What Exactly Is Modest Apparel?

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In like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works (1 Tim. 2:9-10). Shorty shorts, bikinis, painted-on leggings, halters tops – are these the type of clothes a Christian should wear?
 
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Ms,Limpet, clearly not. Modest apparel is that which doesn't cause your brother or sister to stumble, or cause their mind to wander. You will open a hornets nest with this topic. I would postulate that the vast majority of "christians" dress to be looked at, much like the world.
 
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Depends on the culture obviously. Look to middle east for examples of what modesty was about. even going back to the 50s you would have been arrested for wearing clothes that are considered acceptable and normal today.

That passage is also hinting at women trying to impress with their wealth, something some of these churches in America could do with following, I get impression some churches do not allow people in unless they are dressed to the nines.

However the main issue today is how you dress in church. I wish some women would dress modestly in my church, it is a distraction to men. Low cut tops, showing off cleavage and more, short skirts again a distraction for many males. SO wear clothing below the knees, elbow length and neck length, do not make it figure hugging or gaping. That is the correct modest apparel to wear in church.

Christians struggling with issues and problems and sin should not have to go to church and be exposed to those things. It is wrong to put those temptations in front of people going to church.
 
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I'd say immodest apparel be anything very sexy or very flashy (in terms of luxury/wealth)

Only for your husbands eyes only is my opinion on sexy outfitting like the short shorts and stuff like that. I wouldn't mind for instance if I had a wife that like to barbie-doll herself up in different outfits for me in private, but no guy would want his wife walkign around looking too sexy in public.

For luxury good that's a lot more practical I think of just not wanting to appear flashy or arrogant.

Not even to be all conservative, but its really just practicality when one thinks about it. Consider like if you're a dude walking around with big fancy gold watches up and down the street everywhere and such, you're gonna be a target for a robbery. Good common sense to dress modestly. Same goes for men in my opinion. I know people sometimes go against this thinking its restrictive, but really when you think of it, it's just a little bit of common sense that can save anyone a lot of gripe.
 
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  1. Modest dress is a matter of right or wrong – not just opinion. We know this because once sin entered Adam and Eve’s life, they knew right and wrong and they knew they were naked.
  2. Men’s standards of modest dress are not sufficient in God’s eyes. What Adam and Eve thought was right was not right with God. Christians cannot let the world dictate what may or may not be God’s standard of dress.
  3. We must let God determine the standard for modest dress just as He did for Adam and Eve.
  4. Based on God’s choice of modest clothing, the standard is from the shoulder at least to the knee.
 
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Oh I see, you did not need the question answered as you already knew, can I have my 15 mins back please.
 
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Agricola said:
Oh I see, you did not need the question answered as you already knew, can I have my 15 mins back please.
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Sorry, not a set up question...just something i ran across :)
 
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Agricola said:
Depends on the culture obviously. Look to middle east for examples of what modesty was about. even going back to the 50s you would have been arrested for wearing clothes that are considered acceptable and normal today.

That passage is also hinting at women trying to impress with their wealth, something some of these churches in America could do with following, I get impression some churches do not allow people in unless they are dressed to the nines.

However the main issue today is how you dress in church. I wish some women would dress modestly in my church, it is a distraction to men. Low cut tops, showing off cleavage and more, short skirts again a distraction for many males. SO wear clothing below the knees, elbow length and neck length, do not make it figure hugging or gaping. That is the correct modest apparel to wear in church.

Christians struggling with issues and problems and sin should not have to go to church and be exposed to those things. It is wrong to put those temptations in front of people going to church.
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So, no T-shirts, shirts or shorts then? I agree that we should be modest but that's going too far.
 
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Good rule of thumb.......if you have to ask if its to sexy.....it probably is......
 
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I don't wear shorts because 95% of the time I wear dresses which are just above the knee, if they are shorter then I wear them with stockings or leggings. (This is personal preference though) When you boiling in 40 degree Celsius heat, you don't want to be overheating. Nothing wrong with wearing shorts though I don't think. By the standards being set in this thread wow I am starting to feel like I'm dressing to attract unwholesome thoughts, which is not the case at all. Someone said that it depends on the culture, that's so true. When I had a layover at Dubai airport I wore a dress (comfy as it was a 17 hour flight and not revealing at all, not top or bottom) with tights and the stares I got from both men and woman (muslim I assume because of what they were wearing) made me feel extremely uncomfortable. Unfortunately I have large breasts and they are very much able to be seen even with loose clothing, so unless I throw a blanket around me, I will I guess, according to the way this chat is going be dressed immoderately. What do you wear to the beach?
 
