SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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The OT saints believed in the living God and looked forward to the promise of the Son or Messiah who would be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14) and to take away the sin of the world (Isaiah 53:5-7). That faith was imputed unto those who believed it as righteousness. Salvation in the righteousness of God was based upon a promise. When the Son of God was born of the virgin Mary, those who did not receive Him revealed their heart of unbelief in the promise, therefore it was not imputed unto them for righteousness and they were exempted from salvation because of their unbelief.
The NT believer has the record of the Son of God which includes His birth and His death, burial and resurrection and he has to look back upon what Christ did and believe by faith in the finished work of Christ and this is imputed unto him as righteousness which also comes by faith. So both the OT and NT saints must believe, one who looked forward to the promise of His coming being born of a virgin and we have to look back and trust in the cross and the fulfillment of the promise.
Rom 4:17-25
17 As it is written, I have made you the father of many nations. [He was appointed our father] in the sight of God in Whom he believed, Who gives life to the dead and speaks of the nonexistent things that [He has foretold and promised] as if they [already] existed.
18 [For Abraham, human reason for] hope being gone, hoped in faith that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been promised, So [numberless] shall your descendants be.
19 He did not weaken in faith when he considered the [utter] impotence of his own body, which was as good as dead because he was about a hundred years old, or [when he considered] the barrenness of Sarah’s [deadened] womb.
20 No unbelief or distrust made him waver (doubtingly question) concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong and was empowered by faith as he gave praise and glory to God,
21 Fully satisfied and assured that God was able and mighty to keep His word andto do what He had promised.
22 That is why his faith was credited to him as righteousness (right standing with God).
23 But [the words], It was credited to him, were written not for his sake alone,
24 But [they were written] for our sakes too. [Righteousness, standing acceptable to God] will be granted and credited to us also who believe in (trust in, adhere to, and rely on) God, Who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 Who was betrayed and put to death because of our misdeeds and was raised to secure our justification (our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God].
The NT believer has the record of the Son of God which includes His birth and His death, burial and resurrection and he has to look back upon what Christ did and believe by faith in the finished work of Christ and this is imputed unto him as righteousness which also comes by faith. So both the OT and NT saints must believe, one who looked forward to the promise of His coming being born of a virgin and we have to look back and trust in the cross and the fulfillment of the promise.
Rom 4:17-25
17 As it is written, I have made you the father of many nations. [He was appointed our father] in the sight of God in Whom he believed, Who gives life to the dead and speaks of the nonexistent things that [He has foretold and promised] as if they [already] existed.
18 [For Abraham, human reason for] hope being gone, hoped in faith that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been promised, So [numberless] shall your descendants be.
19 He did not weaken in faith when he considered the [utter] impotence of his own body, which was as good as dead because he was about a hundred years old, or [when he considered] the barrenness of Sarah’s [deadened] womb.
20 No unbelief or distrust made him waver (doubtingly question) concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong and was empowered by faith as he gave praise and glory to God,
21 Fully satisfied and assured that God was able and mighty to keep His word andto do what He had promised.
22 That is why his faith was credited to him as righteousness (right standing with God).
23 But [the words], It was credited to him, were written not for his sake alone,
24 But [they were written] for our sakes too. [Righteousness, standing acceptable to God] will be granted and credited to us also who believe in (trust in, adhere to, and rely on) God, Who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 Who was betrayed and put to death because of our misdeeds and was raised to secure our justification (our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God].
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further proof the law has not proven to some people that they are sinners. and do not understand the grace of God.
The ignore the words, "I never knew you" and only see the words, Practice lawlessness, which would be every one of us.
you can not use this to prove salvation can be lost. when this passage is not saying this, It says if you are going to try to reach God with your works. and stand in front of him under your own merit, you will fail. Because God never knew you. because even though you THINK your righteous, according to the law. You STILL practess lawlessness.
The ignore the words, "I never knew you" and only see the words, Practice lawlessness, which would be every one of us.
you can not use this to prove salvation can be lost. when this passage is not saying this, It says if you are going to try to reach God with your works. and stand in front of him under your own merit, you will fail. Because God never knew you. because even though you THINK your righteous, according to the law. You STILL practess lawlessness.
Sorry this took longer than expected, distractions in real life and CC was messing up when I tried to make certain fonts bigger to highlight the important points.
First, we start off with Ephesians:
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
That says that we are saved through our faith. Therefore, Faith is required to enter Heaven. In addition, it is saying that works as such like 100 pounds isnt required to enter heaven [someone only has 90 pounds, they cant enter Heaven, etc. Its saying that is not true].
James 2:14-17
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:18
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James 2:26
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
2 Timothy 3:17
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
TO Recap what the above has said:
1) We are saved through our faith, this is because of Grace
2) A specific amount of works, such as 100 pound requirement, is not what is expected
3) Works prove your faith.
