The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

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posthuman

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The bubble that you should be discussing here is Ezekiel's wheels
Ezekiel's vision of wheels wasn't a vision of a bubble. everything you've said about 'supernatural orbs' in relation to the Holy Ghost and Ezekiel's vision can also be said of an helicopter:
it hovers
it descends like a bird
it's rotors resemble a wheel within a wheel
and military versions are even equipped with all kinds of surveillance equipment ('seeing eye') and weapons that spit out fire. in fact, now that i write this out, an helicopter is an even better metaphor of the Holy Ghost than a speck of dust, lol, though neither one are really very satisfying!
 

RickyZ

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historically in art the bubble is a symbol of vanitas - human vanity. it is representational in religious art of the brevity of life and the futility of human thought and action. this is well established in the history of Christian art.

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"Vanitas Still Life” by Jacques De Gheyn The Elder, 1603

above the bubble is an inscription: HVMANA VANA
that is, "HUMAN VANITY"
You nailed that one! How apropos!
 

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Show me three verses in context that teaches verbatim that the Holy Spirit will be revealed in (orbs) of light with the face of God on them....
Oh pls don't ask him to explain it again, I tried that n just posts pics of eyeballs and his twisted interpretation of Ezekiel's vision.
 
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how about you add something to the thread instead of re-posting the same thing over and over?

there are a lot of questions and points made in previous posts that you completely ignore. burying them by copy-pasting previous posts is making you look like a fool with no answer. the scripture says to be ready to give an answer to anyone that questions your faith -- with gentleness & respect, not with insults and high-mindedness.

but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect
(1 Peter 3:15)

i know you are strongly convinced, but if what you are convinced of is true, it should bear up under scrutiny and we should be able to more deeply discuss it. simply reposting the same thing that's on page 1 an hundred times doesn't work toward that. answering questions and having discussion does. i want you to be able to grow, not to be stagnant.

thanks for prompting me to research art. i love art. i'm sorry that what i found is in complete disagreement with you, but let's talk about that, not bury it by spamming pictures that are already posted dozens of times in this week alone.
No one has been able to prove me wrong yet they want to control me and they can not and this gets them upset. They have even said that I'm going to hell for this. I've made a good case and proven it many times using scripture, yet I have not seen one piece of scripture proving me wrong. Even you said the Holy Spirit glorifies Christ but didn't know what it meant. It is obvious that the supernatural orb bears witness that we belong to Christ. The actual glorification takes place in heaven where the Holy Spirit declares what he has witnessed of us belonging to Christ to the Apostles who sit on the thrones of judgement so that we may go onto the Father.
 
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re #542

I know it is true,without a shadow of a doubt, the Universe itself would fly apart if Jesus is not who He says He is, THAT, my dear is an example of the Holy Spirit bearing witness with my own.
And the photograph of the Holy Spirit looking as an eye bearing witness is evidence leaning toward the truth of what you say. And you shall glorify Christ in heaven.
 
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Show me three verses in context that teaches verbatim that the Holy Spirit will be revealed in (orbs) of light with the face of God on them....
Ezekiel's wheels is a description of what the Holy Spirit looks like, Ezekiel 1:15-21. No more scripture is needed to describe the appearance of the Holy Spirit. And then, I have shown you a picture of the Spirit of truth appearing as an eye bearing witness as in 1 John 5:6 and glorifying Christ as in John 16:13.. There is a great deal of scripture in the bible in reference to this. The supernatural orb is seen hovering like the Spirit of God over the face of the waters as in Genesis 1:2. And descending like a dove as in Mathews 3:16.
 
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then this is irrelevant and meaningless too:



and that is exactly the point i hoped to make with you, though you won't receive the full meaning of it.

Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher,
vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

(Ecclesiastes 1:2)
The reason I brought up the painting entitled, "Pyramid" is because it was painted by a modern day artistic genius who is renowned for her paintings being inspired by Father God. She is so good that at age twenty some of her works go for 3 million dollars. She is no ordinary artist. I believe her to be Gods' little artist.
 
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Oh pls don't ask him to explain it again, I tried that n just posts pics of eyeballs and his twisted interpretation of Ezekiel's vision.
It is sad to see a brother so blind to the Holy Spirit. It is this Spirit which glorifies Christ by bearing witness that we belong to Christ and declaring this to the Apostles who sit on the thrones of judgment so that we are not judged and can go onto the Father. It is the eye of the Spirit of truth which bears witness to this.

My interpretation of Ezekiel's vision of the wheels is not twisted. My interpretation is of the Holy Spirit appearing before Ezekiel with Father God and Cherubim. Others have interpreted it as a lifeless chariot or alien U.F.O.. My interpretation would be the least twisted of these. Do you have a better interpretation? I think not, because my interpretation is the only one which is correct.
 
