What a disjointed body we have all become

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

What a disjointed body we have all become, accustomed to the blind trust we cling to in the hope of obtaining something we desire:”ETERNAL LIFE or GOOD FORTUNE”! Just the fact that either might be the primary reasoning behind someone’s choosing to follow God’s teachings is entirely the wrong reason to follow God. There is only one reason to choose to follow Yhvh and that is for fellowship (Fellowship- the freewill choice to like someone for who they are.). After all that is the reason the bible tells us we were created; for “fellowship”. We also know from scripture that in the end days we will see the truth reviled and mistreated by the established religions. The established denominations and non-denominational churches will cling to the very tradition we are warned about as they have made the word of God as though it never had been!

John 16:2-3 but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God. NASU
Matt 10:26-28 "Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. "What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops. NASU

Myriad verses tell those given awareness by Yhvh of the hardships they will encounter in the way of hypocrisy from church leaders but none can say they were not forewarned. Evil has shown its head at every turn by church leaders as many gossiped and conspired to disallow simple Bible studies, unless they would be allowed to add to the word with their divine inspirations or change the very definitions of English, Greek and Hebrew dictionaries.

Matt 5:11-12 "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. NASU

Luke 11:47-52 Woe to you! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and it was your fathers who killed them. "So you are witnesses and approve the deeds of your fathers; because it was they who killed them, and you build their tombs. "For this reason also the wisdom of God said, ' I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute, so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house of God; yes, I tell you, it shall be charged against this generation.' "Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering." NASU

Matt 7:22-23 Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' NASU

Matt 13:52 "Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old." NASU

Shocking, but true, most books in the New Testament testify to the fact end day churches would be an apostasy of the truth. Yet every church thinks they are the exception, even though they are all committed to the same apostasies. It is those apostasies they have come to rely upon for their power and influence.

Matt 23:34-35 Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous bloodshed on earth, from the blood of righteous NASU

This verse is a picture of the time of the gentiles being complete and a testimony to the churches today.

John 8:37 I know that you are Abraham's descendants; yet you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. NASU

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

The modern day church is no different than the scribes from the time of Jeremiah. Jeremiah warned us the scribes were writing lies in their transcribing of the Holy Books.

Jer 8:6-12 "I have listened and heard, they have spoken what is not right (they were not speaking the truth); No man repented of his wickedness, Saying, 'What have I done? 'Everyone turned to his course, Like a horse charging into the battle. "Even the stork in the sky knows her seasons; and the turtledove and the swift and the thrush. Observe the time of their migration; But My people do not know the ordinance of the LORD. How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. The wise men are put to shame, they are dismayed and caught; Behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, and what kind of wisdom do they have? Therefore I will give their wives to others, their fields to new owners; because from the least even to the greatest everyone is greedy for gain; from the prophet even to the priest everyone practices deceit. They heal the brokenness of the daughter of My people superficially, Saying, 'Peace, peace,' But there is no peace. Were they ashamed because of the abomination they had done? They certainly were not ashamed, and they did not know how to blush;

Are we to imitate the Hebrews blindly following after our own ways; denying the words of the Bible that point out the corruption installed by man? Sorting out man, for the largest part is just using the ability to discern. From the varying accounts of Torah history, it seems to be as follows (at least from the time of Moses to the time of Jeremiah): from the existence of the first tabernacle/ temple there was only the original written torah, this was true until the captivity and destruction of the first temple. It was during the exile, when copies began to be made to preserve the knowledge of the Hebrew God for the Jews to use in their continued worship of God. It is at this time that Jeremiah made his accusation against the scribes. Interesting enough, it is only after this time the Jews are able to present their evidence as to the accuracies of the Torah (probably something the Hebrews began as a delayed defense to Jeremiah’s accusation). This does nothing to correct the lies of the scribes, yet the masses desire the Scribes version as it is, for it allows the same “privileges of disobedience”.

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

What the Word does is warn us of these distortions and give us direction to sort man from the words of Adonai. This is supported by Mark as he demonstrates once again the willingness of the leaders of the Jewish hierarchy to pervert the words of Yhvh to meet their needs.