Therefore, we can easily understand that works are a requirement of your salvation. We are saved through faith because of grace. Our works proves our faith. In addition, a specific amount of works such as 100 pounds is not required. However, that does not mean works are not required. As stated, works prove your faith.
To continue, I will be adressing the scriptures you didn't understand my perspective on. However, with just reading what I posted above should be enough.
Matthew 25:31-46
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
[SUP]32 [/SUP]And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[SUP]38 [/SUP]When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
[SUP]42 [/SUP]For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
[SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mark 16:16-18
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Now what the above things are stating are the follows:
First quote is about how because they did not help their fellow neighbours [love thy neighbour] and do good works to them, they were sent to hell. The second quote is about how Christians, who did not help anybody still went to hell, the last quote is to prove they are Christians.
There, I simplified everything. I specifically made the parts that are the key points to the quotes for you to understand. I hope you understand now, works prove your faith and decide whether you go to Heaven or hell. As 1 John 3:8 says, sin is works of the devil. Therefore, even with just that quote, and all the other information, works decide your faith. And as it is stated in the beginning, faith gets you into Heaven.
First, we start off with Ephesians:
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
That says that we are saved through our faith. Therefore, Faith is required to enter Heaven. In addition, it is saying that works as such like 100 pounds isnt required to enter heaven [someone only has 90 pounds, they cant enter Heaven, etc. Its saying that is not true].
James 2:14-17
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:18
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James 2:26
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
2 Timothy 3:17
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
TO Recap what the above has said:
1) We are saved through our faith, this is because of Grace
2) A specific amount of works, such as 100 pound requirement, is not what is expected
3) Works prove your faith.
Therefore, we can easily understand that works are a requirement of your salvation. We are saved through faith because of grace. Our works proves our faith. In addition, a specific amount of works such as 100 pounds is not required. However, that does not mean works are not required. As stated, works prove your faith.
To continue, I will be adressing the scriptures you didn't understand my perspective on. However, with just reading what I posted above should be enough.
Matthew 25:31-46
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
[SUP]32 [/SUP]And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[SUP]38 [/SUP]When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
[SUP]42 [/SUP]For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
[SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mark 16:16-18
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Now what the above things are stating are the follows:
First quote is about how because they did not help their fellow neighbours [love thy neighbour] and do good works to them, they were sent to hell. The second quote is about how Christians, who did not help anybody still went to hell, the last quote is to prove they are Christians.
There, I simplified everything. I specifically made the parts that are the key points to the quotes for you to understand. I hope you understand now, works prove your faith and decide whether you go to Heaven or hell. As 1 John 3:8 says, sin is works of the devil. Therefore, even with just that quote, and all the other information, works decide your faith. And as it is stated in the beginning, faith gets you into Heaven.
E
there will be no unbelievers at the "bema seat" judgment of God. this is for believers only, and yes, some will have their rewards burnt as wood hey and straw.But as paul makes clear. He himself will BE SAVED, even as though he escaped through the fire.
the unbeliever will not be risen by Christ, he will be delivered to him at the "great white throne judgment" of which NO believer will stand.. and they all will follow satan and his demons to the pits of hell "eternal torment"
E
No. Jesus tells us they were not real christians.
"I NEVER KNEW YOU" Means they were NEVER born into Gods family, thus they were NEVER saved.
See what I mean about twisting the word of God., it is not us saying this, IT IS GOD HIMSELF
You scream we do not listen to you and we are blind because we do not want to see truth, Then you make such comments such as these, which is CLEARLY not taught in the passage.
And you wonder why we can not listen to you, if you can not get this basic fact straight, and properly interpret what Jesus said, How can we listen to you in other areas concerning salvation?
E
Nor have you proven that it is not true.
All you have is the words of men. And the words of a church who persecuted anyone who believed otherwise for well over 1000 years (a fact you deny, which further proves your blindness)
Keep following men, And twisting the word of God to support your false doctrines, (which is WHY YOU NEED outside scriptural sources in the first place., because your doctrines can not stand with scripture.)
I do not need outside sources to prove scripture is right. I just need scripture to prove itself.
E
yeah one would hope and pray, But when you all are so steeped in the doctrines of men, and not the doctrines of God. I think history shows so very few are able to come out from it. (saul, Nicodemous to name a few) most will remain in their legalistic religious oriented means of tradition handed down through the ages like the jews did. And refuse to see the truth of God.
E
Why should I explain my point? You the one who has to explain your point.
Jesus said HE NEVER KNEW THEM, Did Jesus lie? How could someone be adopted into his family, How can they be given his gift of eternal life, Be a true part of his church, then Jesus say HE NEVER KNEW THEM? If he did he is a liar, There is no truth in him, and we are all following a false God
False churches cast out demons all the time, Satan uses this to make people believe they are following the truth. And it has worked for hundreds of years..
