And Your Denomination Is ... ?

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Shava

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So what denomination have you chosen?

And if you haven't chosen a denomination, please don't say "non-denominational"; instead, give the name of your church and a short summary of your beliefs.

[lol since this particular topic isn't as apparently incitive as my other threads have been, I don't believe it will get many responses. But I'm bored, and interested in the diversity of the people here.]

I am a member of an Independent Baptist church :)

And you?
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I am a Christian and I am a member of the Church of Christ, Romans 16:16 , non instrumental. The Church of Christ was established in the year 33A.D. on the day of Pentecost. That's the day God added 3,000 souls to the Church of Christ. Jesus said he would build his church, Matthew 16:18. We believe that if you fail to worship according to the bible, which includes the Churches of Christ who have decided to add instruments in their worship, means they to are not worshipping as the bible commands. There can only be one church that Jesus built, that being the Church of Christ.
 
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"Only our denomination is going to heaven."



 
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DuchessAimee said:
Independent baptist is the same as non denominational. If you REALLY want to distinguish between doctrine try asking if someone is a dispensationalist or covenant theology believer.
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You are forgetting kingdom theology. It is based on "the gospel of the kingdom" (Matt. 4:23) the message taught by Jesus and the Bible writers. We who accept this gospel reject the false go-to-heaven gospel emphasized by the others. The popular phrase "go-to-heaven, get-to-heaven, going-to-heaven," etc.---is not in the Bible!

P.S., For those who do not know, the kingdom i.e., of God, of heaven, is the earthly based Christian theocracy that believers will inherit with Jesus on resurrection day. Read the kingdom parables in Matthew 13.
 
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Lol hard to answer this topic under the guidelines set. I just am familiar with history, people, philosophies, etc. Read the Bible between late 2012 to 2013 and it revolutionize my thinking totally, though I still have much to learn. Lol, can't say I attend or regularly attend any of these "denominations" or any church of stone really. So if CC counts as Christian fellowship/church, I guess this is the closest thing to my denomination, or at least my current concept of denominations.
 
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Lol hard to answer this topic under the guidelines set. I just am familiar with history, people, philosophies, etc. Read the Bible between late 2012 to 2013 and it revolutionize my thinking totally, though I still have much to learn. Lol, can't say I attend or regularly attend any of these "denominations" or any church of stone really. So if CC counts as Christian fellowship/church, I guess this is the closest thing to my denomination, or at least my current concept of denominations.
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The CoC is the church spoken of in the bible, I have yet to find any other church that coincides with the bible as does the CoC does. God doesn't accept denominations as that reflects diversity, where as the Churches of Christ are of unity, except now there are some Churches of Christ that have gone by the way side by allowing instruments in there worship as we the Churches of Christ that has NEVER allowed this to happen, and never will. You must love to attend unless you have a medical or mental problem that doesn't allow you to go, which would be understandable. So again, if your church isn't the church spoken of in the bible then you are worshipping in vain, and the only church that worships according to the bible is the Church of Christ. Study for yourself and see if this is true.
 
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Shava said:
The CoC is the church spoken of in the bible, I have yet to find any other church that coincides with the bible as does the CoC does. God doesn't accept denominations as that reflects diversity, where as the Churches of Christ are of unity, except now there are some Churches of Christ that have gone by the way side by allowing instruments in there worship as we the Churches of Christ that has NEVER allowed this to happen, and never will. You must love to attend unless you have a medical or mental problem that doesn't allow you to go, which would be understandable. So again, if your church isn't the church spoken of in the bible then you are worshipping in vain, and the only church that worships according to the bible is the Church of Christ. Study for yourself and see if this is true.
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Where do you find the name, "Church of Christ", in the phonebook? It is very clear to them that it is found in the yellow pages with all of the other denominations. And it does not make any difference whether they spell it with a little "c" or not.


And if you are not a Christian Denomination, then I am to assume you are not Christian at all.

As for the 33 A.D. bit, well unless you consider yourself an Orthodox Christian, I believe you will be hard pressed to find any evidence to support this claim predating Alexander Campbell.
 
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As for the 33 A.D. bit, well unless you consider yourself an Orthodox Christian, I believe you will be hard pressed to find any evidence to support this claim predating Alexander Campbell.
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Not even the Orthodox can claim it.
 
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So basically a group of people got together and called themselves "The church of Christ". Then they tell everyone they are the true church, because after all, "we're 'the church of Christ', and there is no other church than the church of Christ in the Bible."
 