Mark 7:9-13 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. For Moses said, 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER'; and, 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, IS TO BE PUT TO DEATH'; but you say, 'If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),' you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that." NASU
The fist evidence I found was from Moses and he not only exposes his own failure in keeping Yhvh’s name Holy, but Yeshua again testifies to it when tested about divorce. The first direct evidence of this was in Moses’ declaration of why he sent spies into the Promised Land.

Num 13:1-4 Then the LORD spoke to Moses saying, " Send out for yourself men so that they may spy out the land of Canaan, which I am going to give to the sons of Israel; you shall send a man from each of their fathers' tribes, everyone a leader among them." So Moses sent them from the wilderness of Paran at the command of the LORD, all of them men who were heads of the sons of Israel. NASU

Moses states God told him to send out spies to test the land of their inheritance. Then in Deuteronomy Moses makes it clear that it was the Israelites who called for the spies to be sent, admitting it just sounded good to his own ears. This was failing to keep God’s name Holy by anyone’s standard and by Moses’ own admission he had failed to do so. Why is it that the simplicity of this and many other facts demonstrated by the very verses of the Bible are not only ignored but aggressively assaulted with vicious intent? Why does saying what is in a book they profess to believe, become such a thing to be feared?

Deut 1:19-25 "Then we set out from Horeb, and went through all that great and terrible wilderness which you saw on the way to the hill country of the Amorites, just as the LORD our God had commanded us; and we came to Kadesh-barnea. I said to you, 'you have come to the hill country of the Amorites which the LORD our God is about to give us. 'See, the LORD your God has placed the land before you; go up, take possession, as the LORD, the God of your fathers, has spoken to you. Do not fear or be dismayed.' Then all of you approached me and said, 'Let us send men before us, that they may search out the land for us, and bring back to us word of the way by which we should go up and the cities which we shall enter.' The thing pleased me and I took twelve of your men, one man for each tribe. They turned and went up into the hill country, and came to the valley of Eshcol and spied it out. NASU

Truly, this should be a precaution for those called by Yhvh, they can still be influenced by what they think is best and even what the people will allow or was he just being manipulated by Satan? Many such examples exist throughout the Old Testament, lending to a fuller understanding of the evil in man’s heart and our weaknesses against Satan’s influences. How self serving the Hebrew heart was to self justify their actions, twisting commandments from Yhvh including their copying of the torah, how arrogant are we today? Yeshua demonstrates again how even the greatest men of the bible faltered when He tells Israel, “Moses gave you the decree of divorce for your hardness of heart but from the beginning it has not been so.” Proving again Moses had failed to keep Yhvh’s name holy by saying God said when it was from the heart of man.

Matt 19:8-9 "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery." NASU

What Moses said to the Hebrews was:

Deut 24:1-4 "When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out from his house, and she leaves his house and goes and becomes another man's wife, and if the latter husband turns against her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her to be his wife, then her former husband who sent her away is not allowed to take her again to be his wife, since she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the LORD, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance. NASU

If this being true with Moses, how much more the distortions from the rest of mankind! I have no doubt Moses loved Yhvh yet I also have no doubt Moses was a man and maybe that explains why the Bible teaches that the best of thought from man to be so far below God thought’s. Yet we try to create an idol of the Bible and numerous other religious items; each time removing ourselves further from knowing the heart of God and farther from bringing Yhvh joy!

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

Throughout history man has perverted Yhvh’s words not just to control man but also in an attempt to help God express what the scribes, political leaders or even houses of worship leaders thought Yhvh was really trying to say or one of a plethora of other reasons.

Claiming the Bible is the verbatim word of Adonai is in direct contrast to the verses themselves and therefore in contrast to Yhvh’s words. The Bible tells us the Bible is the inspired word of God. The words “inspired words” being defined by traditionalists as the absolute quote and factually verbatim to God. But the word Inspired leaves room for interpretation, conclusions and self. The dictionary's definition is: to be brilliant and creative and based on a particular motive or example. This allows for the circumstances of life and the personality of the one inspired to be undeniable influences on the recorded messages, little less the translator who thinks he knows what the author really meant to say.

