DID GOD CREATE EVIL?

[svedbygrace]

Richie

To answer your question honestly. Well those questions are not for me to answer

I did not think so ! You are scared to answer them , you know the corner they will back you up into, unless you deny God being Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge !

 

[shrimp]

God may have created Evil, but that in itself does not make Him evil.

 

[Richie_2uk]

Richie



I did not think so ! You are scared to answer them , you know the corner they will back you up into, unless you deny God being Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge !

hey! you don't tell me that I'm not scared to answer, I gave you an answer. IF I was scared, i would not bother to answer your question at all.

I was being truthful. I cant answer honestly, Because one main reason. I CAN't READ MINDS, I Don't Know God mind at the time now do I?

I don't deny God's wisdom, I dont Deny God's knowledge. But you asked me to be honest and I was. If you knew the answer to the questions why ask? is that to see if people can answer for you? because you really didn't know yourself?

God knows all. and what he did, and done in heaven was God's concern not mine, or yours. But I walk with God in my journey. Who are you to question people of something you really don't know yourself?

 

[Richie_2uk]

Richie



I did not think so ! You are scared to answer them , you know the corner they will back you up into, unless you deny God being Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge !

You gave me questions that I cannot answer. Because I don't know God's mind and heart at the time of Lucifer rebelion. Only God can answer your questions. But if you know? why ask? who are you to tell people that they are scared? I forgive you brother, But you are not going to bring me down because of your lack of knowledge.

 

[Richie_2uk]

Richie



I did not think so ! You are scared to answer them , you know the corner they will back you up into, unless you deny God being Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge !

Whats up? Cat got your tongue?

 

[homwardbound]

" DID GOD CREATE EVIL? "

In my personal view, if we believe that God created a perfect world and he's sovereign, where did evil come from?
There are those who believe that His sovereign control includes the creation of evil, and they base that conclusion on the words of " Isaiah 45:7 " were it says: " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil, I the lord do all these things"

So does God create evil? most certainly "NOT" If he was the author of evil, then he would certainly not be a good God who is worthy of all worship and praise, much less trusted to have our well being in mind.

The idea of a good God creating His own enemy and subject to His own wrath seems inconsistent for a good God to mastermind the idea of evil, will it into existence and still be considered a good God.

Rather, God created man in his image with the freedom to choose. With his freedom came the opportunity to rebel against Him. Man did rebel (Genesis 3) and the rest is history. The records of human history chronicle how God uses everything-Even the chaos of his world - To bring about his glory and purpose. Those purposes include our growth in becoming more Christlike.

So you maybe wondering what the point of "Isaiah 45: 7"? Well God reveals His almighty and awesome character to us so we can have the confidence that comes from knowing - even in the most darkest, desperate and discouraging times - that God is continually up to something good in our lives...............

Here is a thought? God created all that is good, includes Lucifer a bright and shining Angel, with free choice as all have this free choice to choose.
Lucifer gained pride in heaven over a third of the Angels, whom he gave answers to from their questions they had. Lucifer going to God for the answers, and God giving them to him. Lucifer gave these answers to these angels, who marveled over his answers to them.

God saw this going on, and made mankind here on this earth, and well pleased God was and is over God's creation, all of us.
Well Lucifer who lost part of God's light that had shone through him, was not as bright as before and thise convinced angels came wondering to Lucifer, and so ever since lucifer was and ahs been out to steal. kill and destroy, however and whatever he can.
So God had given Lucifer much knowledge, and is why to me i need none for pride and arrogance as Lucifer got and has to this very day, even though he is a defeated foe by the cross of Christ

Perfect love is God and perfect love casts out all fear, by trust to God to turn all into the good for us all that have chosen to believe God Romans 8:28
that simple, so just trust and God will do, for God is faithful, period. time to beleive maybe? and stand fast in belief maybe? Why need knowledge to get proud and boastful?

 

[prove-all]

[h=3]Matthew 13:33 (KJV)[/h]Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

one third of the bad stars, stripped of there place in heaven,
because they did not obey Gods laws,are now called demons,
and are sent packing down to earth, mixed in with man.
now the whole earth is all leavened



one third of good stars,where destroyed,
and on this earth as angeles.



one third of the stars, are still in heaven above us.

