preacher the Bible.
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Ah I did that for quite a while. Learned the bible on my own with Holy Spirit :)
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
By your statements and the statements you have supported on here you have thus questioned his belief in Jesus. Which is forgivable, but please understand Simiel does believe in Jesus. How many times must he tell you all? And this isn't a message just directed to you personally but to everyone here.

I'm sorry I just feel like I am watching a modern day version of the stoning of Stephen and I don't like feeling like I'm holding your coats. Please forgive me, and forgive yourselves. Let's all learn more about Jesus. Simiel has a lot to offer us in this regard, we all have a lot to learn about Jesus and teach eachother about Jesus. So isn't that what we should do?
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if he is a demon with false teachings with no hope of salvation then yea i might stone him, but if he is just a really crazy and mistaken i still might throw a few stones try and hit him in the head and make his thinking right or at least make him go away
 
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wanderer6059 said:
if he is a demon with false teachings with no hope of salvation then yea i might stone him, but if he is just a really crazy and mistaken i still might throw a few stones try and hit him in the head and make his thinking right or at least make him go away
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
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Simiel said:
If you fellas don't mind me asking. What is your denomination? Or the denomination of the church you go to?
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i'm on a mission trip across country with two pastors, i have been to many churches many denominations. i am studying to be a pastor myself. every day i live is for my God.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
I don't attend any churches of stone. I have just tried to make my church the people and my preacher the Bible.
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yea God lets His flock wander all alone ready to be attacked by the evils of this world, makes sense..... go to church its about growth and accountability and so when you have crazy thoughts like simiel older and wiser Christians can tell you you are wrong
 
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wanderer6059 said:
yea God lets His flock wander all alone ready to be attacked by the evils of this world, makes sense..... go to church its about growth and accountability and so when you have crazy thoughts like simiel older and wiser Christians can tell you you are wrong
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Ah well you see unfortunately your churches of stone have turned into what Jesus prophesied they would become. This is why I do not like them too much.

The Bible has been my preacher so if you count me mislead you must say the Bible mislead me. The Holy Spirit a better teacher as Simiel said though and I admit he is correct. This is what I am seeking for and seeking to bring people to. Though as Simiel somehow knew, my Zeal is a bit too strong for I see what is happening on this Earth and where it is going.
 
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No doubt as the more time you spend with Christ (in the word) the more wicked you will see yourself in the flesh in light of the righteousness of Christ. Paul went from the least of the apostles, to the least of the saints, to the number one chief sinner before God. True, biblical people will "beat on the breast" while saying, "God be merciful unto me, a sinner" Thank the Almighty Father God of Heaven and His most righteous and Holy Son Jesus the Christ for grace and mercy!
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This excellent post has to be repeated as it is an image of the fully mature follower of Christ. The more spiritually mature one becomes, the more he or she will understand just how deep the sin goes within 'self'.

Paul went so far as to say he's wretched because "to will" is within him. Yes we follow God, love God, submit to God, but we still have our own wills. We will still want God to do things that He doesn't or isn't planing on doing. This is seen in Paul on multiple occasions. This is why I struggle to grasp where Cobus and Simiel come from because they hold their wills on a parallel with God's. As if we have God's power to just heal people in shopping malls, or claim we haven't sinned in years. I understand their gravity to embracing the "new man" as we do, but he is not yet to come. We are headed toward him, of course, but he cannot be obtained in our fleshly bodies until The Lord comes and brings His glory to our forms.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
I have read the context of the verses he's posted and you've posted. He has in fact kept them in context.

Where has Simiel stated that Jesus was not God? I have not seen him claim this once. I have seen you claim he said that, but I have not seen him claim it himself.

That's because you ignored

And its not about him taking one or two verses but the fact he has taken many verses that all fit in context to what he's saying and fit into the larger context of the Bible story. I've read the Bible I know what it's point is. Simiel is correct and you are wrong. You are just too hardhearted to admit it. Look I admitted it when I questioned him. I even admitted I have more to learn. So let's learn together and let's all get closer to Jesus is my opinion.

This stoning of Stephen has to stop man. I can't bear to watch it anymore.
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Simiel is correct and we are wrong?

