In the beginning there was a Spirit and He was all there was. In His greatness there was but one desire, this Spirit sought after, fellowship. Everything created in some way was to the achievement of that desire. Everything that is, plays some part in bringing us into fellowship with Yhvh. From the expansion of the universe and all that is in it, to the Yhvh's messengers (Angles), Elders and other heavenly hosts, that where formed and given authority over each and every expansion of Elohiym’s being, to the fulfillment of all that was required for the unity of man and Yhvh into a fellowship of endearing friendship. I know that everything that is, originates from Adonai, (living or inanimate) as a part of Yhvh. As nothing existed before Yhvh and all thing came from Him all thing are a part of Him. That is not to say we should worship anything or anyone in the place of Yhvh but that we should respect everything as a part of Him. Yeshua demonstrated this as he would allow no man to give Him (The Messiah) praise but rather He redirected their praise to Yhvh. Yeshua would not even allow the people to call Him good as He redirected their attention back to Yhvh. In Revelations John speaks of the church of Ephesus and with close examination into the simplicity as to the understanding of His words, reveals how we yet fail Adonai by continuing to fall short of fellowship with Yhvh.
In the beginning there was a Spirit and He was all there was
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In beginning Yhvh became Elohiym (God in the plural sense) and is identified to us as the part of Yhvh we understand as “I AM”. This physical manifestation we refer to as “I AM” then created all things of the solar systems and all that was composed within, on and around existence even inanimate objects.
I considered first, why the angles and elders: Is the God that I serve someone who desires blind
servers whose very existence is to pay homage to Him? Shaddai is not a God of arrogance nor boastfulness that He needed them to boost His esteem by praising Him, so why would Yhvh create them? That is by no means the God I met and have come to know. (The clue is in Job when all the sons of God where giving account to him and when Yeshua spoke of the rock crying out. All the Elders of heaven have something they are responsible for.)
The word of Adonai tells us that Yeshua is as YHVH is; the church is to be and act as Yeshua; we are the church. I say all this to point out that Adonai could not be arrogant or self serving, both of which would have to be present if blind praises where His desire. Adonai is exactly who He told us we would be imitating, if we walked in the perfection defined within His words. If our actions imitate Yeshua and Yeshua is as Yhvh, the image of Adonai’s heart becomes an open book. Therefore each of the Elders around the throne has a duty or responsibility that is the purpose of their existence. I know that for everything Yhvh had created in our realm (life, inanimate objects, actions, and emotions, everything of life big and small, even to the very most outer reaches of our imagination) an Elder or Steward was. Even the rocks must be a part of Adonai for John the Baptist told the Pharisees Adonai could raise children of Abraham from the rocks. Was John giving us a glimpse into our lack of awareness as to the realm of Shaddai. Was there an Elder that could have came together to make John’s word truth within the realm of possibilities. Anything less would have made Johns statement an impossibility and thereby a lie, this would not be acceptable. Knowing that everything Adonai does serves the purpose of fellowship (friendship) with us, is evidence of purpose of Elders. So now this all left me with an awareness of the beginning of all Adonai had become up to the point of the creation of man.
I considered first, why the angles and elders: Is the God that I serve someone who desires blind
servers whose very existence is to pay homage to Him? Shaddai is not a God of arrogance nor boastfulness that He needed them to boost His esteem by praising Him, so why would Yhvh create them? That is by no means the God I met and have come to know. (The clue is in Job when all the sons of God where giving account to him and when Yeshua spoke of the rock crying out. All the Elders of heaven have something they are responsible for.)
The word of Adonai tells us that Yeshua is as YHVH is; the church is to be and act as Yeshua; we are the church. I say all this to point out that Adonai could not be arrogant or self serving, both of which would have to be present if blind praises where His desire. Adonai is exactly who He told us we would be imitating, if we walked in the perfection defined within His words. If our actions imitate Yeshua and Yeshua is as Yhvh, the image of Adonai’s heart becomes an open book. Therefore each of the Elders around the throne has a duty or responsibility that is the purpose of their existence. I know that for everything Yhvh had created in our realm (life, inanimate objects, actions, and emotions, everything of life big and small, even to the very most outer reaches of our imagination) an Elder or Steward was. Even the rocks must be a part of Adonai for John the Baptist told the Pharisees Adonai could raise children of Abraham from the rocks. Was John giving us a glimpse into our lack of awareness as to the realm of Shaddai. Was there an Elder that could have came together to make John’s word truth within the realm of possibilities. Anything less would have made Johns statement an impossibility and thereby a lie, this would not be acceptable. Knowing that everything Adonai does serves the purpose of fellowship (friendship) with us, is evidence of purpose of Elders. So now this all left me with an awareness of the beginning of all Adonai had become up to the point of the creation of man.
before the universe, Wisdom:
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
while as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens, I was there
(Proverbs 8:22-27)
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
while as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens, I was there
(Proverbs 8:22-27)
She was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
when he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
when he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
then I was by him, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
(Proverbs 8:27-31)
so too, let us daily rejoice in Him, with all thanksgiving and gladness! How great is His work in us! how rich His mercy! How deep His love, washing away transgression and patiently restoring our souls!