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Agricola said:
Depends on the culture obviously..................
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Not true. The bible transcends all cultures. Modesty is what the Lord dictates, not culture.
 
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well if you go to a club with your booty hanging out, that is not modest and if one or more of those drunk men overpower you. Well you get the picture. If I were a girl and I thought about going to place full of drunk men, I would have on layers with no skin showing because I don't want to be raped. Secondly I wouldn't go there anyway. I wouldn't go to Walmart with my booty hanging out , that's just asking for trouble.
 
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Modest apparel depends on the culture. I live in California surrounded by half naked woman most of the year. I can sympathize with Lot, it is not easy to remain righteous in a sexually immoral culture. Perhaps by the time I am 90 I will be able to avoid the occasion to stumble. Until then it is a Dailey prayer to avoid looking at beautiful women dressed to sexually arouse those around them.
 
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Kerry said:
well if you go to a club with your booty hanging out, that is not modest and if one or more of those drunk men overpower you. Well you get the picture. If I were a girl and I thought about going to place full of drunk men, I would have on layers with no skin showing because I don't want to be raped. Secondly I wouldn't go there anyway. I wouldn't go to Walmart with my booty hanging out , that's just asking for trouble.
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Lol no need to even equate it to women. Lol no one wants to see your booty hanging out no matter what gender you are lol Not picking on ya brother same applies to me too. I expect others not to approve of me if I'm sagging my pants like a hipster, or running around half naked, especially being a skinny pasty pale dude like me lol. It's just that simple.

Lol modest clothing, it's just some simple common sense really.
 
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Vernon said:
Modest apparel depends on the culture. I live in California surrounded by half naked woman most of the year. I can sympathize with Lot, it is not easy to remain righteous in a sexually immoral culture. Perhaps by the time I am 90 I will be able to avoid the occasion to stumble. Until then it is a Dailey prayer to avoid looking at beautiful women dressed to sexually arouse those around them.
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You just proved that 'modest' transcends culture.
 
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Another area of stumbling is men who wear lotsa bling and gold stuff. Weaker christians look at it and can't compute how that is 'Jesus-like.'
 
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Many AREN´t aware of the trick of fashion! When I was young I seldom follow it, except by using my eyes looking at it could be seen... Today, I don´t follow the fashion, although I´ve notice my eyes keeps on doing the same mistake (a sin). Why do I stare at those who belong (or would belong) to another woman?

The trick of fashions is making a woman more visible, desirable and, our selfish reward system spurs the idea the "I´m loved or admire for the person I am" but, the thuth is just the opposite: I´m "cherished" for those things people want to see or enjoy (namely: temporal pleasures).

Modesty is not appealling.

Chastity is not sexy for men´s eyes (just ignoring some women like to see women).

Fleshily, as eyes are, they look or stare at what they like (fortunatelly, I trained my mind to see what I like, but...)

Secular life do not help to provide modesty. Those who work in some latinamerican companies choose young and sexy girl to work in their offices. I have seen how old, unatractive and ugly people are dismiss to contract "sexy" ones... So here you see there is a sex trade to being hired (particularly by men).

I do know many sordid stories and, particularly, one of my NIECE...

The good new is not ALL are seduced or misled by fashion. I do see those who endure and do not let man-made fashion lead their life, but modesty... If any wear shorty tight shorts, she wants to be see (probably desired) and problably, she would pick the BEST man she think her best option (that is lawful and necesary: We also trade, with sex, on this life).

Operatively we (many) are window shopping on the streets and, pitifully, at church meetings...

The correct answwer is just that each man and each woman has chosen to avoid being a merchandize, a "thing" traded on the erotic market we could see around (though I could say I have seen holiness and sanctity everywhere, too)

Modesty and sanctification is a personal decision we can think of to make. :)
 
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crossnote said:
Another area of stumbling is men who wear lotsa bling and gold stuff. Weaker christians look at it and can't compute how that is 'Jesus-like.'
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Billy (Blingy) Sunday,

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You know where hanging the pants down where you under wear shows comes from. It comes from prison where men would slack down the back of the pants to show that they were available.
 
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