One-Third Of Millennials Have Left Their Religion Because Of Anti-Gay Policies

[David_1]

Instead of bringing people to the Gospels, Right Wingers are turning a generation away in droves because of their Big Government policies of hating on one particular sinner. Desperately wanting the Government to police people's individual's lives, is driving away young people who believe in Liberty. Unable to point to a single passage in the Gospels that commands big government to police homosexuals, Right Wing fanatics are being perceived as massive hypocrites.

The curious and bizarre emphasis only on Homosexuals and abortion, two things that are easily used as a political pawn for Republicans, is literally destroying Christianity from within.

One-Third Of Millennials Have Left Their Religion Because Of Anti-Gay Policies: Survey

 

[SonInMe]

Ignorance.

Conservatism despises big government.

The bible is against homosexuality, not conservative christians. T'would be pure perversion of scripture to support any version of homosexuality.

Homosexuality and abortion are two huge issues facing the morality of the world. Thats where the enemy has made its stand. Its where we fight as well.

I see bigotry and hatred are still alive in the liberal ideal. Try again later when you have an inkling of biblical support for your rants and idiocies.

 

[David_1]

I see bigotry and hatred are still alive in the liberal ideal. Try again later when you have an inkling of biblical support for your rants and idiocies.

Nice try. Nice try. I see what you did there.

Kinda hard to lecture me about Hatred, when you spew so much for your fellow man. That hatred is turning away so many young people from the church, as the evidence shows.

 

[TheAristocat]

I think we have to understand what's turning them away from Christianity. The Christian God is against sin, and so it behooves all Christians likewise to be against sin - whether that be hate of their fellow man, homosexual practices, bearing false witness, theft, murder, false religions, etc. I think it's important to hate the sin but not the sinner. And I think some people can mistakenly connect a vocal hating of the sin to a hating of the sinner who is alright with the sin. It's a fine line I'll admit, but those who claim the right wingers are hating on anyone are probably in most cases bearing false witness against those who merely hate the sin.

So what's turning modern Man away from Christianity? It could just be modern Man. Secular society sees homosexual behavior as acceptable. But God will never accept it as part of his Creation. If that turns modern Man away from Christianity, then so be it. God is kind of a packaged deal. Can't accept some aspects of his personality and throw out the rest. If you don't want him you don't have to choose him, know what I mean? I'd like secular society to embrace Christianity, but not at the risk of secularizing the Church and the Gospel.

 

[biscuit]

Instead of bringing people to the Gospels, Right Wingers are turning a generation away in droves because of their Big Government policies of hating on one particular sinner. Desperately wanting the Government to police people's individual's lives, is driving away young people who believe in Liberty. Unable to point to a single passage in the Gospels that commands big government to police homosexuals, Right Wing fanatics are being perceived as massive
hypocrites.

The curious and bizarre emphasis only on Homosexuals and abortion, two things that are easily used as a political pawn for Republicans, is literally destroying Christianity from within.

One-Third Of Millennials Have Left Their Religion Because Of Anti-Gay Policies: Survey

These Millennials left because they chose to and will be given a second chance during Tribulation. The Bible is not about religion or the church, it is about "faith in Jesus Christ." Just look around you and see how frustrated, depressed and bitter with their life. They left Christ and are paying a dear price for it. Jesus protects His faithful children during tough economic times.

 

[TheAristocat]

An example of what we're dealing with might help.

I've heard of a christian establishment refusing a wedding cake service to a homosexual couple on moral grounds. So let's take an example from my own life.

My mother is divorced and was going to marry someone other than my father. My older brother refused to attend on moral grounds. I attended her wedding. Later on it was found that the man she married was already married to another woman in a different state. Not only was the marriage void in God's eyes but - almost as if in order to drive the point home - it was void in the state's eyes. So what should I have done? Should I have attended her fake wedding that ended in adultery? Or should I have stayed home? Sometimes you can love someone with a tough love. And that tough love can help them. My mother, for obvious reasons, ended up not liking this man. So what did her marriage ceremony benefit her? Nothing. It probably hurt her.