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
when he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
when he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
then I was by him, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
(Proverbs 8:27-31)
so too, let us daily rejoice in Him, with all thanksgiving and gladness! How great is His work in us! how rich His mercy! How deep His love, washing away transgression and patiently restoring our souls!
all things are created by Him, for Him and through Him. (Genesis 1:1, Romans 1:20, Hebrews 11:3, Acts 17:24)
nothing is impossible with God.
all things are sustained and held together by Him (Colossians 1:16-17)
when men turn away from God, they worship created things -e.g. rocks (Romans 1:21-23)
the heavens and the earth are reserved to be judged by fire:
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire,
being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people
(2 Peter 3:7)
will God judge Himself by fire? of course not
then He is separate from created things, not dwelling in a temple made by hands, and jealously storing up wrath for those that take wood and metal and stone and say "here is god"
so let's be careful not to fall into pantheism.
there is One God, the earth is His footstool, and He considers the isles "a little thing"
These veses should be enough to prove you incorect about your assumption. As you can clearly see, the Messiah did not allow it!
Matt 5:16
16 "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
NASU
Matt 19:17
"Why are you asking Me about what is good ? There is only One who is good
NASU
Mark 10:18
Why do you call Me good ? No one is good except God alone.
NASU
Luke 18:19
Why do you call Me good ? No one is good except God alone
NASU
Matt 5:16
16 "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
NASU
Matt 19:17
"Why are you asking Me about what is good ? There is only One who is good
NASU
Mark 10:18
Why do you call Me good ? No one is good except God alone.
NASU
Luke 18:19
Why do you call Me good ? No one is good except God alone
NASU
You are so far off subject that I have no inclination as to the points you are implying on subject! You seem to be quite legalistic and I again remind you that just to post a verse without relating what you get out of it is speaking down to others, arrogance; a lack of true impute is often the culprit to such reply's.
all things are created by Him, for Him and through Him. (Genesis 1:1, Romans 1:20, Hebrews 11:3, Acts 17:24)
nothing is impossible with God.
all things are sustained and held together by Him (Colossians 1:16-17)
when men turn away from God, they worship created things -e.g. rocks (Romans 1:21-23)
the heavens and the earth are reserved to be judged by fire:
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire,
being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people
(2 Peter 3:7)
will God judge Himself by fire? of course not
then He is separate from created things, not dwelling in a temple made by hands, and jealously storing up wrath for those that take wood and metal and stone and say "here is god"
so let's be careful not to fall into pantheism.
there is One God, the earth is His footstool, and He considers the isles "a little thing"
all things are created by Him, for Him and through Him. (Genesis 1:1, Romans 1:20, Hebrews 11:3, Acts 17:24)
nothing is impossible with God.
all things are sustained and held together by Him (Colossians 1:16-17)
when men turn away from God, they worship created things -e.g. rocks (Romans 1:21-23)
the heavens and the earth are reserved to be judged by fire:
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire,
being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly people
(2 Peter 3:7)
will God judge Himself by fire? of course not
then He is separate from created things, not dwelling in a temple made by hands, and jealously storing up wrath for those that take wood and metal and stone and say "here is god"
so let's be careful not to fall into pantheism.
there is One God, the earth is His footstool, and He considers the isles "a little thing"
That proves nothing of the sort...
Except that Jesus alone was good and therefore God.
Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and f
Matthew 28:9-10 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
There are dozens of similar passages. So please.
Except that Jesus alone was good and therefore God.
Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and f
Matthew 28:9-10 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
There are dozens of similar passages. So please.
Crossnote, if anyone were tell you that you were good. What would your answer be? If Christians claim to strive to be like Jesus, wouldn't your answer be the same as his? If it was, as it should be, I can assure you neither I nor anyone else here would think you were implying you are God.
If you were to tell me I was good. My answer would be the same as Jesus. "No one is good except YHVH alone."
You do not have to be God to receive the attention Jesus got. Everyone around Jesus may have truly thought he was the prophesied anointed king to come that would restore Israel. So yes they may have greeted him and stood in awe of him. But let me remind everyone he was killed before he ever fulfilled any part of the prophetic office of messiah king.
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Listen, Jesus said, ''No one is good except God''...that means me. God may declare me righteous on account of my faith in the Messiah but that IS NOT an inherent righteousness of mine. God alone is inherently righteous and deserves our worship, this is why JESUS NEVER REFUSED WORSHIP of Himself...because He is God.