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1still_waters said:
So basically a group of people got together and called themselves "The church of Christ". Then they tell everyone they are the true church, because after all, "we're 'the church of Christ', and there is no other church than the church of Christ in the Bible."
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Jesus built a church, Matthew 16:18, that church came to be in 33 A.D. Acts 2:38 This church was called the Church of Christ, Romans 16:16 Worshipping the way God has instructed all to worship is a major point, as you can see man has created so many churches that it's well over 36,000 churches, all man made, meaning they are not the church of the bible because they are worshipping the wrong way, if you were worshipping the right way, you would be then called the Church of Christ. Do you suppose Jesus built more than one church that worships differently than the one he built? No would be the answer.
 
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jimmydiggs said:
Not even the Orthodox can claim it.
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Actually it's quite easy to prove. Look in your bible and see how they worship and how it says in the bible how we're suppose to worship, it's that easy.
 
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Liamson said:
Where do you find the name, "Church of Christ", in the phonebook? It is very clear to them that it is found in the yellow pages with all of the other denominations. And it does not make any difference whether they spell it with a little "c" or not.


And if you are not a Christian Denomination, then I am to assume you are not Christian at all.

As for the 33 A.D. bit, well unless you consider yourself an Orthodox Christian, I believe you will be hard pressed to find any evidence to support this claim predating Alexander Campbell.
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Look under non denominational and you'll find it. The phone book isn't my source of validity, yours maybe, but not mine, I prefer the bible. Read the bible and compare how they worship, talking about the Orthodox Church compared to what and how the bible says to worship, it doesn't get any easier than that.
 
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The Church of Christ is not the sum of Ecclesia. It is not the Bride of Christ. It is not one of the Churches Jesus writes to in Revelation.

Someone is exploiting the Phrase "Church of Christ" warping it to mean only your denomination.

There is a lot of disingenuous circular reasoning going on here.

The Church of Christ was started by Alexander and Thomas Campbell, as a part of the beginning of the Restoration. The idea being to take Christianity back to before its creeds and councils, to its rawest form of only the Bible to establish Doctrine.

The irony is that the Bible was bound as we know it by the very councils this church disavows.

The Instrumental and noninstrumental split occurred in 1906.

Just because a denomination calls itself the Church of Christ, does not give it licence to Trademark all past present and future tense of that phase into its epistemology and identity. That is called historical revisionism.

And unless someone has some very narrow word association, they are not going to come to the conclusion that "Church of Christ" as it is written in the Bible refers solely to the Church of Christ non-instrumental, which has existed for less than 300 years.
 
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LIAMSON.....I too am a member of the coC. I want to try to reason with you from a common sence approach.

Do you believe The word of God when he said its the SEED? It will always be here. Its our blue print. Do you believe the RCC(roman catholic church) started just as they are today? Christ said he would build his church. Paul, Barnabus, Peter, Lidya, they were members of the church, RIGHT? The day of Penticost were added 3000 souls, then there were 5000 added, then Multitude's, do you think that was the end of the church? I don't. The Bible speaks of the dark ages. It also talks about forbidding to marry and not eating meats, correct? The seed was still around somewhere. These men simply saw where the need to do things bible ways, not adding to are taking away. If the church was buillt on the same princples as the congeration that Peter and Paul Worshiped at would it not be the same church?

If every congeration of the church of Christ just left the earth. In 3000 they found some writtings and they worshiped like we do now would they not be the church of Christ?

I hope and Pray you can see from my terriable writting what I am trying to explain to you.

I would like to say. We have been blessed to understand a simple plan. Where we in the church will miss the boat is not getting our message out. We have a huge responsibality to teach all nations. I pray you will be a part of that. We need people like you.

I have not said anything about doctrine of the Lords church. I just want you see there is the Lords church.

There are some good minds here, educated people, I am not. I got 5 years of High School. Equal to a 1 grader. My wife is a 2nd. grd. teacher and brought me home some 1 grd. work and I couldn't do it. So be nice to me!
 
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parablepete said:
LIAMSON.....I too am a member of the coC. I want to try to reason with you from a common sence approach.

Do you believe The word of God when he said its the SEED? It will always be here. Its our blue print. Do you believe the RCC(roman catholic church) started just as they are today? Christ said he would build his church. Paul, Barnabus, Peter, Lidya, they were members of the church, RIGHT? The day of Penticost were added 3000 souls, then there were 5000 added, then Multitude's, do you think that was the end of the church? I don't. The Bible speaks of the dark ages. It also talks about forbidding to marry and not eating meats, correct? The seed was still around somewhere. These men simply saw where the need to do things bible ways, not adding to are taking away. If the church was buillt on the same princples as the congeration that Peter and Paul Worshiped at would it not be the same church?

