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PlainLo

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What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.
 
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PlainLo said:
What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.
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Question 1: There is more to life than sexual attraction.

Question 2: So either A, Any Love is love or B, a book determines what love is.... Neither?

Question 3: See question one. I would posit that sexual attraction is only a tiny fraction of what constitutes love. Basically we do not equate sexual attraction or orientation with the foundation for love.


The Christian tradition stemming from the time of Christ to before, through to the time of Moses and even Abraham and Lot and even Noah, is that believers in God are to set themselves apart in their behavior and lifestyle. We are not to get involved with LGBT stuff.



Whatever non-Christians do is their business. A person who believes must count the cost of what it means to be a Christian, and if he cannot let go of it, he will have no part of the Kingdom.



Am I condemning them? No. I cannot hold other people accountable to my standards and the standards of my people and my God.


My obligation to them is to spread the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the death and resurrection of Christ, the forgiveness of sins and the repentance unto salvation. Thats it.


Like the 4 kinds of soil, what they do with this is entirely beyond my control.
 
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What is your view on LGBT couples?
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Unbiblical, outside the revealed with of God in the Bible.

Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is?
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The Bible defines love.
Of course people can come up with their own terms, but that's kinda what got us in this sin problem in the first place.

If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
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I have no idea.
Hopefully I'd have enough revelation from God's word to know that the desire is wrong, and I'd ask God to help me conform my desires to His.
 
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PlainLo said:
What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.
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The two above pretty much have summed up my opinions on the first couple questions perfectly.

I'm heterosexual, but i've been attracted to someone that was my own gender. She looked exactly like a guy and i had to remind myself a lot she wasn't. Just because i was attracted to this person though didn't mean i had to act on it.
Our culture is all about doing what feels right, but just because it feels right doesn't mean it is right.
Just because someone says it's love doesn't mean it is love.
That book you refer to tells us what the definition of love is, and that book also tells us homosexuality is wrong. Whether you believe it or not is your choice.
Your 16 and a lot of different messages are being thrown at you. I can imagine it is very difficult for you to decipher what is right and wrong.
 
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Hi,
Good question. Due to the fact that I am a Chrisitian, I believe that God and His word are one. If the Bible does not condone that type of behavior; I as a Bible believing Christian can't condone it. When we deny the truth of God's word, we are denying him.
 
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What is your view on LGBT couples?
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My view? I'm not sure I understand your question. I'm betting it has something to do with whether I hold irrational prejudice or bias again these people because they're LBGT or hate them or want to cause them harm and, of course, the answer is no. In my regard, they're just people and I believe most Christians in USA hold no ill will to any God's creatures.

Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is?
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Yes, I do. God of Israel's Word, our Bible is the Book and God is love. God is the ultimate catch-all of the diversity of love. I won't go into the various kinds of love, but I think it would be safe to say that love CAN be love, but there is love that turns out not to be love at all.

If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
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Not to be glib, but if I were attracted to a person of the same sex, I would be something other than heterosexual.

Look. There's been a ton of discussion about this subject - people just waiting like hungry wolves to pounce on gay-hating Christians - and honestly, you might find somebody that does that. You might find a lot of Christians like that; it's something I've even struggled with before because I'm just stupid. But the point is that when we become part of this brotherhood we call Christianity, we become convicted and understand those things God finds offensive. It's a strong conviction and it becomes painful for us to see a brother or sister in Christ who delves in those things offensive to God. It hurts my heart when I know a brother is walking a wide road to certain damnation - I want to grab him by the shirt and shake him!

But it does no good. If you, my loving Sister in Christ - you, Bride of Christ, are not convicted by the Grace of God, God's freely given pain on the cross, then my grabbing you by the shirt and shaking you causes you only to run from me and to think I hate you, when I don't. But I can't - NOT warn you.

So it's a dilemma to love the sinner and hate the sin. We Christians struggle with how we portray that dilemma daily. Some try to love the sinner and accept the sin, but I can't love without being concerned about the welfare! Not with this conviction.

So - it's a struggle.
 
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I believe most Christians in USA hold no ill will to any God's creatures.
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Great post, except I must take exception with this. Most southern Christians have a thing or two to say about this guy right here: :D
 
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To PlainLo: I hope these folks have answered your questions, and if you have any others please ask. God bless.
 
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PlainLo

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For the first of all, even though I love to fight with angry anti-gay christians, that's not what I'm looking for, then I could have might as well search for them in the Facebook commentary fields. I honestly don't know what normal Christians from the US(although there's not only members from US on this site, the most of you are) think about LBGT rights.
I wrote consider and by that I mean that at the time before you found yourself attracted to the person felt like a heterosexual.
Thank you for your opinions.
 
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PlainLo

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Thank you all for your opinions :)
 
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PlainLo said:
For the first of all, even though I love to fight with angry anti-gay christians, that's not what I'm looking for, then I could have might as well search for them in the Facebook commentary fields. I honestly don't know what normal Christians from the US(although there's not only members from US on this site, the most of you are) think about LBGT rights.
I wrote consider and by that I mean that at the time before you found yourself attracted to the person felt like a heterosexual.
Thank you for your opinions.
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Why do you think it's okay?

Is it because your culture and the people around you tell you it's okay?

I'm not very familiar with life in Sweden, but it seems that there is a lot of pressure from the culture to hate Christians at any chance.
 
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PlainLo said:
For the first of all, even though I love to fight with angry anti-gay christians, that's not what I'm looking for, then I could have might as well search for them in the Facebook commentary fields.....
Thank you for your opinions.
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You are welcome. Also, fair warning, you will see some angry anti-gay Christians on this site. I think it's best to ignore them. But if you really want a fight, post in the news forum ;) -JIM
 
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i have no problem with homosexual people, most of them want nothing to do with christianity at this point in their lives(which i can kinda understand if id been treated that way for the past 20-30 years), so them living a lifestyle that doesnt conform to scripture doesnt bother me at all. I see it no differently as my straight friends who have premarital sex with their live-in girlfriends.
Im not even sure if there is a set definition of love. I love my family in a different way than I love my friends which is a different way than I love romantically. With the multitudes of forms of love, I cant say two people cant actually ibe in love if they say they are.
I'm mean I've found guys attractive, but not in the oh I wanna make out with you and or go on a date way. Its more like wow...thats a nice looking guy. I guess same way women can find other women beautiful. Its not sexual its just appreciative.
 
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This is a big sin that is clearly mentioned in the bible. I think the problem with this specific sin is Pride and Acceptance by the society. These people are proud of being like that and the society is backing them up, giving them several rights.

God wants the humble who admits their sins and are ready to repent. But to be proud of your sin!!!!


PlainLo said:
What is your view on LGBT couples? Do you believe that any love is love or that a book determines what love really is? If you consider yourself heterosexual, how would you react if you found yourself attracted to a person of the same gender?
I'm asking out of curiosity, in Sweden the most christians are very accepting but I haven't ever spoken to an actual christian from any other country about these things.
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Hate the SIN, love the sinner.
 
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Well, it looks like Sweden has circled back to its pagan roots. Hail the All Father.
 
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