Rev.Gram

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walkbyfaith937

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Soooooooooooo Idk if anyone knows who Rev.Gram is most people don't here ,but what do you guys think about what he said "And I would say to Muslims in this country, if they want to practice Sharia law, go back to where you came from, to those nations that recognize sharia law"
I personally lovvved it, I am a fan for sending Muslims back to their own place putting then in their own country and just dropping a something on it that goes BANG but sadly that is not the Christian thing to say or do so I will pray. To me I don't believe that it could ever happen. Well I hope It couldn't. Once again what is everyone's thoughts on this?? :)
 
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Heh I used to think this too mostly due to the war and all. I don't advocate Sharia in any way for it is a law made possibly by Satan himself.

However I suppose I am in somewhat a difficult position. It's lke I want us to bring as many of our middle east brothers out of the islamic hell they are forced to live in, but obviously, we don't want them bringing that damn idol of Mecca with them. Such a tricky century is this one.

EDIT: Also I should add I have never heard of Rev. Gram. Just going by that comment I think he just fears for our people, which is good of him. I just hope he doesn't let that get to his head, and realizes we have to try to save our brothers from the hand of islam.
 
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notuptome

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True that we are to evangelize not turn away those who need the gospel. Religious people are the hardest to win to Christ. Scripture tells us to be witnesses for Christ. Now if we are a strong witness for Christ then those who prefer darkness will flee the light we shine forth. Let it be the Lord Who drives them from His presence not us. Judgment is in the Lords hand not mine. Good thing because my frail human emotions would have resulted in a lot of piles of ashes where before stood those who opposed Christ. Just sayin'.

For the cause of Christ
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Larry_Stotle

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Is Gramma his wife?
 
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walkbyfaith937

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Well i do know there are people there who believe in God and i feel sorry for them. But for the ones who are trying to control who we believe in can go to hell. There is no influencing them people they believe what they believe and they want nothing more then to cut our heads off and hang then on a telephone pole. Rev Gram is so right about telling them to go back to their country for all that. And idk.who Gramma is lol
 

JimJimmers

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Well Walkbyfaith,

I don't want to live under Sharia, but the early Christians lived under something similar. You are right that it's certainly not the Christian thing to do to drop a bomb on millions of people, especially considering a great many of them would be put to death if they converted to Christianity. It's a few people with their thumb on the masses, just like in Soviet Russia.

I hope they all meet Jesus, and know the peace of Christ.
 
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walkbyfaith937

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Well like I said before thats just how i feel but would i actually want to see it? No, there are Christians there as well as children . What's sad is they don't think that way. And yea some people are stuck in their own ways religion or what not but ours don't involve killing ourselves or other people. Its crazy. And i pray every night dor those who don't believe to one day put their faith in God before its to late
 
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chubbena

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I'd say too late because they have infiltrated the society from bottom to top - both USA and Canada. They practically own transportation - from airport to taxi. I was preached Muslim in the taxi from the airport to my destination the last two times I visited NYC, not to mention going through security bared footed with them watching.
 
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walkbyfaith937

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Omg are you serious? Where i live they own all the stores just about and gas stations ect. They are like cockroaches
 

crossnote

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On a political level the U. S. Constitution/Bill of Rights are not compatible with the principles of Sharia Law. They should not be allowed citizenship/voters rights if they still hold to the principles of Sharia. We can't have two law systems in concurrent operation if they oppose one another on various counts.
 
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walkbyfaith937

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I didn't think about that
 
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Tintin

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I don't have much love for Muslims. Around much of the world they persecute Christians like it's going out of style. This includes stealing from them, burning their property and possessions, raping them, torturing them, killing them and telling them to renounce Christ. It's beyond horrible! That said, they are a people created by God and made in His image. I don't advocate returning them to their homeland and then dropping something on them. But I do advocate standing up for God's Truth and not allowing sharia law to become the mainstream. Also, we should stop them from trying to make everyone conform to their disturbed, hateful beliefs.
 
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Kerry

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I wish the U.S. government would read the book "why they Hate" instead of broadcasting what Christians hate. It is like the U.s. government is blind and can't see. They are so concerned with making friends of them by giving money and other things and cannot see that they are using it against us. There are not looking to make friends, they are looking to enforce Sharia law. And it's working, freedom of speech is long gone. Maybe not by law, but how many people have been fired by what they said on Facebook. Even a NBA team owner is being challenged to sell His team and have no affiliation with the NBA based on his freedom of speech,

Imeant say what you want about a christian, but don't say anything else about anybody or you can lose your job.
 
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Kerry

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And a nother stupid thing, if your fighting an Islamic army. They are not afraid to die, because they get 70 virgins and access to the 7th door of heaven. But, if they touch a pig they are condemned to hell. So coat your bullets with pig blood and drop bacon not bombs.
 
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walkbyfaith937

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Lol drop bacon not bombs hehehehe thats funny but I 100% agree with everyone
 
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Muslims aren't "them" any more, they are our next door neighbors.

