It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security

[Atwood]

Every man's work (convert) [sic] shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work (convert) [sic] of what sort it is.

If any man's work (convert) [sic] abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

If any man's work (convert) [sic] shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Paul will receive a reward for his Corinthian converts that are saved, but will experience a sense of loss over his converts that are lost/burned

What an incredible misreading and perversion of scripture. Look at it again, Seabass.
There are no men and no converts burned in this passage (which describe the Judgment Seat of Christ where the only issue is rewards and loss of rewards -- nothing about going to Heaven or Gehenna. Inserting "convert" here is invalid. Every Christian's work will be judged for reward or loss of reward.

0 According to the grace of God which was given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder I laid a foundation; and another buildeth thereon. But let each man take heed how he buildeth thereon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 But if any man buildeth on the foundation gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 each man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it is revealed in fire; and the fire itself shall prove each man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work shall abide which he built thereon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as through fire.

Most clearly Christians' works are burned if they are unworthy, but not the Christian. This passage supports eternal security. The Christian who has done unworthy works is nonetheless saved, though he loses reward.


Gal 4:11 does not support your POV, neither does it negate eternal security.
Neither does 1 Cor 9:27 support your twisting of 1 Cor 3. Neither does Numbers 14:12.

I can have a fleshly son and he will always be my fleshly son whether he is saved today and lost tomorrow/. It does not work the same with with God's spiritual family. God can disinherit his elect, Num 14:12.

If you read the context of Num 14:12 it concerns unbelievers; those people who did not believe in Him. "elect" is not in the passage.

Seabass, why are you so intent on talking yourself out of trusting Christ as your only, sufficient and efficient, Savior?

 

[svedbygrace]

To deny Eternal Security is very disrespectful to the Power of God 1 Peter 1:5 !

 

[Atwood]

When he says, "[SUP]9 [/SUP]But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For God is not unjust so as to forget your work and the love which you have shown toward His name, in having ministered and in still ministering to the saints. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence so as to realize the full assurance of hope until the end, [SUP]12 [/SUP]so that you will not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises." don't you think he is saying to continue in Jesus Christ.

Hebrews addressed professed Christians. The writer says he thinks they are really saved (better things . . . salvation). But some of them may not be saved.

Without that change, it is evident, if not to us, then to God, that we did not truly accept Jesus into our hearts.

I don't know any place in the Bible that says one gets saved by "accept Jesus into our hearts." The word normally and frequently used is believe/faith; that is trust Christ as your Savior. We are not saved by believing that Christ gives us a chance to be Saved; but by trusting Him as Savior.

And once that change has happened, and then we turn away, then we are lost. I do not believe that this is a back and forth thing with each of our sins and requests for forgiveness. That's just not how it works, in my opinion.

But the Bible does not teach that. If you are saved, you are saved; you have eternal life and will never perish. We do have an issue of daily foot-washing forgiveness, wood-shed forgiveness (escaping chastizement).

[/quote]But when we start saying that God does not exist and that Jesus was just a man, I think that we have rejected salvation that we may have once had.[/QUOTE]

1 John tells us that apostates were never saved and that their departure from the group of professed Christians proves they were never saved.

Can you let go of your doubts in the Lord Jesus as Savior, and actually depend on Him to get you to Heaven now?

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved; no ifs ands or buts.

 

[svedbygrace]

Hebrews addressed professed Christians. The writer says he thinks they are really saved (better things . . . salvation). But some of them may not be saved.

Heb 6:9 destroys any false notions that the saved loose Salvation, the very thought is disrespectful and blasphemous to God !


I don't know any place in the Bible that says one gets saved by "accept Jesus into our hearts." The word normally and frequently used is believe/faith; that is trust Christ as your Savior. We are not saved by believing that Christ gives us a chance to be Saved; but by trusting Him as Savior.



But the Bible does not teach that. If you are saved, you are saved; you have eternal life and will never perish. We do have an issue of daily foot-washing forgiveness, wood-shed forgiveness (escaping chastizement).

But when we start saying that God does not exist and that Jesus was just a man, I think that we have rejected salvation that we may have once had.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

1 John tells us that apostates were never saved and that their departure from the group of professed Christians proves they were never saved.

Can you let go of your doubts in the Lord Jesus as Savior, and actually depend on Him to get you to Heaven now?

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved; no ifs ands or buts.[/QUOTE]

 

[Atwood]

Atwood,

So far, you are the only one with the man made traditions. But then you and all sola scripturists

Cassian, why do you go on and on just saying things without any Bible proof? It is a waste of time, if not participation in satanic "Yea, hath God said.

