Already read it. Here is a question for you, why do you ASSUME that because I believe I should obey the Law, that I think that I am justified by the Law? In actuality, I think no such thing.
Keeping of the Sabbath for NT?
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Already read it. Here is a question for you, why do you ASSUME that because I believe I should obey the Law, that I think that I am justified by the Law? In actuality, I think no such thing.
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chubbena
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Justification aside. Do you think one has to at least try, if not perfectly, to keep the law because of love for God and for His people?
What is your understanding on Sabbath? Is it some monstrous law God gave which was so hard for the Israelites to bear?
Do you enjoy a paid holiday freely provided by your earthly employer?
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments (except that nasty ole fourth one).
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments (not really, I am only kidding). And His commandments are not burdensome (they're bloody awful).
You know what? I don't really like your game and I have a feeling that God doesn't either...
Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, "Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?"
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
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chubbena
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How about Sabbath is the gift of God so the creation, whether the free or the slaves, can rest with Him?
Satan accusations against God have always been:
He thinks the ten commandments are not needed.
god says they are
Jesus did not die so that the ten commandments would be removed that is his law of love for eternity
no man will be saved without sanctification.
He thinks the ten commandments are not needed.
god says they are
Jesus did not die so that the ten commandments would be removed that is his law of love for eternity
no man will be saved without sanctification.
1 Pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit,
unto obedience
and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
unto obedience
and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Bad children always forget the obedience, don't they?
no disobedient children are going to heaven
the false gospel teachers should go home and tell their children:
Jesus died for you,
so there are no more rules in this house, do what you want
the grace of God will automatically turn you children into obedient children!
LOL
go try it and see what happens to your children, how they grow up to be prison inmates.
Then, when that fails go back to teaching the children the law of God
no disobedient children are going to heaven
the false gospel teachers should go home and tell their children:
Jesus died for you,
so there are no more rules in this house, do what you want
the grace of God will automatically turn you children into obedient children!
LOL
go try it and see what happens to your children, how they grow up to be prison inmates.
Then, when that fails go back to teaching the children the law of God
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OK, now would you say the same thing about murder? Adultery? Taking the name of God in vain? You free from these also?
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KittenofMelchisedek
Guest
So like the enemy to list a hundred things you wont be able to do if you follow the Lord. No fellowship BBQ???? Screw that!!
please...
you have freedom in Christ to have a fellowship BBQ on Saturday
does that make it any less the Sabbath?
NO
Also, any one who tries to take the law and separate it or change it in any way is playing with fire.
Yahshua and I are yoked together, we are become one flesh, by his spirit I follow the laws that apply to me, and for my soul He fulfills the laws that apply to him. We don't throw out the "ceremonial laws" because to do that would be to throw out the offering of the perfect Lamb.
Also, Jesus proclaimed it to be lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath and lists a bunch of things that are works of righteousness and not of flesh, so obviously he want's us to observe the Sabbath. To say that you don't have to listen to the teachings and follow the example of Christ because he hadn't died yet is blasphemy my friend, you might want to revisit that theory, just sayin you know, a curse on me if I don't warn you.
The law is to REMEMBER the Sabbath, to keep it HOLY. If you have an option to take upon you a sign of the living God and you choose not to, that is your fruit. God said to set him as a seal upon your heart, your heart that he writes his laws on, your heart that he rebuilds into his temple if you let him. If you don't feel it, than it would seem your purpose here is to confound people who are trying to follow the Lord, by confusing them with ignorance and scaring them with death and a lack of fellowship bbq's. Come out from the spirit that would use you as a false prophet and accept the real spirit of prophecy, which is Jesus Christ.
please...
you have freedom in Christ to have a fellowship BBQ on Saturday
does that make it any less the Sabbath?
NO
Also, any one who tries to take the law and separate it or change it in any way is playing with fire.
Yahshua and I are yoked together, we are become one flesh, by his spirit I follow the laws that apply to me, and for my soul He fulfills the laws that apply to him. We don't throw out the "ceremonial laws" because to do that would be to throw out the offering of the perfect Lamb.
