Talking against the law is dangerous

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eternally-gratefull

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Speaking against any part of the Word is like speaking against our Creator. Having a true love for Almighty, for Yahshua/Jesus who lived as a man and suffered a torturous death, brings a grateful heart closer to all His instructions and teachings. And the "law" is better understood as teaching and instruction.
Psalm 119:105

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]105 [/SUP]Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
rightly dividing the word of truth. And speaking against it are two different things.

Saying the law is fullfilled in us, And fulfilled and completed by the law of the spirit, christ and love, is not the same thing as speaking against the law. Quite the opposite, It is admitting the law can only take us so far. And when it has been fulfilled in us, we need to go to what can take us to where God wants us to be.. Someplace the law can not take us
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I get the feeling that somehow the law of God is a threat to some people, and a beauty to others.
lol. Yep. And you just took it to where we keep saying you take it.

The law is a threat to EVERYONE! ALL IT CAN DO IS CONDEMN.

If you are not threatened by the law. All we can conclude is you think you can fulfill the law. This shows that you do not even understand the law, Because if you did. You would not say this.


What's there to be scared of, if it is no longer condemning? There's no way that it's going to vanish even if we say that it has.
Its not? Since when? That is why it was given, are you saying it no longer condemns all who does not obey it 100 %. Since when??

If we try to get rid of it, it still stands right where it originally has been established. There is only one way to get around it, or above it, and that is through Jesus Christ. It ain't gonna move or go away because we want it to. That's like saying that God established something that He knew wouldn't be beneficial but only to those that didn't believe, and absolutely no good for His own, after we have received His gift of faith.

It's like saying to a child, "I have something better for you because what I gave you first is now very bad, and I really messed up." What are we representing when we endorse those attributes about our Father in heaven?

yep. It still stands where it was.


Galatians 3:10 [ The Law Brings a Curse ] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do

You better fear it. Because it condemns you.
 
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chubbena

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That is not the point my friend.

The point is. Can the law be upheld. The answer is a resounding no. (for in order to be upheld, it must be obeyed in all the things written in it with NO MISTAKES)

You may THINK you uphold the law. But you can't. And if you want to follow the law. You must suffer the curse of the law. Plain and simple.
Yes it's plain and simple. It's Romans 3:31 mistaken as the new covenant law of love again. Is one able to keep the law of love perfectly?
 
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i do my best to obey, and its not to try being righteous, it's because i love the Father that gave the law, period. Our righteousness is as filthy rags compared to the righteousness of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. Before i came to Jesus i was a heathen, i praise the Almighty daily for His grace and mercy, inviting me into His Family.
 
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All that the Father has done for me, i will never be able to repay Him, but at least i can do my best to obey him.
 
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When my children were small, they didn't care too much for my rules, didn't understand that love was the reason for the rules. Now they have kids of their own and have the same rules for their children.

We are God's children. Clearly we would live in a better world if everyone would learn and obey God's instructions. To say that Jesus abolished the instructions is a lie. That would make about as much sense as my grandchildren telling their parents, "Mom, Dad, you obeyed nana's rules, so now I don't have to because you did."

Some seem to think there was no grace in Abraham's day. To that I would advise, "Go home and read your Bible.":) The Promise runs through the Bible like a scarlet ribbon, from Genesis to Revelation. Faith was, is, will be, to all who love the LORD, our Creator.
 

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All that the Father has done for me, i will never be able to repay Him, but at least i can do my best to obey him.
......as should we all........I would never argue with that.......... :)
 

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When my children were small, they didn't care too much for my rules, didn't understand that love was the reason for the rules. Now they have kids of their own and have the same rules for their children.

We are God's children. Clearly we would live in a better world if everyone would learn and obey God's instructions. To say that Jesus abolished the instructions is a lie. That would make about as much sense as my grandchildren telling their parents, "Mom, Dad, you obeyed nana's rules, so now I don't have to because you did."