If every congeration of the church of Christ just left the earth. In 3000 they found some writtings and they worshiped like we do now would they not be the church of Christ?

I hope and Pray you can see from my terriable writting what I am trying to explain to you.

I would like to say. We have been blessed to understand a simple plan. Where we in the church will miss the boat is not getting our message out. We have a huge responsibality to teach all nations. I pray you will be a part of that. We need people like you.

I have not said anything about doctrine of the Lords church. I just want you see there is the Lords church.

There are some good minds here, educated people, I am not. I got 5 years of High School. Equal to a 1 grader. My wife is a 2nd. grd. teacher and brought me home some 1 grd. work and I couldn't do it. So be nice to me!
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I agree with you, but I don't think we agree with him.


In the same way that Thomas preached the gospel to India and formed churches there that lasted until the time of Muhammed, I agree.


But I don't believe that is THE Church of Christ Denomination, I believe it the Church Body.

I believe Christianity has always existed. But I don't believe that one group has a strangehold on Salvation based upon its interpretation of Instrumental worship.
 
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Liamson said:
I agree with you, but I don't think we agree with him.


In the same way that Thomas preached the gospel to India and formed churches there that lasted until the time of Muhammed, I agree.


But I don't believe that is THE Church of Christ Denomination, I believe it the Church Body.

I believe Christianity has always existed. But I don't believe that one group has a strangehold on Salvation based upon its interpretation of Instrumental worship.
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Liamson....So I am guessing you are Muslim? You mentioned two things that totally lost me. Thomas in India and Muhammed?? All I know is Bible. We could still use you.....:)
 
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The CoC is the church spoken of in the bible, I have yet to find any other church that coincides with the bible as does the CoC does. God doesn't accept denominations as that reflects diversity, where as the Churches of Christ are of unity, except now there are some Churches of Christ that have gone by the way side by allowing instruments in there worship as we the Churches of Christ that has NEVER allowed this to happen, and never will. You must love to attend unless you have a medical or mental problem that doesn't allow you to go, which would be understandable. So again, if your church isn't the church spoken of in the bible then you are worshipping in vain, and the only church that worships according to the bible is the Church of Christ. Study for yourself and see if this is true.
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Perhaps this will fall on deaf ears, yet I can't resist.
[h=3]Psalm 150[/h][SUP]1 [/SUP]Praise the Lord.


Praise God in his sanctuary;
praise him in his mighty heavens.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Praise him for his acts of power;
praise him for his surpassing greatness.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
[SUP]4[/SUP]praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.


[SUP]6 [/SUP]Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.

Praise the Lord."

Yet using instruments to worship God is somehow ungodly? Sheesh. Where did you guys get that idea from?
 
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Shava

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Donkeyfish07 said:
Perhaps this will fall on deaf ears, yet I can't resist.
Psalm 150

[SUP]1 [/SUP]Praise the Lord.


Praise God in his sanctuary;
praise him in his mighty heavens.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Praise him for his acts of power;
praise him for his surpassing greatness.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
[SUP]4[/SUP]praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.


[SUP]6 [/SUP]Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.

Praise the Lord."

Yet using instruments to worship God is somehow ungodly? Sheesh. Where did you guys get that idea from?
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From God. You are to go according to the New Testament, not the Old Testament. Ephesians 5:19 and Colossians 3:16 are the authorization for what God has commanded in the Christian age. Instruments were part of the O.T. but not the new. God is trying to be as spiritual as he can and that can only be without man made instruments. It's what God has commanded, and if you notice there isn't any mention of instruments in the N.T. scriptures. Read your bible, meaning the N.T. and you will know exactly what he wants in worship for us in the Christian age, and you will see it's not in the Mosaic era.
 
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Liamson said:
I agree with you, but I don't think we agree with him.


In the same way that Thomas preached the gospel to India and formed churches there that lasted until the time of Muhammed, I agree.


But I don't believe that is THE Church of Christ Denomination, I believe it the Church Body.

I believe Christianity has always existed. But I don't believe that one group has a strangehold on Salvation based upon its interpretation of Instrumental worship.
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Good morning, hope all is well. First of all we are not a denomination, as God prefers unity only. We are also self governing which proves we are not a denomination. The bible tells us of one church that Jesus built, when I say that I mean one church where worshipping and everything else in that church is done the way the bible says, not man, this is why you have so many false churches. I urge you to read starting in Acts 2 and throughout the rest of the New Testament and you will see that God has his way he wants things done, and that's the way it has to be done. The Churches of Christ adhere to exactly that, the bible, not man.
 
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