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I will say again.. Jesus was a God in heaven but He left all his heavenly divine Godly power in heaven when He walk the earth... The Holy Spirit empowered him to do all things.. Yes we can do the same thing because his disciples did also and they was fully man.
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There's no I'm right and your wrong or your right an I'm wrong.. Jesus is right and Truth
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Ah well you see unfortunately your churches of stone have turned into what Jesus prophesied they would become. This is why I do not like them too much.

The Bible has been my preacher so if you count me mislead you must say the Bible mislead me. The Holy Spirit a better teacher as Simiel said though and I admit he is correct. This is what I am seeking for and seeking to bring people to. Though as Simiel somehow knew, my Zeal is a bit too strong for I see what is happening on this Earth and where it is going.
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no there are good churches you just have to find them i have seen evil in churches and God Himself in some. do not go it alone the devil wants you to do that because thats when he puts 1% of a lie in your head and you end up lost like simiel
 
Simiel

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wanderer6059 said:
no there are good churches you just have to find them i have seen evil in churches and God Himself in some. do not go it alone the devil wants you to do that because thats when he puts 1% of a lie in your head and you end up lost like simiel
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1% lie and 99% percent truth... Seems like a pretty good ratio to me :) thanks for the compliment brother your to kind
 
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Simiel said:
There's no I'm right and your wrong or your right an I'm wrong.. Jesus is right and Truth
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yeah and you deny He was 100% God in the flesh while on earth so you are rejecting His truth
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
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EDIT: as for Bill Johnson, unless I am mistaking him for Bill Cooper, you're not missing much besides just a confused scholar.

EDIT2: actually just google searched him and it turns out Bill Johnson is some other guy I never seen before. Kudos for the research tip Arwen I will look into this guy to determine him for myself.
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GodIsSalvation said:
Just to jump in here. I have seen people mention this so-called "Charismatic" movement on here. What exactly is it suppose to be? Never heard of it before myself.
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GodIsSalvation said:
@Praus lol and I am thinking the word Kundalini should be setting off hinduism/buddhism alarm bells to me lol. But I guess I'll check it out anyways, thanks for the resource.
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@Arwen and Praus Yes I am quite familiar with their demonism and such lol. From my understanding the Kundalini is a hindu/buddhist concept of a serpent (curious choice for them to believe it is a serpent) that is anchored in their spine that they believe they can force to use during meditation and yoga and all that sorta stuff. Not sure if I should call it just plain hokey or demonic, but I have noticed in my research how the people that get real into that stuff all seem to talk about some very similar characters that tell some very similar lies to them lol.

This is also how I know Simiel is not preaching a demonic doctrine. All that I have seen him say so far in various topics is pretty extraordinary actually and is in fact Scripturally sound and in accordance with Jesus and the rigorous Bible tests. Not saying you gotta go out and practice this stuff because I myself am kinda unsure of myself too and want to learn more first, but I gotta say this stuff Simiel is telling us and some of the healers he has shown us (ie: Pete Cabrera Jr) is pretty cool. Even from a skeptic and a Biblical supernaturalist point of view I have to say this stuff from what I have seen and weighed so far fits the Bible's definitions and tests for legit "miracles."
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Aren't you being a bit untruthful here? Feigning innocence and lack of knowledge on certain topics but you're able to defend your friend on these very claims?
 
Simiel

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Run GodIsSalvation or we will be stoned together lol
 
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wanderer6059 said:
no there are good churches you just have to find them i have seen evil in churches and God Himself in some. do not go it alone the devil wants you to do that because thats when he puts 1% of a lie in your head and you end up lost like simiel
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I'm not alone.

How do you know what Satan wants? I know what Satan wants, I read the Bible from cover to cover. I am not concerned with what that stupid worm, the stupidest of all beings in the universe wants. I am more concerned with learning about what the ultimate intellect, Jesus, wants.
 
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Simiel said:
1% lie and 99% percent truth... Seems like a pretty good ratio to me :) thanks for the compliment brother your to kind
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its not a compliment its a death sentence, that small corruption leads to death. there is no 99% with the Lord, He is infallible. so if you saw your words have even 1% of a lie you are not of God, He is not with you, your words are not the truth. you just admitted you are not a Christian, why are you hear?
 
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