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What do you supposed Jesus expected them to baptize people in?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Baptize mean Immersion.
That verse say must immersed in that three name. symbolized by water,
though baptize mean immersion, it just symbol, Catholic do it in sprinkle, salvation Army use flag to me it not make any different, symbol not save us. symbol is just symbol.
My neighbor baptized because his fiance not going to marry her if she not baptized.
She may baptized by water but not baptized in those three name and not save her.
E
Then why do it? Do you do things that have no meaning?
Because God said so.
If you will not obey him in this, Chances are you would not obey him in other things, So it does have meaning, Lots of meaning. (Not to mention, Most baptisms I attend someone, if not quite a few, come to Christ due to the testimony of those being baptized.)
as with MOST of Gods commands, it has more of an effect on others, than it does even ourselves.
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Acts 18:24-26 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquilla and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded the way of God more perfectly.
Sorta makes you wonder what Aquilla and Priscilla taught him - He was already instructed in the way of the Lord; he was fervent in 'spiritual things/matters'; he spake boldly in the synagogue and taught diligently the things of the Lord but he only knew the baptism of John [water] - why even mention that? Aquilla and Priscilla took him unto them and expounded the way of God more perfectly - baptism of the Spirit. [and yes that is speculation again on my part but it sure fits!]
Sorta makes you wonder what Aquilla and Priscilla taught him - He was already instructed in the way of the Lord; he was fervent in 'spiritual things/matters'; he spake boldly in the synagogue and taught diligently the things of the Lord but he only knew the baptism of John [water] - why even mention that? Aquilla and Priscilla took him unto them and expounded the way of God more perfectly - baptism of the Spirit. [and yes that is speculation again on my part but it sure fits!]
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
If water baptism was essential for salvation, why would Paul not be sent by the Lord to both preach the gospel and to baptize without being concerned about others thinking he baptized in his own name? Paul never mentions the necessity of water baptism for the remission of sins, or a prerequisite for being born from above or for the salvation and redemption of the soul. John was sent to baptize with water (John 1:33) but when Christ came that baptism unto repentance ceased and being baptized in the name of Christ took over, not for salvation but for discipleship in following Christ through the new birth as a new creature in Christ through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, the one new man.
John knew his time was up and that Christ would baptize with the Holy Spirit. For salvation or the remission of sins, water baptism is not needed and has no redemptive value but to identify with Christ and to follow Him. The believer is baptized in Christ for the sake of the gospel. For those who heard of the the baptism of John unto repentance, they were the ones who Peter was addressing in the book of Acts who needed to be baptized unto Christ for the remission of their sins because they had crucified the Lord and Savior Jesus. The Gentiles who believed upon the name of Christ received the Holy Spirit and for the sake of the Jews were baptized by water immersion and became part of the family of God who followed Christ as members of His body, flesh and bones (Eph 5:30).
Then why do it? Do you do things that have no meaning?
But can we rape, everyday, robe the bank every day, any way salvation by faith.
The answered is no.
If the branch abide the vine he will bear fruit.
Salvation come after we invite Jesus into our heart. And if Jesus in our heart it change us we not interested become rapist or robber anymore.
Salvation produce good work but good work not produce salvation.
Jesus said the branch can not bear fruit by itself, mean pure good work in agape love motivation only produce by Jesus and he who invite Jesus in his heart.
Same with water baptism. It not going to produce salvation, but our salvation may produce baptism if we have time.
We have to accept Jesus first then we decide to baptize.
If we decide to baptize just because the requirement for marry a rich christian, not doing any good at all. Not save us.
In this case you not baptize by those three name, just baptize by water.
Matt 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Baptize mean Immersion.
That verse say must immersed in that three name. symbolized by water,
though baptize mean immersion, it just symbol, Catholic do it in sprinkle, salvation Army use flag to me it not make any different, symbol not save us. symbol is just symbol.
My neighbor baptized because his fiance not going to marry her if she not baptized.
She may baptized by water but not baptized in those three name and not save her.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Baptize mean Immersion.
That verse say must immersed in that three name. symbolized by water,
though baptize mean immersion, it just symbol, Catholic do it in sprinkle, salvation Army use flag to me it not make any different, symbol not save us. symbol is just symbol.
My neighbor baptized because his fiance not going to marry her if she not baptized.
She may baptized by water but not baptized in those three name and not save her.
E
Baptism is the place where God meets man for the forgiveness of sins. I'm not sure why you think this is just a symbol.
2. It is (like the OT circumcision) A symbol of what GOD alone can do for us.
I am not sure why yuo think some man can wash our sin, and why God has to wait for us to do a work of righteousness to save us, When paul said it is NOT by works of righteousness we have done.
What Is the Purpose of Baptism?
It is not for salvation, but is a public testimony of faith in Christ and a picture of the gospel.
It is not for salvation, but is a public testimony of faith in Christ and a picture of the gospel.
Also, can you provide anything from Scripture that says Baptism is simply a public confession?
Irenaeus 180 AD.
Disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the apostle John.
In refuting the Gnostics,
And when we come to refute them, we shall show in its fitting-place, that this
class of men have been instigated by Satan to a denial of that baptism which is
regeneration to God, and thus to a renunciation of the whole [Christian] faith.
1. Peter said so
2. It is (like the OT circumcision) A symbol of what GOD alone can do for us.
I am not sure why yuo think some man can wash our sin, and why God has to wait for us to do a work of righteousness to save us, When paul said it is NOT by works of righteousness we have done.
2. It is (like the OT circumcision) A symbol of what GOD alone can do for us.
I am not sure why yuo think some man can wash our sin, and why God has to wait for us to do a work of righteousness to save us, When paul said it is NOT by works of righteousness we have done.
E
Peter didn't say it was a symbol, he said it saves us.
Secondly, I never suggested that men can wash away sins.
Thirdly, when Paul speaks of not being saved by works the context is the Mosaic Law. If you are familiar with the Judaizers you know what Paul was addressing.