As to what is God's Word, again, either give proof or retract. We agree that the Bible is God's Word. Now if you have something else which you claim is God's Word, something readily available to men-in-general now, bring it forth an prove it. Or retract for addition(s) to the Bible.

the Bible is not only NOT clear, but also not auuthoritative.

The Lord Jesus says it is clear and authoritative, proving with "It is written" and chiding men for being slow of heart to believe it. Since it is God's Word and God is the ultimate authority, it is authoritative. Also profitable for rebuke and correction.

to Christ's Church, to use it as I Tim 3:16 states

1 Tim says not such thing. It is for the Man of God. But also it is the means of convicting the ungodly, like yourself.

You obviously have never read early Church history.

I have both studied and taught Church History. I have the Church Fathers in my library as well as many history books.

But if it is given to individuals then the Holy Spirit lied in II Peter 1:20-21 and also JUde who states that it was given ONCE. Jude 3. If it is given to each, then we don't need the Bible either. It would become superfluous.

Your argument is not cogent. Neither do the verses you refer to prove your claims. Scripture is not of private interpretation; one may not take an isolated verse and make it contradict the rest of the Bible. The passage says nothing about some ecclesiastical authority being the official interpreter.

You have heard of the Great Commission of Matt 19:28

The Gt Comm doesn't specify when it would be fulfilled, the going into all the world. I think probably the apostles and early disciples did that; though I don't know any proof that they reached the Western Hemisphere or Australia. It is possible, but also irrelevant to a discussion of eternal security or the authority of the Bible.

Most of what you posted is just you saying things -- proving nothing.

Now I am going to answer your Present Tense Canard separately, as it is an old canard of yours and needs addressing.

PS
John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

2 Corinthians 1:22
And who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

 

[svedbygrace]

Heb 6:9 exposes the false notions that the writer thought anyone saved or having salvation could fall away !

 

[peacefulbeliever]

1. Every man's work (convert) shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work (convert) of what sort it is.
   
   If any man's work (convert) abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
   
   If any man's work (convert) shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
   
   Paul will receive a reward for his Corinthian converts that are saved, but will experience a sense of loss over his converts that are lost/burned as h would over his Galatian converts if they were lost, Gal 4:11. If Paul's converts are lost, Paul himself shall be saved as long as he remains faithful,1 Cor 9:27
   
   
   I can have a fleshly son and he will always be my fleshly son whether he is saved today and lost tomorrow/. It does not work the same with with God's spiritual family. God can disinherit his elect, Num 14:12.

You are adding the word 'convert' - Scripture says - Every man's work . . . ergon - (from ergo - to work) 1. business, employment, that which any one is occupied; 2. that which one undertakes to do, enterprise; undertaking; 3. any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind; 4. an act, deed, thing done: the idea of working is emphasised in opp. to that which is less than work

Galatians 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. WHY? Because they were returning back to the 'law' and desiring to be in bondage (9) so it was the works they were building upon their foundation - and if they did that his 'work' [teaching] would be in vain.

The thing is people are not understanding that before Pentecost man had the holy Spirit upon certain believers and yes, God did remove his Spirit when it was merited. BUT now the church, the body of Christ is BORN again of Spirit - that Spirit is born within us - God created within us a new creature -

And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness, Eph. 4:24
And have put on the new man which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Col. 3:10

it cannot be UN-created nor UN-born. That is the BIG difference between the OT and the church epistles.

The family of God can be compared to our earthly family - God does in Luke 11:11-13. Your seed makes your child yours - God's seed (holy Spirit) makes his child his.

 

[Atwood]

Atwood, So far, you are the only one with the man made traditions.

Cassian, you (in man-made tradition style) in the past posted objections to the plain statements of scripture on eternal security, raising the old present tense nonsense. So here is the answer to that below:

Ye Olde Present Tense Canard, The PTC:

It has been claimed that the use of the present tense in Bible verses (which appear to assert security), destroys eternal security, as if the present tense were the only tense used in such contexts. On such a PTC perversion of God's promise, when scripture says that
"whosoever believes in Him should not perish,"
it may be claimed that the meaning is that whosoever continually believes and does not stop believing" does not perish, but if a Christian should slip up and stop believing some day, he is out of luck.