Some seem to think there was no grace in Abraham's day. To that I would advise, "Go home and read your Bible.":) The Promise runs through the Bible like a scarlet ribbon, from Genesis to Revelation. Faith was, is, will be, to all who love the LORD, our Creator.
So, would you kindly provide a "complete list" of those rules we are to abide by?
 
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Yes it's plain and simple. It's Romans 3:31 mistaken as the new covenant law of love again. Is one able to keep the law of love perfectly?

Good question. As long as we can't keep both perfectly, let's just throw both of them away.

Get real people. Is not the law of love the same in both the old and new. Is the Old Testament law of love different from the New Testament law of love? Seems to me since "God is Love," they would be the same. It's just that the Old Testament law is more definitive in principle when it comes to loving each other. Maybe we've gone wrong somewhere because of such obvious division, thereby exemplifying anything but love.

I know that the Leviticus law is changed from physical to Spiritual through the tribe of Judah, but even those laws are valid in principle, otherwise Jesus' sacrifice, including ours would mean absolutely nothing. Jesus didn't have a dispute with Moses on the mount of transfiguration, why then should we? Just sayin'
 
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So, would you kindly provide a "complete list" of those rules we are to abide by?
Loaded question. :p

2 Timothy 2:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

It's better to consult the word of God if you're sincere.
 
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p_rehbein

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I am beginning to doubt your sincerity.
I have been doubting yours for some time now...........sooooooooo

and your referring to my comment to Brother_Don reveals you don't understand my inference........
 

p_rehbein

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Loaded question. :p

2 Timothy 2:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
??? IF people are going to insist that the Church today OBEY ALL THE LAW................is it not beneficial IF THEY HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE LAW?

...........goodness...........
 
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I have been doubting yours for some time now...........sooooooooo

and your referring to my comment to Brother_Don reveals you don't understand my inference........
Most likely I don't understand, but my goal is not to understand you. You're cute, but I don't worship you.:)
 
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I have been doubting yours for some time now...........sooooooooo

and your referring to my comment to Brother_Don reveals you don't understand my inference........
God understands though. That can be very bad, or very good, depending.:eek:
 
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So, would you kindly provide a "complete list" of those rules we are to abide by?
The rules are laid out in the 4 gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John... one such rule and a freebie....

Anytime you come across the word "but" in scripture the words following "but" in that sentence must be cast out to continue with proper meaning.

BUT=CAST OUT
 
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All that the Father has done for me, i will never be able to repay Him, but at least i can do my best to obey him.
AMEN! It amazes me how people think we constantly receive from God but have no obligation to give back as He has set up the process, referring of course to Nadab and Abihu who thought they had a better way to worship God than He had told them.
 
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Karraster

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Studying the gospels, it is clear that Jesus made a distinction between the law of God and the law of man. (plumb line)

Referring to "Moses Law" is referring to instructions that our Creator gave him. Those are God's Words. Moses didn't make 'em up ya know.


He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”
 
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??? IF people are going to insist that the Church today OBEY ALL THE LAW................is it not beneficial IF THEY HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE LAW?

...........goodness...........
It is already written in a book called the Bible Genesis through Revelation, but you have already made it plain that you don't like the first part. Makes me wonder how you can appreciate in its fulness the second part... The physical was given so that we could understand the Spiritual !
 
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The rules are laid out in the 4 gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John... one such rule and a freebie....

Anytime you come across the word "but" in scripture the words following "but" in that sentence must be cast out to continue with proper meaning.

BUT=CAST OUT
So in your opinion in the way you read scripture, are we supposed to not avoid foolish questions. If you agree with that you can answer my question even if you think it's dumb, and then we can continue to have strife among God's children. I had no idea that God wanted division among His children. Thanks, I will continue to gender strife. LOL

2 Timothy 2:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

Darn it, I think I'll keep but in there, and avoid that which has 2 t's