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And the photograph of the Holy Spirit looking as an eye bearing witness is evidence leaning toward the truth of what you say. And you shall glorify Christ in heaven.
Actually, it is the Holy Spirit (Spirit of truth) which glorifies Christ in heaven before the Apostles who sit on the thrones of judgment so that we are not judged and can go onto the Father.

He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak - John 16:13

He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. - John 16:13

All things that the Father has are mine. - John !6:13

The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God. - Romans 8:16
 
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Notice how the supernatural orb resembles an eyeball:


1 John 5:6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

The photograph above is the Spirit of truth looking directly at the camera man and bearing witness to him taking the photograph.

Romans 9:1 ​I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience bearing witness in the Holy Spirit.
 

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It is sad to see a brother so blind to the Holy Spirit. It is this Spirit which glorifies Christ by bearing witness that we belong to Christ and declaring this to the Apostles who sit on the thrones of judgment so that we are not judged and can go onto the Father. It is the eye of the Spirit of truth which bears witness to this.

My interpretation of Ezekiel's vision of the wheels is not twisted. My interpretation is of the Holy Spirit appearing before Ezekiel with Father God and Cherubim. Others have interpreted it as a lifeless chariot or alien U.F.O.. My interpretation would be the least twisted of these. Do you have a better interpretation? I think not, because my interpretation is the only one which is correct.
EPH 3:16-17
16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

Don't need to believe some orb floating in the air looking at me when I have Holy Spirit dwelling in my heart. Enough said.

 

RickyZ

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You know, it's not so much the orb obsession as your holier than thou attitude that gives you away as a fraud.
 
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Notice how the supernatural orb resembles an eyeball:


1 John 5:6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

The photograph above is the Spirit of truth looking directly at the camera man and bearing witness to him taking the photograph.

Romans 9:1 ​I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience bearing witness in the Holy Spirit.
Bizarre and plain stupid, God is a ball of floating light or even worse, God is a floating eye ball. Everytime I view this thread I loose brain cells by the dozens.
 
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You know, it's not so much the orb obsession as your holier than thou attitude that gives you away as a fraud.
I am not a fraud and it is you who believes that he can take me out of the Fathers hands. I am merely a lowly servant.
 
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Bizarre and plain stupid, God is a ball of floating light or even worse, God is a floating eye ball. Everytime I view this thread I loose brain cells by the dozens.
The Holy Spirit is not just a ball. He is everything scripture tells us. The Holy Spirits' memory is so perfect that when He remembers you as a living person, you are a living person in His memory. His memory is so perfect that God will resurrect the body from the memory that the Holy Spirit has of you. It is not wise to underestimate the Holy Spirit.
 
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It is you RickyZ, the big bad wolf that wants to blow my house down. lol :)
 
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Bizarre and plain stupid, God is a ball of floating light or even worse, God is a floating eye ball. Everytime I view this thread I loose brain cells by the dozens.
The Holy Spirit is a beautiful, peaceful and absolutely perfect Spirit. He doesn't deserve to be called a ball of floating light or a floating eye ball. Have you ever read of people, ordinarily people that have been possessed by real demons, speaking to Jesus? The Father and Jesus truly does reach out to the broken. Just so you know who you are talking to. I am one of those people who truly has spoke to Jesus. The Father has spoke to me and I've witnessed both demons and an angel. Jesus Himself had revealed the Holy Spirit twice to me. I know for a fact that the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit and you my brothers and sisters are merely blind to the truth and giving me a hard time.
 
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The Holy Spirit is a beautiful, peaceful and absolutely perfect Spirit. He doesn't deserve to be called a ball of floating light or a floating eye ball. Have you ever read of people, ordinarily people that have been possessed by real demons, speaking to Jesus? The Father and Jesus truly does reach out to the broken. Just so you know who you are talking to. I am one of those people who truly has spoke to Jesus. The Father has spoke to me and I've witnessed both demons and an angel. Jesus Himself had revealed the Holy Spirit twice to me. I know for a fact that the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit and you my brothers and sisters are merely blind to the truth and giving me a hard time.
I am asking this sincerely: do you believe hallucinogens help people see the spirit world, and were you on hallucinogens where you were shown these things?
 
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The reason I brought up the painting entitled, "Pyramid" is because it was painted by a modern day artistic genius who is renowned for her paintings being inspired by Father God. She is so good that at age twenty some of her works go for 3 million dollars. She is no ordinary artist. I believe her to be Gods' little artist.
The girl was visited by Jesus but was he THE Jesus, the Son of God or was he an angel of light coming in the guise of Jesus? Something is off about the whole thing. The message she was told by 'Jesus' contrasts with the message given by Jesus in the Bible.