So if the Bible reports in some story: Joe eats pork chops, that would mean, Joe eats pork chops continually and never stops! So when James says "In many things we all stumble," the meaning would be that the Christian stumbles continually and never stops stumbling. This is perversion of the present tense.

But the Present Tense Canarder need give heed to the following in John 5:1

"Whosoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is begotten of God: and whosoever loves him that begat loves [present tense] [him also that is begotten of him."

On the PTC then, John 5:1 implies eternal security; for it would mean that the Christian not only loves God and other Christians, but continually loves God and other Christians without stopping! Surely only a saved person does that.

On the "present tense canard," this verse would mean that the Christian continually loves and never stops loving; thus how could the Christian be lost?

One way to translate the present tense is with progressive, on-going action, if the context permits it. "Joe eats" would then be "Joe is eating." But the present tense does not imply "without stopping." The present tense in this example does not mean "Joe continually eats and never stops." Actually in the appropriate context, the present tense can mean an action going on"is eating." But the idea of whether or not or how soon it stops is not implied by the present tense. "in many things we all stumble" cannot mean that Christianscontinually sin without stopping, nor even "continually sin.

When the NT says, "believes," it can be translated "is believing."
For the assurance which follows applies to the a Christian in his present time. If at that present time he is believing, he is promised (stretching into the future forever) that he will not perish. Thus if you are right now believing, trusting in Christ (an action indeed going on), you have assurance of eternal life as a consequence.

But to further clench the conclusion, it should be noted that sometimes in an eternal security verse the present tense is not used.

as Philippians 1:6b states:

"He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. "

"He who began [past tense] a good work in you will [ future tense] bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. "

The beginning began at a point in time. Christians don't ooze into being Christians. Their beginning is called a new birth (John 3) when they are begotten by God. A birth, by its very nature, occurs at a point in time. The new birth is a birth to a new life which is eternal, eternal life; i.e., regeneration, as in John 3:16 to everlasting life.

2 Cor 5:17 "Wherefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature: the old things are passed away; behold, they are become new."

John 5:1, 4,18 calls the Christian "begotten of God,"

5:1 "Whosoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is begotten of God: and whosoever loves him that begat loves him also that is begotten of him."

As noted above, on the "present tense canard" this verse would mean that the Christian continually loves and never stops loving; thus how could the Christian be lost? If love is the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5), then how could this man in whose being the Spirit continually brings forth love (without stopping) ever become unsaved?

But when the present tense is used for on-going action, the present tense itself does not indicate "without stopping" nor any particular continuation time.

 

[Atwood]

it cannot be UN-created nor UN-born. That is the BIG difference between the OT and the church epistles.

Good morning, Shalom Peaceful.

Most of what you posted was great. But that part quoted above, does not look quite right. Salvation didn't change essentially from OT to NT. However, before the Church age there was no guarantee that the Holy Spirit would indwell believers. And it says it the gospels, the Spirit had not yet been "given." So some individuals might have the Spirit in the OT and then lose it, like King Saul, and like King David feared.

But having the permanent indwelling of the Spirit is not the same thing as salvation. There is no indication that OT believers could lose salvation.

[/COLOR]Shalom

 

[homwardbound]

Once Upon a Time in the Country of Lower Slobbovia,

a used car salesman told a buyer,
"If you buy this car, you will have an eternal guarantee on this car."

So the buyer bought.
On the way home, the car broke. So the buyer had the car towed back to the used car lot, demanding satisfaction.

The salesman said, "I said if you buy this car," which used the present tense of "buy." Now it is the future, so your guarantee is no good."

The disgruntled buyer contacted the District Attorney, who charged the salesman with fraud.

At the end of the trial, the judge sentenced the salesman to 20 years of hard labor, but added, if you pay your fine of $1000, you will be secure in a release from prison. The salesman had no money to pay, so he went to prison. However, the next day his wife paid his fine for him.

The salesman petitioned the court for a release from prison. But the judge denied it saying, "I told you that if you pay your fine, you will be secure in a release from prison. But I used the present tense when I said, 'If you pay,' and you paid your fine in the future, so you must stay in prison."

Word of all those happenings reached the dictator of the country, who had both the salesman and judge fed to a wood-chipping machine for pettifogging and abusing language.

Justice is only served and completed in Christ's finished work for those that beleive, and God in time will reveal the chaff and the wheat

I saw this once, a man went to hell when he died, and complained he was not to be there, because he trusted Christ, even though he had sinned, Christ took that away and he never took it for granted and used it not for an occasion for his flesh as knowing he was forgiven and is forgiven.