It is important to understand the influencing factors before understanding the places in the Word that leads to the confusion of Yhvh's heart and motives. Understanding this demonstrates it is possible to sort man from the Word enough to get a good look at the heart of Yhvh.

We are adamant in telling everyone that the Lord speaks to each of us in whatever way it takes for us to know our calling, yet we refuse to see how the Lord had to talk to men of the past to get His message into a concept they could comprehend. Nor do we seem to comprehend the enlightenment the Word gives us when it tells us that man has and continues to worship Yhvh for who they would have him be rather than for who He is: Cain worshiped Yhvh for whom he desired Him to be and was angry when his concept failed to be correct. This trait of man to make Yhvh who man would have God be continued down through the years in thousands upon thousands of ways, even to be spoken of point blank by Yeshua and those who followed Him.

Mark 7:6-7 A THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME. BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.' NASU
Acts 28:27 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, AND WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES; OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE WITH THEIR EYES, AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND I WOULD HEAL THEM."' NASU

2 Tim 4:2-5 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. NASU

Titus 1:10-16 For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain. One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, " Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons." This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed. NASU

There are many more verses like the ones you have just read, all reference about man remolding Yhvh into the god man desired. Yet to this day when Yhvh sends Yeshua forth to give knowledge, the Christian church of today, slays the spirit with gossips, plotting evil and showing their true spirits! Oh how I hope that showing them the light will guide their paths to a better understanding of who Yhvh really is.

John 16:2 "They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God. NASU

To kill someone is not to just take their life, but to kill the message they carry from Yhvh. All the prophets were not killed physically yet Yeshua says the Judeans killed the prophets. Their lives meant little but the message was everything, so to say they were killed was to acknowledge no heed was give the message Yhvh had sent them.
Matt 23:37 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! NASU

Today, without conscience, the Church slays the words sent from Yeshua through a thousand different justifications. Displaying a deceitfulness that inspired my wife to say at one church we visited; “honey don’t drink the Kool-Aid” and she was right! Congregations have been manipulated into cult followings that allow leaders to reach almost deity stature, congregations in fear of losing their eternal life or worse yet being tortured for eternity! Blind wanderers in darkness, following the path of goats in hopes of rewards!

By learning to sort man from the word, the misinterpretations and contradictions become greatly simplified, exposing the authors of yesterdays and today as slayers of the truth.

Sirk · May 1, 2014

You and I have had a bit of a disagreement but I want to say that I respect you as a person. Maybe I don't quite see the world as you do but that is only a difference in what we have experienced really. I didn't read your entire post but in regards to the title I would say the reason fir this is that we often sacrifice relationship at the alter of pride....and let's face it, we ALL do it.

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

I have had so much happen and it took so much for me to understand the heart of God, that a surety has developed within my own heart. Tested twice for my I.Q., once in high school and once when I went into the USMC, I know my test results to have been 72 and then 77. After the hand of Yeshua entered me, my I.Q. tested at 113 in the V.A. hospital. After a dozen miraculous events, I went to the V.A. and told them God was real or I was crazy. After 9 months the answer was: Mister Masterson, we don't know how you fooled all our tests but we know that God does not exist like that. They released me from the hospital certifiably sane. I know understand God had to do this that I might come to comprehend, that I might share.
It took 15 years more before I understood God and who He was at heart and more so what this was all about and how far we had been misguided from the truth. Now I am in a ministry that has alienated all but a few from friendship and has cost me almost everything, yet I persist. why? How do I abandon truth?

Sirk said:

Sirk · May 1, 2014

Woodartdon said:

I have had so much happen and it took so much for me to understand the heart of God, that a surety has developed within my own heart. Tested twice for my I.Q., once in high school and once when I went into the USMC, I know my test results to have been 72 and then 77. After the hand of Yeshua entered me, my I.Q. tested at 113 in the V.A. hospital. After a dozen miraculous events, I went to the V.A. and told them God was real or I was crazy. After 9 months the answer was: Mister Masterson, we don't know how you fooled all our tests but we know that God does not exist like that. They released me from the hospital certifiably sane. I know understand God had to do this that I might come to comprehend, that I might share.
It took 15 years more before I understood God and who He was at heart and more so what this was all about and how far we had been misguided from the truth. Now I am in a ministry that has alienated all but a few from friendship and has cost me almost everything, yet I persist. why? How do I abandon truth?