I only feel free to reveal this information, because my mother is not on this site. But God almighty help me if she were.

 

[TheAristocat]

I think we have to understand what's turning them away from Christianity. The Christian God is against sin, and so it behooves all Christians likewise to be against sin - whether that be hate of their fellow man, homosexual practices, bearing false witness, theft, murder, false religions, etc. I think it's important to hate the sin but not the sinner. And I think some people can mistakenly connect a vocal hating of the sin to a hating of the sinner who is alright with the sin. It's a fine line I'll admit, but those who claim the right wingers are hating on anyone are probably in most cases bearing false witness against those who merely hate the sin.

So what's turning modern Man away from Christianity? It could just be modern Man. Secular society sees homosexual behavior as acceptable. But God will never accept it as part of his Creation. If that turns modern Man away from Christianity, then so be it. God is kind of a packaged deal. Can't accept some aspects of his personality and throw out the rest. If you don't want him you don't have to choose him, know what I mean? I'd like secular society to embrace Christianity, but not at the risk of secularizing the Church and the Gospel.

That said, you may have a point, David. I think Acts shows us that we can be tolerant of some behavior by not placing on new believers certain restrictions.

Acts 15:20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

But one of the restrictions that is placed on new believers, who are weak in the faith still, is abstaining from sexual immorality. And that involves homosexual practices as defined by God in the Torah.

 

[TheAristocat]

Also it's important to note that those new believers in Acts, while only given a few rules from the Bible (e.g. abstain from sexual immorality) and from the Jewish traditions of that time (e.g. abstain from food polluted by idols), were not expected to remain in such an infantile state of ignorance of holy conduct. They were to add to their knowledge to know how to better follow God as they matured in their faith. So even the allowances of the Holy Spirit are only temporary so as to first save from hell and secondly to instruct and build up. But sexual immorality does not seem to be among these allowances.

 

[SonInMe]

Nice try. Nice try. I see what you did there.

Kinda hard to lecture me about Hatred, when you spew so much for your fellow man. That hatred is turning away so many young people from the church, as the evidence shows.

''Right Wingers are turning a generation away in droves because of their Big Government policies of hating on one particular sinner. Desperately wanting the Government to police people's individual's lives, is driving away young people who believe in Liberty. Unable to point to a single passage in the Gospels that commands big government to police homosexuals, Right Wing fanatics are being perceived as massive hypocrites.''

Of course gross slander carries no vehemence whatsoever...right?

You do know every law is a moral definitive?

That liberalism is forcing itself upon america through presidential fiat not legislative law, right?

You also seem to think persuasion has an effect in witnessing, leaving out God. That's interesting.

Also, using the term Millennials seems to suggest they have a special revelation or that the bible is not relevant, and is outdated.

If preaching against homosexuality keeps the modern person from church then we are much closer to the end times than I thought.

By the way, the inference here is to not preach against homosexuality, the classic liberal ideal.....pssssst ( that's forcing your beliefs upon someone else )

hypocrite

 

[Desdichado]

The full report is more interesting:

A Shifting Landscape: A Decade of Change in American Attitudes about Same-Sex Marriage and LGBT Issues

 

[posthuman]

i sure am glad Jesus never commanded us to be involved in politics.

 

[Angela53510]

I think this article is very valid. I believe the Bible, and I do not in any way condone homosexuality.

But about 6 or 7 years ago, I was on some family marriage site on FB, and I found one young gay Christian woman being attacked by about 50 or 60 people, and it was UGLY! They were not nice, loving, or had any kindness. One person said she had made "homosexuality" her God. She replied that Jesus was her God, always had been and always would be.

I friended that woman, and tried to get to know her. Her father was a pastor, but somehow she fell in love with a woman. I don't understand that, but I tried to support her and get her to focus on Jesus. And to heal some deep, deep wounds. I don't know how successful I was, but I thought Christ wanted me to love her, not kick her when she was down.

Besides, the Bible mentions pride being a sin a lot more times than it mentions being gay, and how many people take it to court to stop people from having pride, or jealousy, or anger, for that matter?

