Call on the Name of the Lord be Saved?

[followjja]

You are a scholar, and yet, your thought flow seems a little jittery. Perhaps, you should humble yourself before you are made the fool by your own replies.

There is no verse where Paul repented, is there? Prove me wrong IF you can. LOL

followjja---follow just jesus always

 

[followjja]

Actually it's you who can not find................ And you have yet to answer my question..........what religion are you? You state you are not Christian............so that does beg the question...............you aren't ashamed of your religion are you?

followjja----follow just jesus always ___ That about does it.

 

[svedbygrace]

Verse 19 Restore us, Lord God Almighty;make your face shine on us,that we may be saved.

In order to believe in the Lord you first have to know about Him, and believe in his existence. You also have to admit you are a sinner that needs saving..

No lost person dead in sin can believe on Christ. The Gospel is hid to those who are lost and they believe not 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

So one must be saved in order to believe the Gospel !

 

[CRC]

How do We Call on God’s Name?
Quoting Joel 2:32, Paul declares: “Everyone who calls on the name of Yahweh will be saved.” (Romans 10:13) Calling on Yaweh’s name involves more than just knowing and using God’s personal name. (Isaiah 1:15) The context of Joel 2:32 stresses true repentance and trust in Yahweh’s forgiveness. (Joel 2:12, 13) Calling on God’s name implies truly coming to know him, trust him, obey him, and put him first in our life. Yes, serving Yahweh becomes our top priority. It involves accepting the pivotal role that Jesus plays in salvation. He is the “way”, “the truth”, and the “life”(John 14:6). Exercising faith in Jesus and following his example is a demonstration of “faith” in Yahweh. We thereby show appreciation for and acceptance of the greatest expression of God’s love for mankind in the giving of “His Only Begotten Son”(John 3:16). This opens the way for reconciliation and salvation. That, in turn, greatly contributes to a satisfying and lasting life, which is a blessing from God.—Matthew 6:33.

 

[p_rehbein]

followjja----follow just jesus always ___ That about does it.

ok, only problem is..............the disciples of Jesus the Christ are Christians..........you deny Christians, in so doing do you not deny Christianity? And, if you deny Christianity, do you not deny Christ?

I know there is a group out there in the world somewhere who are best described as "Paul haters." Those who believe Paul was a "false" Apostle........considering your comments on this and other threads, you appear to be a part of that group. That's what I am asking.............what is the name of this group who deny that Paul was an Apostle of Jesus Christ?

 

[SeaBass]

QUOTE FROM SEABASS:

Acts 2:21------------calls upon the name of the Lord>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saved
Acts 2:38-----------repent and be baptized>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remission of sins


"Saved" and "remission of sins" are equivalent. And since there is just one way to be saved then calling upon the name of the Lord is equivalent to repent and be baptized. Acts 22:16 when Saul (Paul) was baptized he was calling upon the name of the Lord.

In Rom 10:9,10 Paul says believing saves and confession saves.



Rom 10:9,10-------------believe and repent>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saves
Rom 10:13----------------call upon the name of the Lord>>>>>>saves

So calling upon the name of the Lord includes believng and confessing.

END QUOTE................

Not quite true............when Paul REPENTED he was calling upon the name of the Lord.......being baptized (water baptized) was acting IN OBEDIENCE to the commandment of Jesus.... Sins are remitted because of repentance, not because of water baptism.......Your own comments show this to be true......just saying.

Acts 22:16 arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Saul was calling on the name of the Lord when he was baptized.

Sins are remitted in baptism, Acts 2:38; Col 2:11:12, 1 Pet 3:21

 

[p_rehbein]

No lost person dead in sin can believe on Christ. The Gospel is hid to those who are lost and they believe not 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

So one must be saved in order to believe the Gospel !

......well.......yes, and no...........all who are now believers in and disciples of Christ were once "dead in our sins." Being called by God, brought under conviction by the Holy Spirit, and recognizing and BELIEVING that Jesus IS who He said He is....and with a sincere and contrite heart, bowing down, we confess our sins and ask Jesus to enter into our hearts........salvation was established by God the Father through God the Son for THE LOST WHO ARE DEAD IN THEIR SINS.

Jesus said as much Himself........more than once.

 

[p_rehbein]

Acts 22:16 arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Saul was calling on the name of the Lord when he was baptized.

Sins are remitted in baptism, Acts 2:38; Col 2:11:12, 1 Pet 3:21

well....................no....................BUT this is off topic............a completely different thread............soooooooo

Now, IF you want to have a discussion of Acts 2:38, water baptism and the role it plays in a Christians life, then you can start a new thread, and I will be happy to discuss it with you.