So here come the Devil and has a scroll in his hand, and looks over it and says, why yes, truth you are not suppose to be here. You see that door over there, just go through that door and be where you are suppose to be.
The man heads for the door, and the deceiving Devil stops him, says "BUT" you need to do this, this and this, and then you can go through that door and be where you are suppose to be.
So the man goes and does all those things and comes back and says okay, done. And that Devil, okay, yet here is some other things I Forgot to tell you about doing, go and do theses as well and you can go.
This went on for awhile, to the point every time the man returned, he was sent out with more to do, before he could go, and eventually, there were notes tacked to the door in more to do.

Frustrated, stressed out to the max, tears the note off the door in anger over this now, and falls against thew door.

Guess what, the door opens and he was in Heaven. The door was never locked, but in his mind it was and so he did to get it to open, when the whole time it was open for him from God because he believed God

See the deception here in this world of hell you all?

 

[homwardbound]

YOu are very confused on what Christ accomplished. His atonement was for the sin of the world. He did not forgive all sins of all men from the Cross. He performed a sacrifice. A sacrifice that has the purpose of forgiving sins. Sin, no sin is remitted unless repented of and confessed. It is man's responsibility to confess his sin. Col 1:22 is for all men. Christ made all men acceptable to God through His death and resurrection.

Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Romans 3:25 whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Tell me how soon is any sin past?, before you can ask? So in appreciation if and whenever I sin, I don't ask for more forgiveness in what is received, as being 100% forgiven by Christ at the cross of.
for there is and has never been any forgiveness given without the shedding of blood, and Christ was and is the last shedding is he not

So really is Christ going to come back and shed anymore blood? I mean if you have to ask for more forgiveness every time you sin, then you better stay in your confessional, and not do or say anything more, needing to be prayed up and all
I mean since you want to go to heaven right? Cause you could leave your home and drive to the store and get angry at one of your neighbors and have to get forgiven, so you to your unhappy self trot back to get forgiven and ide in an accident on the way back, as not forgiven, you loose, See the fruitlessness you are preaching. No flesh can be perfect, not possible, read it in Matthew 19, where the disciples were convinced they by Law could not enter Heaven by Law, not able to be 100% perfect and what Christ said in response to their now seeing being annihilated under law.

 

[homwardbound]

You deliberately left out a big verse just to prove your point
[SUP]23 [/SUP]If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
[SUP]
Therein lies the problem with OSAS because that big word ,if presents a condition for which you are responsible for him to present you [/SUP]
[SUP]holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight.

Here is Jesus saying the reason the father has not left him is because he always do those thing that pleases him. Then later on he uses that big word again... If ye continue in my word

John 8
28 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

[SUP]29 [/SUP]And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

[SUP]30 [/SUP]As he spake these words, many believed on him.

[SUP]31 [/SUP]Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

[SUP]32 [/SUP]And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Hebrews 10:35-37

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]35 [/SUP]Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
[SUP]36[/SUP]For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

[SUP]37 [/SUP]For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.



How can you teach ES and OSAS doing nothing,when the writer here is clearly stating after you have done the will of God you might (big word) receive the promise.

So glad you read that next verse, continue in what? Faith the brings forth God's done works in Christ?
Not works that produce Faith, these type are flesh, human nature works under law to be perfect
There are no works of self after the cross. Otherwise the disciples would not have to wait for Father from on high to live in and through them on that day of Pentecost
The war is still the same Flesh self verses the Holy Spirit of God. A newspaper boy reports the news, and the news is wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! look at what god has done while we are yet failures in being perfect. Now this is Mercy beyond measure

 

[homwardbound]

Every man's work (convert) shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work (convert) of what sort it is.

If any man's work (convert) abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

If any man's work (convert) shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Paul will receive a reward for his Corinthian converts that are saved, but will experience a sense of loss over his converts that are lost/burned as h would over his Galatian converts if they were lost, Gal 4:11. If Paul's converts are lost, Paul himself shall be saved as long as he remains faithful,1 Cor 9:27


I can have a fleshly son and he will always be my fleshly son whether he is saved today and lost tomorrow/. It does not work the same with with God's spiritual family. God can disinherit his elect, Num 14:12.