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, [SUP]20 [/SUP]idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, [SUP]21 [/SUP]envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. " Gal. 5:19-21

So lots of things we get every day in that sin list, being equal to sexual immorality (A list like this, is not in order from top to bottom, they are all equally sinful in the eyes of God.)

From that day, I have tried to friend gay people and love them, and help them to know Christ. I will leave their repentance and lifestyle to God. I have said many times that the church is driving away millions in North America because of its obsession with homosexuality and to a lesser extent with keeping women in "their place."

I just know my DIL who is a doctor, would never attend a church where women are not allowed to do ministry. So that has driven her away from God. And for that matter, the issue of abortion and probably gays is an issue for her.

And don't come back and tell me the Bible says this. The Bible says to preach the gospel to the whole world, but instead, we pridefully sit on our backsides in Christian forums and condemn the very ones that Jesus died to save!

 

[biscuit]

I think this article is very valid. I believe the Bible, and I do not in any way condone homosexuality.

But about 6 or 7 years ago, I was on some family marriage site on FB, and I found one young gay Christian woman being attacked by about 50 or 60 people, and it was UGLY! They were not nice, loving, or had any kindness. One person said she had made "homosexuality" her God. She replied that Jesus was her God, always had been and always would be.

I friended that woman, and tried to get to know her. Her father was a pastor, but somehow she fell in love with a woman. I don't understand that, but I tried to support her and get her to focus on Jesus. And to heal some deep, deep wounds. I don't know how successful I was, but I thought Christ wanted me to love her, not kick her when she was down.

Besides, the Bible mentions pride being a sin a lot more times than it mentions being gay, and how many people take it to court to stop people from having pride, or jealousy, or anger, for that matter?

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, [SUP]20 [/SUP]idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, [SUP]21 [/SUP]envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. " Gal. 5:19-21

So lots of things we get every day in that sin list, being equal to sexual immorality (A list like this, is not in order from top to bottom, they are all equally sinful in the eyes of God.)

From that day, I have tried to friend gay people and love them, and help them to know Christ. I will leave their repentance and lifestyle to God. I have said many times that the church is driving away millions in North America because of its obsession with homosexuality and to a lesser extent with keeping women in "their place."

I just know my DIL who is a doctor, would never attend a church where women are not allowed to do ministry. So that has driven her away from God. And for that matter, the issue of abortion and probably gays is an issue for her.

And don't come back and tell me the Bible says this. The Bible says to preach the gospel to the whole world, but instead, we pridefully sit on our backsides in Christian forums and condemn the very ones that Jesus died to save!

Angela, the ball is in their court and they can choose with 'free will' to accept Jesus, instead of using religion, churches & pastors as excuses. How did I learn to accept Jesus? by reading the bible, researching the Word from various sources. I rarely get my input from churches, religion or pastors. And to be honest, I have very little respect for the three. It is really about faith more than anything else. Many people just don't feel comfortable around the religious world and they find & make every excuse to reject Jesus. And I assure you 99% of the these Millennials never read the whole OT & NT bibles, searching for meaning & answers about Jesus. It is just too easy to accept the secular world which has more hatred than religion. They will have to live with the consequences on Judgment Day.

 

[SonInMe]

The Truth of the bible is through Holy Spirit revelation, not study. Without God, the bible is a mystery.

You cannot be a practicing gay and be christian. The bible is very clear, unrepentive sin is impossible for a saved person.

I would not hit anyone over the head about their sin, but if asked about it, I would say it is a sin. Witnessing is always done in love.

Walking the walk is done, in Truth, with discipline and correction by the Holy Spirit...and at times, that can be painful. Humans do not take correction well, even if given in the best of terms.

The bottom line is homosexuality is a sin, cannot be condoned by any christian, in any form and if people today do not want to go to church because the bible says homosexuality is a sin...

good. The gate is narrow....obedience and submission to the will of God, is not a choice for christians....it is.

period

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Instead of bringing people to the real Jesus Christ of the Bible, left wingers are seeking to construct an apostate super church that corrupts God's Word to both foment gross immorality while simultaneously persecuting genuine Christians.