 

[Patnubay]

Inside the Glory of God. ( Who created evil )


I have a lot of questions that bother me all the time. But the most intriguing of all is “ Who created evil”. I know God is good. I know that there is no way, a God, who is so good, will create evil. But I also know God created all things. If that is so, He must have created evil. However, how can I reconcile the God, whom I believe to be the ultimate good will create evil which will eventually has the capability to destroy His own “good”. Most explanations I have found in my research point me to the direction that it was our freewill that caused this confusion. God gave us freewill to make our own choice to choose between good and bad. I truly agree on this premise but this does not really answer the question. Freewill gives us the freedom to choose between good and evil. A choice we have to make. And I understand and accept that “good” was placed by God. Then now, who placed the “evil” on the table? Who made it available for us to choose? Why is it there? Where did it come from? If it is the product of our imagination, again, why is it there. Who put it there in the first place.
In Genesis Chapter 1 verse 1 – 3 , it says, 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
When God created the heavens and earth, there was emptiness. There was nothing there. God felt something was missing. The Holy Spirit was hovering over the waters and found it unexciting. It was pitch black. So God said, “ let there be light” and He saw that it was good. And good was created.
On verse 1, it says, When God created the heavens and earth, it was empty, and “ darkness was over the surface of the deep”. So the space that is not occupied by heavens and earth is just empty and it is dark.
Then God continued to do the creation to fill in the heavens and the earth. Outside the heavens and earth is just emptiness and darkness.
When God created light and He found it good, He knew it was where His glory belongs. He created it and filled it with His glory. And that is where “good” lives. When He created us, He placed us INSIDE His glory. He wanted us to live and enjoy the “good” that is His glory. When He placed freewill in our minds, He gave us the choice to but “ NOT “ between good and evil BUT a choice between “ to be inside His glory which is “good” and outside His glory which is “Emptiness or Darkness”. If we choose to go outside His glory, we decide to go for the emptiness which is actually like a piece of blank paper. A place or a state of nothingness; a matrix of which anything can originate. There is no rules, no guidance, nothing. This is where anything can just be made. We can even create here an exact opposite of the God-created good. It is just a blank piece of space that we can put anything in it. And this is where evil came from. So sad to say, it is us thru our God given freewill chose to live outside God’s glory and thereby created evil.
Luckily, when God created us, He did not make us like any other creation. He breathed a part of Him in us. And with that, He made us capable to remember His glory on the other side. That breath of life keeps telling us to go back to His Glory. But again, our freewill decides………

 

[shrimp]

Matthew 13:33 (KJV)

Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

one third of the bad stars, stripped of there place in heaven,
because they did not obey Gods laws,are now called demons,
and are sent packing down to earth, mixed in with man.
now the whole earth is all leavened



one third of good stars,where destroyed,
and on this earth as angeles.



one third of the stars, are still in heaven above us.

Angel are not destroyed stars. something that is destroyed cannot be used. Also, The Bible does not say that angels were stars. So, according to the Bible, God has two thirds of the angels and Satan has one third of the angels (now known as demons)

 

[svedbygrace]

For anyone who has the courage to answer, if they believe God created Lucifer, please answer these questions :

#1.Did God know that before He created him that he would rebel ? ? Yes or No ?

#2. Could Lucifer had rebelled if God did not create him in the first place ? Yes or No ?

 

[shrimp]

For anyone who has the courage to answer, if they believe God created Lucifer, please answer these questions :

#1.Did God know that before He created him that he would rebel ? ? Yes or No ?

#2. Could Lucifer had rebelled if God did not create him in the first place ? Yes or No ?

I'll bite. yes and no

 

[shrimp]

in that order

 

[prove-all]

my thought

God made lucifer
a morning star
yes God knew he would not listen i believe
as a star he left his habation in vain


he wanted to be above God
and be in front of the bright morning star


one third bad stars
one third good stars

where lost and no more in heaven above use
now on earth in spirit as angeles and demons

one third of stars are still in there habation

danials to and fro and knowledge increase is,
man going back and forth to heaven(space),which is right above us
mans telecopes are powerfull and we know
how universe made and things in it.and it unlocks his secrets
that we could not do before.

God says in this age and time, we will be given the seceret of his covent promises
and it will be a witness to man, that the universe was made by him.

 

[prove-all]

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[h=2]

Re: DID GOD CREATE EVIL?[/h]

Matthew 13:33 (KJV)

Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

this is talking about man, not sure if applies to stars
i remember somewhere in verses
that he did the same to his creation the universe​

 

[2Thewaters]

satan says God created evil and it is necessary to keep the universe in balance for evil is needed to offset the Good to balance it

satan invented the I ching yin and yang satanic theory also
and he invented the force in star wars
satan is everywhere

God hates sin and is now comming to destroy every sinner who does not repent and
create a clean sinfree univers and he will destroy lying satan once and for all.

 

[2Thewaters]

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


he will destroy all sin including the devil.

Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.


Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law ...
which I commanded ...in Horeb the mountain
(and smpoke the ten commandments from Horeb)
for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.


Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.


all other gospel religions forget the law
so the curse is coming.

 

[PennEd]

Just as God did not create the I-Phone, but created the intellect for man to use to create it, so God created free-will in man which resulted in man CHOOSING to do evil.

 

[svedbygrace]

I'll bite. yes and no

Explain your response please ?

 

[shrimp]

Yes to question one and no to question two.

 

[svedbygrace]

I'll bite. yes and no

Ok, If God created Lucifer after knowing good and well what he was going to do, and knowing that if He did not create him he could not have done that evil, then was it God's Will for him to do the evil that he did ? or Did God create him to fulfill His Purpose ?