New Muslim

[Osiyo]

@GodTruth, pleased to chat with you, I am humbled by this chance. It is interesting that you come with Ezekiel 18:20 though. I just looked at the entire context of the chapter about a plea from God to Israel that they return to His ways using Jesus as the Son that is in this example. And asks the question: “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? This is a plea from God to Israel (we the blood bought have been drafted into Israel through the blood of the Lamb) again He pleas : Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

Now my friend, this is a warning about returning to God and living or rejecting God and dying, but I don't see any salvation in this, meaning where is the act of salvation? We, believe that God somehow being so large fit Himself into a tiny baby body. And lived and breathed the same air that we do. That He shed all His glory and power, lived among mankind. This is enough for now, looking forward to hear from you.

 

[Cycel]

Hello everyone
i am new here and i am muslim.
I would love to be friend with you and if you have any question on islam and muslims feel free to ask or pm me
Shalom

Welcome. We get very few Muslims. I have many questions. Are you from Niger?

 

[GodTruth]

@GodTruth, pleased to chat with you, I am humbled by this chance. It is interesting that you come with Ezekiel 18:20 though. I just looked at the entire context of the chapter about a plea from God to Israel that they return to His ways using Jesus as the Son that is in this example. And asks the question: “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? This is a plea from God to Israel (we the blood bought have been drafted into Israel through the blood of the Lamb) again He pleas : Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

Now my friend, this is a warning about returning to God and living or rejecting God and dying, but I don't see any salvation in this, meaning where is the act of salvation? We, believe that God somehow being so large fit Himself into a tiny baby body. And lived and breathed the same air that we do. That He shed all His glory and power, lived among mankind. This is enough for now, looking forward to hear from you.

the act of salvation brother is no associate partners with and and do good deeds. we all see people worshiping humans, nature, sun or moon.....etc. anyone who does not worship the One true God will be damned for hell..
and brother as i told u no one dies for other mans sins so i believe jesus cannot die for ur sin.. if u rape someone u''ll pay for it and not anyone else

 

[GodTruth]

Welcome. We get very few Muslims. I have many questions. Are you from Niger?

No brother,
from India

 

[GodTruth]

Welcome. We get very few Muslims. I have many questions. Are you from Niger?

What do u wanna ask?

 

[Cycel]

Why ... do thee follow a religion that makes you worship an idol and a book that is the recitation of Satan?

Really? Your first thought would not be to greet a new member? Do you feel so threatened that you must immediately go on the attack?

Do you really believe Muslims think they are worshipping an idol? An idol is a physical representation of a god, is it not? Muslims do not allow physical representations of God or the prophets so your charge does not seem reasonable. Also, you may think Islam is the worship of Satan, but no Muslim thinks that, so this hardly seems like a profitable approach.

Questions can be to the point, and tough, without being inflammatory.

 

[maxwel]

Welcome. We get very few Muslims. I have many questions. Are you from Niger?

Actually we get quite a few Muslims,
but usually they are pretending not to be Muslims.
They usually pretend to be agnostic, or pretend to be "seekers"...
most of them are fairly deceptive.

Islam actually teaches that it is alright to lie, and to deceive,
as long as the lies and deception meet certain criteria.
Apparently lying is such a big enough part of Islamic faith that they
have a special word for it, and lots of rules to govern it.
It's basically just one of their doctrines.
This doctrine of lying is called al taqiya... you can look it up.

It's hard for a Christian to believe, but it's real.

Oh, and expect Muslims to lie, and say they don't ever lie -
if they have an entire doctrine regarding all the "righteous" ways they can lie...
you have to expect them to lie about it.

 

[heavenlyparadise]

Hello,,
The Allah and The God of Abraham are same God. Some day in the future, you will be blessed if you do good to your neighbors.
The God of Jesus will lead all nations(including Catholic, all kinds of protestant sects, and all kinds of muslims into this environment. Just do good to your neighbors then you will be in the Heavenly paradise.

 

[Cycel]

What do u wanna ask?

First off I was trying to identify the flag. I wanted to get a sense of the cultural background you are coming from, but perhaps you would like to keep this secret?

Many of us have the view that Islam can be quite harsh and even cruel. Take for example the hardline Islamist radicals in Nigeria that routinely murder and kidnap school children and commit other atrocities on a regular basis. Muslims represent about 45% of the population of Nigeria but this one group is attempting to force strict Islam on the entire population. In the rest of the world Islamic terrorists have committed atrocities in nearly every country. You probably don't support such acts but in your view why is there so much violence originating with practitioners of this religion?

 

[Tintin]

Hello,,
The Allah and The God of Abraham are same God. Some day in the future, you will be blessed if you do good to your neighbors.
The God of Jesus will lead all nations(including Catholic, all kinds of protestant sects, and all kinds of muslims into this environment. Just do good to your neighbors then you will be in the Heavenly paradise.

And I see you're true colours and that's why I don't agree with many of your posts.

 

[Hizikyah]

Revelation 13:7, "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And authority was given him over all tribes, and peoples and languages, and nations."

Revelation 13:15, "And he had power to give life to the likeness of the beast, that the likeness of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the likeness of the beast should be killed."

 

[GodTruth]

Actually we get quite a few Muslims,
but usually they are pretending not to be Muslims.
They usually pretend to be agnostic, or pretend to be "seekers"...
most of them are fairly deceptive.