A man came to speak at our church who works for the US is Afghanistan. He lives in a fortress and if he must go out he travels by armored car. All missionaries there are under cover, yet Christianity is growing. It is growing because the people see the advantages to being Christian.

That is what the early church did in the first 100 or so years. They formed close communities of people who loved and shared, it was attractive. We must clean our churches!!! We must learn to love. We must stop trying to spread ourselves all over the world but form Christ centered small groups of people who are lights for Christ.

There is a medium sized town in Afghanistan that has a school for 30 girls, only 30 in the whole town. He said when girls become educated they spread good, and 30 are like magnets for other girls. They are being watched.

We, on cc, are being watched. We are being watched when we give out hope and love. We are being watched when we try to drown out and harm other Christians because they don't agree with us, instead of teaching what we think is right. We can't talk Muslims into seeing God, we can only show them God.
 

proverbs35

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As Christians, I believe it's our job to be a witness to others. It's good to know that some Muslims are forsaking that religion and coming to Christ.

However, I am also concerned about the growing Muslim population and influence in America. Middle Easterner Muslims own and/or operate a lot of gas stations in Alabama and other southern states. The police just raided several. Here's the news report.

BBIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WIAT) – Jefferson County deputies and DEA officers are on location at a Texaco gas station in the Birmingham area. The bust is part of the nationwide Operation Red Tide. The DEA is serving warrants throughout the state on Wednesday.

DEA spokesman Rusty Payne spoke with CBS42′s Kaitlin McCulley. He tells her that they expect to make 25-30 arrests in Alabama, with the majority of them coming from the Birmingham area. The raids are targeting synthetic drugs, including stimulants and hallucinogens, that are being marketed as herbs, incense, and aromas. Payne says the drugs, which are manufactured in China, are very dangerous.


This raids aren’t just over the health concerns these drugs create though. Payne says they believe the profits being made off of these drugs are being wired back to places like Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and other Middle Eastern countries, making this a national security risk as well.


Payne says in one local smoke shop, they discovered that $38 million had been transferred to the owner’s home back in Yemen. The money was transferred over 150 wire transfers.


Multiple DEA raids underway throughout the state | CBS42 WIAT

Americans need to watch and pray. Some of the Muslims in America who own and operate seemingly legit businesses like gas stations are using them as a front for illegal drug activity and to raise money, so they can send it back to the Middle East to help fund terrorism.
 
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Kerry

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Islamic people have long made their funds off of drugs. In Afghanistan their are more poppy fields than in anywhere in the world. Drugs support terrorism.
 

Atwood

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Soooooooooooo Idk if anyone knows who Rev.Gram is most people don't here ,but what do you guys think about what he said "And I would say to Muslims in this country, if they want to practice Sharia law, go back to where you came from, to those nations that recognize sharia law"
I personally lovvved it, I am a fan for sending Muslims back to their own place putting then in their own country and just dropping a something on it that goes BANG but sadly that is not the Christian thing to say or do so I will pray. To me I don't believe that it could ever happen. Well I hope It couldn't. Once again what is everyone's thoughts on this?? :)
Well FaithWalker,

Muslims and their sharia law are indeed a threat to the welfare of any nation. There are many sharks in the water: Islamists, Communists, Humanists, etc. Which is worse? A culture that enforces sharia law, or a culture that murders babies by the millions, endorses sodomy, and wishes to stifle the gospel with anti-hate speech laws? And if a bomb were dropped on the Islamists, another substitute would rise. No sooner were the Nazis bombed, than Communism flourished. No sooner did Communism collapse in much of the world, but Islamists came out of the wood work. It seems the enemy is not short for -isms and strategies. And how bad is it to have a culture which is nominally Christian with over half going to church every week with blue laws vs working on Sunday -- but these religious people are only church members who never got saved?
 
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Kerry

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Well FaithWalker,

Muslims and their sharia law are indeed a threat to the welfare of any nation. There are many sharks in the water: Islamists, Communists, Humanists, etc. Which is worse? A culture that enforces sharia law, or a culture that murders babies by the millions, endorses sodomy, and wishes to stifle the gospel with anti-hate speech laws? And if a bomb were dropped on the Islamists, another substitute would rise. No sooner were the Nazis bombed, than Communism flourished. No sooner did Communism collapse in much of the world, but Islamists came out of the wood work. It seems the enemy is not short for -isms and strategies. And how bad is it to have a culture which is nominally Christian with over half going to church every week with blue laws vs working on Sunday -- but these religious people are only church members who never got saved?
I tried to rep you but it wouldn't let me, but right on. Islam is creeping in the face of America and our leaders don't even recognize it. Political correctness has done major harm to this country and I'm afraid that our freedom of speech is already gone. You can't say anything about anybody except a christian. Post the wrong words on Facebook and you could fired and defamed or even demonized.