Tell me, who will not stay trusting God, when they see they are 100% forgiven and even if they sin again, know they remain forgiven, that are not perfect in and ever of themselves

 

[Atwood]

Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Romans 3:25 whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Tell me how soon is any sin past?, before you can ask? So in appreciation if and whenever I sin, I don't ask for more forgiveness in what is received, as being 100% forgiven by Christ at the cross of.
for there is and has never been any forgiveness given without the shedding of blood, and Christ was and is the last shedding is he not

So really is Christ going to come back and shed anymore blood?

I suppose that many who think Christ is re-sacrificed mass by mass on an altar in a "church,"
don't stop to realize that when they worship a piece of bread held high, they are into idolatry.
There is a branch or two of Christendom which is heavily into idolatry.

I mean if you have to ask for more forgiveness every time you sin, then you better stay in your confessional,

You reckon they could rent a private seat with a suitable donation? Or auction off to highest bidder?
Then you reckon the government would want real estate tax on the transaction?

I can picture the poor guy going to the booth, then heading for mass; but having lusted in his mind, have to go back. He confesses again, says his 10 Hail Maries, and heads for the mass again, but then on the way someone calls him a jerk, and he fires back, "Shut up fool." So back again. This goes on for some time. There's the priest: "You back again?"

 

[homwardbound]

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.


Not on the day of judgement if a persons has no sins that can cause him to be lost.

And in reply I say thank you Jesus, can we now play the song "Spirit in the Sky"

[video=youtube;WPPlGFh6OpQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WPPlGFh6OpQ[/video]

 

[peacefulbeliever]

Good morning, Shalom Peaceful.

Most of what you posted was great. But that part quoted above, does not look quite right. Salvation didn't change essentially from OT to NT. However, before the Church age there was no guarantee that the Holy Spirit would indwell believers. And it says it the gospels, the Spirit had not yet been "given." So some individuals might have the Spirit in the OT and then lose it, like King Saul, and like King David feared.

But having the permanent indwelling of the Spirit is not the same thing as salvation. There is no indication that OT believers could lose salvation.

[/COLOR]Shalom

Jesus Christ resurrection and ascension made available the new birth = born of Spirit = salvation = filled with the Spirit via the gift of holy Spirit. Being born of the Spirit is salvation . . . . you can't separate the two.

 

[homwardbound]

One needs an advocate for his sins, 1 Jn 2:2; 1 Jn 4:10. Sin is why one is lost, but if it is not possible for one to be lost then he has no sins so he needs no advocate.

From Coffman's Commentary "The Greek word to be translated by one of these words (propitiation, or expiation) is [hilasmos], the primary meaning being "the removal of wrath."[9] It is this element of the meaning which some would like to get rid of. However, there is a divine wrath against every form of sin (Romans 1:18), and God's forgiveness is not merely the ignoring of this wrath. "Expiation" carries the meaning that Christ's blood indeed procured for people the forgiveness of sins, but it leaves out the connection with God's wrath. Full agreement here is felt with Stott, Morris, and others who preferred "propitiation." There are implications in the atonement wrought by the death of Christ that are completely beyond any total understanding by finite intelligence. "Propitiation" means the "removal of wrath," and "expiation" means the "removal of guilt"; but in view of the fact of God's wrath being a reality mentioned countless times in the New Testament, it would appear to be far better to retain the word that includes "removal of wrath" in its meaning.


So if propitiation means "removal of wrath", yet God has no wrath upon one if he cannot be lost, so why/how remove God's wrath when it would not exist?

You still do not see to appreciate God, therefore you have to work in stress to please God. And there is no flesh that can ever do this, but Christ's who has past tense already done this for you
So sorry you have not received this, praying you come to see the truth that sets you free, from the stress and worry you are obviously in.
Thank you Lord, your will be done not mine or anyone else

 

[homwardbound]

I suppose that many who think Christ is re-sacrificed mass by mass on an altar in a "church,"
don't stop to realize that when they worship a piece of bread held high, they are into idolatry.
There is a branch or two of Christendom which is heavily into idolatry.

You reckon they could rent a private seat with a suitable donation? Or auction off to highest bidder?
Then you reckon the government would want real estate tax on the transaction?

I can picture the poor guy going to the booth, then heading for mass; but having lusted in his mind, have to go back. He confesses again, says his 10 Hail Maries, and heads for the mass again, but then on the way someone calls him a jerk, and he fires back, "Shut up fool." So back again. This goes on for some time. There's the priest: "You back again?"

