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If i tell you, will you believe the Truth? The Question is What are His Commandments, false doctrine teaches His commandments are the ten commandments. However Scriptures teaches us plainly what His Commandments are:
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, (Pay attention here, Scriptures is about to plainly tell us what HIS COMMANDMENTS are) That we should (1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and (2) love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and He in him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
Now the Question is whether to believe the teaching from men who teach they are the ten commandments or the believe the Word of God which PLAINLY tells us what His Commandments are.
Obey OLd Testament?
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, (Pay attention here, Scriptures is about to plainly tell us what HIS COMMANDMENTS are) That we should (1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and (2) love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and He in him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
Now the Question is whether to believe the teaching from men who teach they are the ten commandments or the believe the Word of God which PLAINLY tells us what His Commandments are.
Obey OLd Testament?
I truly don't understand why Gentiles want to be under the law or focus so much on thee law of moses, instead of walking in the spirit ? So much effort on focusing on observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years?
I don't get it ? focus on the Gospel the Good news, He commanded Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
Just as DiscpleDave just posted:
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, (Pay attention here, Scriptures is about to plainly tell us what HIS COMMANDMENTS are) That we should (1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and (2) love one another, as He gave us commandment.
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I don't get it ? focus on the Gospel the Good news, He commanded Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
Just as DiscpleDave just posted:
I John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment, (Pay attention here, Scriptures is about to plainly tell us what HIS COMMANDMENTS are) That we should (1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and (2) love one another, as He gave us commandment.
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OK, so by this you are saying that Gods commandments are 1 believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ and 2 love one another, as Christ gave us commandment. And if we keep these commandments we dwell in Christ, and Christ in us, and God abideth in us by the Spirit he gave us.
OK, so I wanted to establish what you are saying with this verse. Am I correct is this what you are saying?
It is so easy to use three verses, take it out of context and establish a new commandment, sad, but true.
Lets address your assertion.
Lets establish one thing first.
1 John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
So from NT scripture we can see that there is no new commandment given but an old commandment that has been heard since the beginning. Where do you find them, you might ask ?
Leviticus 19:15-18
15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge , nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
We can see it was previously commanded.
Deuteronomy 6:1-6
1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged .
3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4 Hear , O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
OK, we can see that it is not a new commandment, it was first given to the house of Israel because the gospel had not been spoken to the gentiles, and when it came to the gentiles, the commandment didnt change it was already there.
Like just-me stated God checks to see if we love him, this is one example:
Deuteronomy 13:1-3
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass , whereof he spake unto thee, saying , Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known , and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Again from NT we can see no new commandment was given.
1 John 4
11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
and then it goes on to say what you try to use as a new and only commandment we art to follow. I don't think you know why he gave those commandments. I will show you towards the end.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Again he give the same commandment but in a different phrase
1John 4:
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
1John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God (others), when we love God, and keep his commandments.
So this is saying we know when we love our neighbors, when we LOVE GOD AND KEEP GODS COMMANDMENTS.
1John 5
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
LOL and then it goes on to finish the last chapter of that book by encouraging to keep ourself from idols, one of The Ten Commandments.
1 John 5
21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
And again in NT no new commandment
2 John 1:
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
So the commandment he is giving is that we walk after The Commandments given from the beginning.
The following is advice
2 John 1:
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
So I think we need to ask this question again, " What is Gods commandments?"
From scripture I have established that we believe in his son name to be able to believe what Christ said, which was to walk in the commandments heard since the beginning.
earlier I said I would tell you why he said that.
Matthew 22:
36Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
If we don't love God with all our mind, heart and soul we wont keep the commandments that have to do with him which are four.
If we don't love our neighbors like ourselves we wont keep the commandments that have to do with other which are the last 6.
So tell me again, what are the commandments God wants us to keep?
Obey ONLY the NT?
The commandments of Christ was to magnify The Ten Commandments.
I think the statement really should be, "I truly don't understand why Gentiles want to be like Gentiles and ignore not the law of Moses, but of God, that through the spirit we are able to keep The Commandments. No effort in trying to be obedient to his word."
Even Paul says not to be like Gentiles.
Ephesians 3
1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Ephesians 4
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
So why would Paul address Gentiles and say not to be like Gentiles?
You are viewing it all wrong, no one is trying to be saved by keeping the Ten Commandments, I personally don't keep the feast and special days because those were shadows of Christ which he fulfilled, but the Ten Commandments are not shadows of his crucifixion.
What Gospel will you preach if there are no commandments? How can you tell someone to turn from sin and follow Christ, if by no laws there is no sin?
Yea you just read 3 verses, and it is simple if only we do what God commanded.
2 Corithinas 3
Ministers of a New Covenant
1Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you? 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.
12Therefore having such a hope, we use great boldness in our speech, 13and are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel would not look intently at the end of what was fading away. 14But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. 15But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; 16but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
Read it all, and Pray in Jesus name
God Bless
Ministers of a New Covenant
1Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you? 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.
12Therefore having such a hope, we use great boldness in our speech, 13and are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel would not look intently at the end of what was fading away. 14But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. 15But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; 16but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
Read it all, and Pray in Jesus name
God Bless
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You are speaking upon the written tables of stone, and comparing them with what is written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. they are two diffrent things. First and formost As a Christian/Gentile that belive in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior i am under the law of Christ. Not under the the law of moses God contract/covenant to israel.
The statement i provided is correct.
My comment was directed towards the Beliving Gentiles in Christ.