Also, Jesus proclaimed it to be lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath and lists a bunch of things that are works of righteousness and not of flesh, so obviously he want's us to observe the Sabbath. To say that you don't have to listen to the teachings and follow the example of Christ because he hadn't died yet is blasphemy my friend, you might want to revisit that theory, just sayin you know, a curse on me if I don't warn you.
The law is to REMEMBER the Sabbath, to keep it HOLY. If you have an option to take upon you a sign of the living God and you choose not to, that is your fruit. God said to set him as a seal upon your heart, your heart that he writes his laws on, your heart that he rebuilds into his temple if you let him. If you don't feel it, than it would seem your purpose here is to confound people who are trying to follow the Lord, by confusing them with ignorance and scaring them with death and a lack of fellowship bbq's. Come out from the spirit that would use you as a false prophet and accept the real spirit of prophecy, which is Jesus Christ.
Lets not be ridiculous my friend.
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
Those who fellowship barbecue on Sabbath have not fallen in love with Jesus
If you had a chance to meet Obama for lunch on Sabbath and you choose to stay home and barbecue
that means you dont like Obama
If you had a chance to meet Obama for lunch on Sabbath and you choose to stay home and barbecue
that means you dont like Obama
Please do not misunderstand me my friends if a person who loves Christ wants to worship on Saturday that's great. If a person who loves Christ wants to worship on Sunday that's great too.
The important thing above all is we are born again through the precious body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The point I'm trying to make here for everyone is some are implying if you don't worship on Saturday you are lost.
The important thing above all is we are born again through the precious body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The point I'm trying to make here for everyone is some are implying if you don't worship on Saturday you are lost.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
you are not worshipping God when you do it your way
If I want to meet queen elizabeth, I will do it my way and my dressing and my behaviour
well, you are not going to be allowed to meet the queen
Problem is there is no more reverance
god of universe who created you says he blessed a time to meet with him
and you want it your way
he will not be there when you go he said so
If I want to meet queen elizabeth, I will do it my way and my dressing and my behaviour
well, you are not going to be allowed to meet the queen
Problem is there is no more reverance
god of universe who created you says he blessed a time to meet with him
and you want it your way
he will not be there when you go he said so
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Karraster
Guest
try that attitude with the Pope
one president came with a light colored suit
they wouldnt let him in
even satan demands respect.
but God you can do what you want?
that is really sad
you need to read your bible
reverence
one president came with a light colored suit
they wouldnt let him in
even satan demands respect.
but God you can do what you want?
that is really sad
you need to read your bible
reverence
(Lev 19:30 KJV) Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
(Lev 26:2 KJV) Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
(2 Sam 9:6 KJV) Now when Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, was come unto David, he fell on his face, and did reverence. And David said, Mephibosheth. And he answered, Behold thy servant!
(1 Ki 1:31 KJV) Then Bathsheba bowed with her face to the earth, and did reverence to the king, and said, Let my lord king David live for ever.
(Est 3:2 KJV) And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate, bowed, and reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence.
(Est 3:5 KJV) And when Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence, then was Haman full of wrath.
(Psa 89:7 KJV) God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.
(Mat 21:37 KJV) But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
(Mark 12:6 KJV) Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.
No they won't they will go barbecue and have a party
(Luke 20:13 KJV) Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.
No they will meet on another day
(Heb 12:9 KJV) Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
They will come when they are good and ready...
(Heb 12:28 KJV) Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
if we feel like it...
no wonder God is going to destroy the planet
incredible
(Lev 26:2 KJV) Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
(2 Sam 9:6 KJV) Now when Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, was come unto David, he fell on his face, and did reverence. And David said, Mephibosheth. And he answered, Behold thy servant!
(1 Ki 1:31 KJV) Then Bathsheba bowed with her face to the earth, and did reverence to the king, and said, Let my lord king David live for ever.
(Est 3:2 KJV) And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate, bowed, and reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence.
(Est 3:5 KJV) And when Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence, then was Haman full of wrath.
(Psa 89:7 KJV) God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of all them that are about him.
(Mat 21:37 KJV) But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
(Mark 12:6 KJV) Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.
No they won't they will go barbecue and have a party
(Luke 20:13 KJV) Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.
No they will meet on another day
(Heb 12:9 KJV) Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
They will come when they are good and ready...
(Heb 12:28 KJV) Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
if we feel like it...
no wonder God is going to destroy the planet
incredible