 

[p_rehbein]

There is no verse where Paul repented, is there? Prove me wrong IF you can. LOL

followjja---follow just jesus always

Yes, there are.........seems to me such a "scholar" as yourself would know what they are............

 

[Brother_Don]

repent means to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right.1: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life. 2 a: to feel regret or contrition. B:to change one's mind. according to webster Paul did repent, actions can speak louder than words.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

There is no verse where Paul repented, is there? Prove me wrong IF you can. LOL

Not that this verse is even needed, because repentance means "to turn away from sin". Paul was a pharisee at one point and persecuted Christians. He went from one of the Churches enemies to one of it's hardest laborers. He obviously repented because he turned away from the persecution he once engaged in and believed the gospel.


1 Timothy 1:13

Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

 

[p_rehbein]

Not that this verse is even needed, because repentance means "to turn away from sin". Paul was a pharisee at one point and persecuted Christians. He went from one of the Churches enemies to one of it's hardest laborers. He obviously repented because he turned away from the persecution he once engaged in and believed the gospel.


1 Timothy 1:13

Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

very true, but please understand that this person has no desire to accept Truth.........and will not recognize the truth in your comment...........just saying

 

[Donkeyfish07]

very true, but please understand that this person has no desire to accept Truth.........and will not recognize the truth in your comment...........just saying

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, how would we know what his desires are? I thought the original post was actually a good question

 

[followjja]

Not that this verse is even needed, because repentance means "to turn away from sin". Paul was a pharisee at one point and persecuted Christians. He went from one of the Churches enemies to one of it's hardest laborers. He obviously repented because he turned away from the persecution he once engaged in and believed the gospel.


1 Timothy 1:13

Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Well at least you did take some effort. When did Paul stop being a Pharisee?

Many years after his "conversion" Acts has Paul saying,

"Brothers I am a Pharisee a son of Pharisees." Acts 23:6

Those items you mentioned which many would consider sins, Paul had this to say in another letter of his:

"as to zeal a persecuter of the church, as to righteousness under the law blameless." Philipp 3:6

I won't try to explain that verse, I'll let others attempt to do so.

 

[p_rehbein]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, how would we know what his desires are? I thought the original post was actually a good question

having communicated with him on this and several other threads, I can surely detect/discern ............ not judging "quickly" at all......... You should go through the various threads he has authored and read his comments.......just saying.......

Or, IF he returns today, you can wait until he responds to your post........

 

[p_rehbein]

oh, look, he is here now.........and............please join in with him in discussion of Biblical Truth..........

(one hint: he believes Paul to be a false Apostle)

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Well at least you did take some effort. When did Paul stop being a Pharisee?

Many years after his "conversion" Acts has Paul saying,

"Brothers I am a Pharisee a son of Pharisees." Acts 23:6

Those items you mentioned which many would consider sins, Paul had this to say in another letter of his:

"as to zeal a persecuter of the church, as to righteousness under the law blameless." Philipp 3:6

I won't try to explain that verse, I'll let others attempt to do so.

It took no effort, it's an easy one to point out. Frankly, I didn't word it correctly when I said "Paul was a pharisee at one point". It should read "Paul was a Pharisee that persecuted Christians at one point". He never said he quit being a Pharisee as far as I know. Pharisee's differed from the Sadducees in that they believed in the hope of a resurrection/afterlife.

 

[svedbygrace]

......well.......yes, and no...........all who are now believers in and disciples of Christ were once "dead in our sins." Being called by God, brought under conviction by the Holy Spirit, and recognizing and BELIEVING that Jesus IS who He said He is....and with a sincere and contrite heart, bowing down, we confess our sins and ask Jesus to enter into our hearts........salvation was established by God the Father through God the Son for THE LOST WHO ARE DEAD IN THEIR SINS.

Jesus said as much Himself........more than once.

No lost person dead in sin can believe on Christ. The Gospel is hid to those who are lost and they believe not 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

So one must be saved in order to believe the Gospel !

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Those items you mentioned which many would consider sins, Paul had this to say in another letter of his:

"as to zeal a persecuter of the church, as to righteousness under the law blameless." Philipp 3:6

I won't try to explain that verse, I'll let others attempt to do so.

I'm not sure what your getting at here as I understand the verse and the Chapter in question. What point do you wish to make or question do you want to ask regarding it? Shortly after the part you quoted he continues to say

"[SUP]7 [/SUP]But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. [SUP]8 [/SUP]What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ"

Important part to keep in mind regarding that section of Phillipians. Both the verse you posted and the verses I posted are part of a larger context.

 

[svedbygrace]

crc

How do We Call on God’s Name?

We can't unless we are first quickened Ps 80:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.