Islam actually teaches that it is alright to lie, and to deceive,
as long as the lies and deception meet certain criteria.
Apparently lying is such a big enough part of Islamic faith that they
have a special word for it, and lots of rules to govern it.
It's basically just one of their doctrines.
This doctrine of lying is called al taqiya... you can look it up.

It's hard for a Christian to believe, but it's real.

Oh, and expect Muslims to lie, and say they don't ever lie -
if they have an entire doctrine regarding all the "righteous" ways they can lie...
you have to expect them to lie about it.

Do u believe christianity teaches this?
Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i guess not.. its just bad people..
black sheeps are in every communuity !!

 

[maxwel]

Do u believe christianity teaches this?
Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i guess not.. its just bad people..
black sheeps are in every communuity !!

Diverting the issue by raising another issue is a poor debate tactic.

If Muslims have an actual codified doctrine of lying,
then it makes it impossible for Christians to have an honest conversation with them...
because lies and deception are fully embraced by the Islamic faith,
in the doctrine of al taqiya.

It is a waste of time to expect a Muslim to discuss anything honestly,
because his own religion teaches him that lying is alright.

 

[Osiyo]

@GodTruth, I am back, had to go shopping of all things, the flesh has to be feed. Could you please, would you please explain to me the way you get to heaven, I mean who or how do you get a ticket for the ride to heaven. Who opens the doors to heaven for you? Hello India, greetings from Germany.

 

[Hizikyah]

Do u believe christianity teaches this?
Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i guess not.. its just bad people..
black sheeps are in every communuity !!

The Catholic Church is not black sheep, they are the harlot spoken of in Revelation, an enemy of the Creator. Purely satanic, and those of the inner doctrine know this, those of the outer doctrine (common, lay person) has no clue.

Islam is much the same way, that is why top Islamic leaders will meet with the Pope and have no proble, and this will increase as time goes on. The Catholicism know that "Mary worship" is none other than the worship of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, same as the top Imams know that the kabba worship is none other than 4 element worship/kabbalisim.

 

[Cycel]

Actually we get quite a few Muslims,
but usually they are pretending not to be Muslims.
They usually pretend to be agnostic, or pretend to be "seekers"...
most of them are fairly deceptive.

I stand corrected.

Islam actually teaches that it is alright to lie, and to deceive,
as long as the lies and deception meet certain criteria.
Apparently lying is such a big enough part of Islamic faith that they
have a special word for it, and lots of rules to govern it.
It's basically just one of their doctrines.
This doctrine of lying is called al taqiya... you can look it up.

Yes, I have heard of this.

It's hard for a Christian to believe, but it's real.

Oh, and expect Muslims to lie, and say they don't ever lie -
if they have an entire doctrine regarding all the "righteous" ways they can lie...
you have to expect them to lie about it.

You've made me chuckle. I'd say you have a valid point.

I suppose the question to GodTruth is how can we know that he is not employing al taqiya for the promotion of Islam?

 

[GodTruth]

First off I was trying to identify the flag. I wanted to get a sense of the cultural background you are coming from, but perhaps you would like to keep this secret?

Many of us have the view that Islam can be quite harsh and even cruel. Take for example the hardline Islamist radicals in Nigeria that routinely murder and kidnap school children and commit other atrocities on a regular basis. Muslims represent about 45% of the population of Nigeria but this one group is attempting to force strict Islam on the entire population. In the rest of the world Islamic terrorists have committed atrocities in nearly every country. You probably don't support such acts but in your view why is there so much violence originating with practitioners of this religion?

my flag is indian flag bro..
and i've even linked my facebook profile in about. u can find out a lot about me
the militants in nigeria are sick people and they only represent how retard they are..
all islamic groups have condoned such sickness !!

 

[Hizikyah]

The Catholic Church is not black sheep, they are the harlot spoken of in Revelation, an enemy of the Creator. Purely satanic, and those of the inner doctrine know this, those of the outer doctrine (common, lay person) has no clue.

Islam is much the same way, that is why top Islamic leaders will meet with the Pope and have no proble, and this will increase as time goes on. The Catholicism know that "Mary worship" is none other than the worship of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, same as the top Imams know that the kabba worship is none other than 4 element worship/kabbalisim.

I want to add, I have noting against the Catholic lay people or Muslim lay people. Many of them are very good people, just misled.

 

[GodTruth]

if anyone thinks i am lying please check my facebook profile and confirm and please don't say islam teaches to lie..
Hazrat Safwaan bin Sulaim radiallaho ta’ala anhu narrates that messenger of Allah Muhammad(peace be on him)was asked,
“Can a believer be a coward? He said, “Yes, he can be coward. Then it was asked whether a believer could be a miser? He replied, “Yes, he can be a miser”, it was then asked whether a believer could be a liar? He replied, “No, a believer cannot be a liar.”

 

[GodTruth]

The Catholic Church is not black sheep, they are the harlot spoken of in Revelation, an enemy of the Creator. Purely satanic, and those of the inner doctrine know this, those of the outer doctrine (common, lay person) has no clue.

Islam is much the same way, that is why top Islamic leaders will meet with the Pope and have no proble, and this will increase as time goes on. The Catholicism know that "Mary worship" is none other than the worship of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, same as the top Imams know that the kabba worship is none other than 4 element worship/kabbalisim.

i didn't say catholic church is black sheep.. its a proverb for bad people. bad people are in every religion but that doesn't mean the religion is bad.. for instance crusades by extremist so called christians killed millions by forcing them to accept jesus and they even killed christians who opposed their way of doing things !!