Jesus said HE NEVER KNEW THEM, Did Jesus lie? How could someone be adopted into his family, How can they be given his gift of eternal life, Be a true part of his church, then Jesus say HE NEVER KNEW THEM? If he did he is a liar, There is no truth in him, and we are all following a false God
False churches cast out demons all the time, Satan uses this to make people believe they are following the truth. And it has worked for hundreds of years..
H
David misunderstands scripture and cannot show from scripture how much good deeds we must do to get a pass so that we can enter into eternal life.
Regarding James 4:17 that David quoted, the good referred to here is to believe on Jesus. Remember it's the sin of unbelief in Jesus that the world is convicted of.
Consider the context of James 4:17 and then we can see what "good" means.
Note James 4:4 to see who it addresses to help get context.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Here we see it addresses spiritual adulterers who are in adultery with Hagar (who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).
Note also James 4:7, 8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Here we see a salvation call to these spiritual adulterers who are lost, in unbelief, which is evidenced by the fact they are legalists who follow doctrines where righteousness is determined by obedience to the law.
And note confirmation of this in James 4:12.
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
James 4:12 confirms that the context of this chapter is referring to legalists/spiritual adulterers, who judge righteousness by obedience to the law.
So what is the "good" that James 4:17 speaks of?
It refers to believing on Jesus.
This is the will of God (John 6:40, 1 Thess 4:3,)
Our works are to believe on Jesus, John 6:29.
The sin that the world is convicted of is unbelief in Jesus, John 16:9
The "good" that we are to do is to believe on Jesus.
The legalists here seem intent on avoiding the gospel as much as possible in their efforts to try to lure others here back under the law.
Regarding James 4:17 that David quoted, the good referred to here is to believe on Jesus. Remember it's the sin of unbelief in Jesus that the world is convicted of.
Consider the context of James 4:17 and then we can see what "good" means.
Note James 4:4 to see who it addresses to help get context.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Here we see it addresses spiritual adulterers who are in adultery with Hagar (who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).
Note also James 4:7, 8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Here we see a salvation call to these spiritual adulterers who are lost, in unbelief, which is evidenced by the fact they are legalists who follow doctrines where righteousness is determined by obedience to the law.
And note confirmation of this in James 4:12.
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
James 4:12 confirms that the context of this chapter is referring to legalists/spiritual adulterers, who judge righteousness by obedience to the law.
So what is the "good" that James 4:17 speaks of?
It refers to believing on Jesus.
This is the will of God (John 6:40, 1 Thess 4:3,)
Our works are to believe on Jesus, John 6:29.
The sin that the world is convicted of is unbelief in Jesus, John 16:9
The "good" that we are to do is to believe on Jesus.
The legalists here seem intent on avoiding the gospel as much as possible in their efforts to try to lure others here back under the law.
Alright, lets recap this then. And in my opinion, twisting scripture. First, lets ALL read James 4
[h=3]James 4[/h]King James Version (KJV)
4 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Is this spiritual? If you read it, and you realize it's talking about things you shouldn't do, like judging, boasting, and lusting, it is not spiritual. It's saying what is right and whats wrong. If you read the entire Chapter, you will understand that.
There, now you attacked the one verse of James 4:17, what about all the other verses?
[h=3]James 4[/h]King James Version (KJV)
4 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Is this spiritual? If you read it, and you realize it's talking about things you shouldn't do, like judging, boasting, and lusting, it is not spiritual. It's saying what is right and whats wrong. If you read the entire Chapter, you will understand that.
There, now you attacked the one verse of James 4:17, what about all the other verses?
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Some wanted nothing to do with Abraham nor any of the patriots for the fear of associating with the Jews and their errors and thus stayed ignorant.
Paul said "for I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Nevertheless, God was not please with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert. Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did..."
So ignorant one remains.
Paul said "for I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Nevertheless, God was not please with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert. Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did..."
So ignorant one remains.
1) I never said that.
2) I did, I bolded the specific parts to make it simple. Its a lot of Bible quotes, I know it takes time to read, but its the only way for you to understand.
3) I never said he lied. If you clearly read the verses, it means that the strangers never knew him. Jesus is God, or even if you think hes just the son, he was with God when everyone was created. He knows what you're thinking, and God knows every hair on your head. He knows who you are, the strangers however, did not. Therefore, since Christ dwells within us and the verses talk about how they didn't help the strangers, it is obvious he means that they never helped the stranger "[SUP]45 [/SUP]Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me." <-- quoted from my post
2) I did, I bolded the specific parts to make it simple. Its a lot of Bible quotes, I know it takes time to read, but its the only way for you to understand.
3) I never said he lied. If you clearly read the verses, it means that the strangers never knew him. Jesus is God, or even if you think hes just the son, he was with God when everyone was created. He knows what you're thinking, and God knows every hair on your head. He knows who you are, the strangers however, did not. Therefore, since Christ dwells within us and the verses talk about how they didn't help the strangers, it is obvious he means that they never helped the stranger "[SUP]45 [/SUP]Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me." <-- quoted from my post