Thanks for your reply....I need some time to make a halfway intelligent response to your great post.

Sirk · May 1, 2014

It sounds like you have been thru a lot. Obviously you are a veteran. Thank you for your service. Thats amazing that God would do that for your IQ! Please tell me about your upbringing. Who were your parents. Were you raised in a Christian home? What was their occupation? What did you dream about becoming when you were a child?

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

My testimony is at (donmasterson.weebly.com) but if you are interested in the difference between a 72 I.Q. and a 113 I.Q., I am probably the only one who can describe the difference. At an I.Q. of 72 I would read a paragraph and never remember what it said at all. At 113 I remember everything that interests me. The many pains and pitfalls of a low I.Q. are not the memories I care to relive, so I will pass on that option, sorry.

Sirk said:

Kerry · May 1, 2014

well my I.Q. is about 10 but my J.C. is about 999.

Sirk · May 1, 2014

Woodartdon said:

My testimony is at (donmasterson.weebly.com) but if you are interested in the difference between a 72 I.Q. and a 113 I.Q., I am probably the only one who can describe the difference. At an I.Q. of 72 I would read a paragraph and never remember what it said at all. At 113 I remember everything that interests me. The many pains and pitfalls of a low I.Q. are not the memories I care to relive, so I will pass on that option, sorry.

Okay...I will check it out.

Woodartdon · May 1, 2014

That's nice and your I.Q. shows in your reply. I see the god you worship demands you be a ridiculing, insulting put down artist bragging about his exaggerated bond with "J.C..

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Sirk · May 1, 2014

I'm guessing you are a wood crafter. What do you make?

Kerry · May 1, 2014

I got it sirk.

Anyway, with an I.Q. as high as yours. Maybe you should have read where Paul states that all his education and knowledge he counts as naught. Being educated at the university of Taurus and then at the feet of Gamiel, a Pharisee of pharisee's. But when he meet Jesus and the Holy Spirit, he said I count it as naught, for the wisdom of man cannot hold a candle to the wisdom of God.

The cross is for the rich and the poor and the smart and not so gifted. No other so called religion can say that.

Sirk · May 1, 2014

One thing I am curious about is in your OP you stated that you understand Gods heart. This seems like a pretty lofty statement.

faroukfarouk · May 2, 2014

Sirk said:

When I read John 17 and meditate on it, I still feel that I am just scratching the surface with a knowledge of God's heart...

Kerry · May 2, 2014

faroukfarouk said:

And we will still be scratching the surface until we are present with the Father. The word is unsearchable. You can read the same passage 99 times and on the 100th time something knew will stand out. It is a living moving thing.

faroukfarouk · May 2, 2014

Kerry said:

"When we've been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing His praise
Than we first begun."

"Amazing grace"

RedTent · May 2, 2014

Kerry said:

Paul's IQ was certainly used by God although many people still today don't understand him. In Acts it says that he was accused of being against the Torah and they couldn't prove it, but still today he is accused of that.

2Pe 3:15-16 Also, regard the patience of our Lord as an opportunity for salvation, just as our dear brother Paul has written to you according to the wisdom given to him. 16 He speaks about these things in all his letters in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.

My IQ measures 120 they say, all my kid's is high, too, and it hasn't done any of us a bit of good. It just means that we are often told that we are stupid for not thinking exactly as others think. My son had a hard time not being kicked out of college once. When he made an almost perfect score in a difficult math class they said he cheated. He had to take some courses he didn't like at all, like a study of false religions was required. He made terrible grades at those.

The real test of wisdom is being able to see the core issues and not get carried away with the details, thinking they don't fit. Sometimes the lower IQ does that better.

p_rehbein · May 2, 2014

My I.Q. was really, really HIGH...........so much so, that I became concerned, so...........I enrolled it in Rehab.......so far, so good........

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