The one's that are doing exactly that know, something is amiss and Father leads them to Son and shows this
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Romans 3:26 And now in these days also he can receive sinners in this same way because Jesus took away their sins. But isn’t this unfair for God to let criminals go free, and say that they are innocent? No, for he does it on the basis of their trust in Jesus who took away their sins.
Ephesians 1:7 So overflowing is his kindness toward us that he took away all our sins through the blood of his Son, by whom we are saved;
Colossians 2:15 In this way God took away Satan’s power to accuse you of sin, and God openly displayed to the whole world Christ’s triumph at the cross where your sins were all taken away.

 

[homwardbound]

Jesus Christ resurrection and ascension made available the new birth = born of Spirit = salvation = filled with the Spirit via the gift of holy Spirit. Being born of the Spirit is salvation . . . . you can't separate the two.

And so we know we are his by this verse here when this is done:
[h=3]Romans 8:16[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]For his Holy Spirit speaks to us deep in our hearts and tells us that we really are God’s children.

 

[homwardbound]

Romans 2:7 He will give eternal life to those who patiently do the will of God, seeking for the unseen glory and honor and eternal life that he offers.*
Romans 5:21 Before, sin ruled over all men and brought them to death, but now God’s kindness rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
2 Corinthians 4:12 Because of our preaching we face death, but it has resulted in eternal life for you.
2 Corinthians 5:15 He died for all so that all who live—having received eternal life from him—might live no longer for themselves, to please themselves, but to spend their lives pleasing Christ who died and rose again for them.
2 Corinthians 7:10 For God sometimes uses sorrow in our lives to help us turn away from sin and seek eternal life. We should never regret his sending it. But the sorrow of the man who is not a Christian is not the sorrow of true repentance and does not prevent eternal death.
Galatians 1:6 I am amazed that you are turning away so soon from God who, in his love and mercy, invited you to share the eternal life he gives through Christ; you are already following a different “way to heaven,” which really doesn’t go to heaven at all.








Galatians 5:6 And we to whom Christ has given eternal life don’t need to worry about whether we have been circumcised or not, or whether we are obeying the Jewish ceremonies or not; for all we need is faith working through love.

Philippians 1:28 fearlessly, no matter what your enemies may do. They will see this as a sign of their downfall, but for you it will be a clear sign from God that he is with you, and that he has given you eternal life with him.
Philippians 3:19 Their future is eternal loss, for their god is their appetite: they are proud of what they should be ashamed of; and all they think about is this life here on earth.
1 Timothy 6:12 Fight on for God. Hold tightly to the eternal life that God has given you and that you have confessed with such a ringing confession before many witnesses.
2 Timothy 1:1 From: Paul, Jesus Christ’s missionary, sent out by God to tell men and women everywhere about the eternal life he has promised them through faith in Jesus Christ.
Titus 1:1-2 From: Paul, the slave of God and the messenger of Jesus Christ. I have been sent to bring faith to those God has chosen and to teach them to know God’s truth—the kind of truth that changes lives—so that they can have eternal life, which God promised them before the world began—and he cannot lie.
Titus 3:7 so that he could declare us good in God’s eyes—all because of his great kindness; and now we can share in the wealth of the eternal life he gives us, and we are eagerly looking forward to receiving it.
1 Peter 1:3 All honor to God, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ; for it is his boundless mercy that has given us the privilege of being born again so that we are now members of God’s own family. Now we live in the hope of eternal life because Christ rose again from the dead.
1 Peter 1:4 And God has reserved for his children the priceless gift of eternal life; it is kept in heaven for you, pure and undefiled, beyond the reach of change and decay.
1 John 1:2 This one who is life from God has been shown to us, and we guarantee that we have seen him; I am speaking of Christ, who is eternal Life. He was with the Father and then was shown to us.
1 John 2:25 And he himself has promised us this: eternal life.
1 John 3:14 If we love other Christians, it proves that we have been delivered from hell and given eternal life. But a person who doesn’t have love for others is headed for eternal death.
1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates his Christian brother is really a murderer at heart; and you know that no one wanting to murder has eternal life within.
1 John 4:9 God showed how much he loved us by sending his only Son into this wicked world to bring to us eternal life through his death.
1 John 5:11 And what is it that God has said? That he has given us eternal life and that this life is in his Son.
1 John 5:13 I have written this to you who believe in the Son of God so that you may know you have eternal life.
1 John 5:20 And we know that Christ, God’s Son, has come to help us understand and find the true God. And now we are in God because we are in Jesus Christ his Son, who is the only true God; and he is eternal Life.


The end, Eternally secure in the loving merciful arms of God thanks to Christ's finished work here on the earth for us. Amen!!!!!