Desperately wanting the Government to severely persecute Christian businesses for refusing to violate their moral conscience and the normative morality of their Christian epistemology, they drive away young people from the genuine body of Christ into an apostate counterfeit while denying the genuine body of Christ liberty.

Unable to point to a single passage in the Gospels that commands big government to police Christian business owners for refusing to facilitate immoral activities and events, Left Wing fanatics are massive hypocrites.

The curious and bizarre emphasis only on genuinely moral people who reject immorality, Democrats are literally destroying Christianity from without.

Apostasy in the Christian church | signs | Pastor | church | bible | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Instead of bringing people to the Gospels, Right Wingers are turning a generation away in droves because of their Big Government policies of hating on one particular sinner. Desperately wanting the Government to police people's individual's lives, is driving away young people who believe in Liberty. Unable to point to a single passage in the Gospels that commands big government to police homosexuals, Right Wing fanatics are being perceived as massive hypocrites.

The curious and bizarre emphasis only on Homosexuals and abortion, two things that are easily used as a political pawn for Republicans, is literally destroying Christianity from within.

One-Third Of Millennials Have Left Their Religion Because Of Anti-Gay Policies: Survey

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

New King James Version (NKJV)

The Great Apostasy

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, [SUP]2 [/SUP]not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[SUP][a][/SUP] had come. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[SUP][b][/SUP] is revealed, the son of perdition,

 

[SonInMe]

No church I have ever attended said gay people were not allowed.....or any sinner for that matter.

You do know why God told us in Holy Scripture that homosexuality is a sin, right?

It wasn't because Moses and Paul were ''homophobes'', or some kind of backward ancient rednecks.

Its because...hold on to your hat....homosexuality...HURTS those who practice it.

It is not love to support actions that hurt those who do them.

Its not....but it is typically liberal.

I guess supporting homosexual agendas is better than the other alternative liberals embrace....go out and have all the sex you want to and if ya get pregnant....MURDER IT!

Now that...is compassionate liberalism

Wake up

 

[crossnote]

You can be as loving as you want to the youth, do all kinds of appeasement programs, gimmicks etc.,to 'get them in', but when it comes to the actual message of the Gospel this is what is usually the case...

John 3:19-21 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed.
But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.

 

[Percepi]

Ignorance.

Conservatism despises big government.

Conservatives LOVE big government, as long as it doesn't intrude too heavily in the marketplace. Conservatives have no problem with big government when it comes to policing social politics.

Homosexuality and abortion are two huge issues facing the morality of the world. Thats where the enemy has made its stand. Its where we fight as well.

The thing is, two homosexuals being together doesn't effect your life in any way, shape, or form. There's this thing called the non-coercion principle. We can't have the government outlawing homosexuality. Is homosexuality a sin? Perhaps, but it shouldn't be the government that FORCES people not to partake in such acts - it should be the choice of the individuals. If people want to sin, let them, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others.

Abortion is different, because it effects the life of a fetus who doesn't have a say. So there is an argument to make abortions illegal.

I see bigotry and hatred are still alive in the liberal ideal. Try again later when you have an inkling of biblical support for your rants and idiocies.

You can not make laws based on Scripture. It's unconstitutional per the First Amendment.

I believe churches have the right to refuse service to homosexuals as well as practice freedom of speech. However, it's wrong for the government to outlaw homosexuality, since homosexuality happens between two consenting persons. Again, homosexuality may be a sin - but the government can't force people not to sin, it can only force people not to infringe on the rights of others.

 

[David_1]

You can be as loving as you want to the youth, do all kinds of appeasement programs, gimmicks etc.,to 'get them in', but when it comes to the actual message of the Gospel this is what is usually the case...

John 3:19-21 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed.
But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.

It's a bit more complicated than that, as you know. I personally know many struggling Christians who left the faith because of the Right Wing culture war.

People can and do get turned away from God by other people. Jesus warned about this, and said he will judge people harshly who turn away the young ones.

I just hope that some people here soften their approach.