Matthew 12:18
18Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.19He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
20A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
21And in his name shall the Gentiles trust. <<< Go to the Greek
Thee Council at Jerusalem Gentiles remember them yes ? Paul explain it in romans aswell.
Romans 3:29-30 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Paul speaks upon the Gentiles that do not know Jesus Christ
Are you a Jew ?
Where you with Israel at Mount Sinai?
Did your agree with them at Mount Sinai to make a covenant with Him ?
You are part of the New Covenant in Jesus Christ, that is better than thee covenant Given at Mount Sinai Yes.
Do you keep the sabbath and 613+ laws as Directed in Exodus and the other books in the OT ? IF you don't you are Guilty of Breaking them according to the NT.The new Testament explains to the New Beliver in Christ and unbelivers what is sin in the new Covenant. We belivers have the promise of God fulfilled.Which they in the OT under the law of moses, did not have the holyspirit of God indwell in us, just as God lead his prophets to do His will.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
There are many Commandment in the NT, A few of us gave you example of the commandments in the NT. The Law was not made for a righteous man.
1 timothy 9: Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
The Covenant God gave to His servant Moses to Israel , and The New Covenant God made will all who Belvie in Jesus Christ our Lord are not one in the same.
The New Covenant may have similarity as the Old Covenant , example Adultary , Steal , Murder but under the new there are major changes. This is a new contract with God.
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
How to walk in the spirit down below
Living by the Spirit
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Galatians 5:22-24
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!
this is the only way ,you can fulfill law now walk in the spirit.
It is simple and i hope you can see the greatness of what God has establish in the New Covenant in Jesus Christ.
This is my last reply to you, i wish you well God bless.
The statement i provided is correct.
My comment was directed towards the Beliving Gentiles in Christ.
Matthew 12:18
18Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.19He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
20A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
21And in his name shall the Gentiles trust. <<< Go to the Greek
Thee Council at Jerusalem Gentiles remember them yes ? Paul explain it in romans aswell.
Romans 3:29-30 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Paul speaks upon the Gentiles that do not know Jesus Christ
Are you a Jew ?
Where you with Israel at Mount Sinai?
Did your agree with them at Mount Sinai to make a covenant with Him ?
You are part of the New Covenant in Jesus Christ, that is better than thee covenant Given at Mount Sinai Yes.
Do you keep the sabbath and 613+ laws as Directed in Exodus and the other books in the OT ? IF you don't you are Guilty of Breaking them according to the NT.The new Testament explains to the New Beliver in Christ and unbelivers what is sin in the new Covenant. We belivers have the promise of God fulfilled.Which they in the OT under the law of moses, did not have the holyspirit of God indwell in us, just as God lead his prophets to do His will.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
There are many Commandment in the NT, A few of us gave you example of the commandments in the NT. The Law was not made for a righteous man.
1 timothy 9: Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
The Covenant God gave to His servant Moses to Israel , and The New Covenant God made will all who Belvie in Jesus Christ our Lord are not one in the same.
The New Covenant may have similarity as the Old Covenant , example Adultary , Steal , Murder but under the new there are major changes. This is a new contract with God.
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
How to walk in the spirit down below
Living by the Spirit
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Galatians 5:22-24
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!
this is the only way ,you can fulfill law now walk in the spirit.
It is simple and i hope you can see the greatness of what God has establish in the New Covenant in Jesus Christ.
This is my last reply to you, i wish you well God bless.
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You obviously don't read my posts in their entirety and only read what you want to see, so I will not bother in addressing your response. I do know the significance of the "new" covenant and for that reason I appreciate the first one all the more. Feel free to, or not to reply, that is your choice. Be blessed.
Flamingspirit, not too many understand Sabbatical and Jubilee years. Thanks for sharing and speaking truth. The Jews think 2014 is a Sabbatical year, however after carefully following the research and evidence of Joseph Dumond we know that starting in Tishri 2016 is the next Sabbatical year. His research and evidence shows that the begining 120th Jubilee will occur on Tishri 1, 2045 (Gregorian/Roman calendar date September 11, 2045.) Note: 120 Jubilees X 49 years = 5880 years. See sightedmoon.com for greater in depth understanding of Sabbatical and Jubilee years.
Where do you get 120 Jubilee years?
Jubilee is the year following 49 years of servitude, and then everything is forgiven (returned to its rightful owner) related to the "Lords Prayer" "forgive us our debts." It can be related with the 49 days leading up to the 50th day of Pentecost after the feast of weeks. It can be related to the giving of the law at Mount Sinai being the 50th day beginning 49 days at the completion of the feast of unleavened bread. Put it together.
It sounds to me like here is a poster with a one tract mind, telling the world it is very plain that everyone should also think the limited way this poster thinks.
At least the one track is onto the basic commandment, the one that all other commandments stem from. The problem only comes in with the idea that we must never consider, never think about, never read any scripture but what this poster allows by limited thinking.
I think the "pay attention here" and "PLAINLY tells us" in this post is sort of funny. Like saying pay attention to me, I tell you not to read any scripture except what I tell you to read.
At least the one track is onto the basic commandment, the one that all other commandments stem from. The problem only comes in with the idea that we must never consider, never think about, never read any scripture but what this poster allows by limited thinking.
I think the "pay attention here" and "PLAINLY tells us" in this post is sort of funny. Like saying pay attention to me, I tell you not to read any scripture except what I tell you to read.
I think post #85 addressed this bold part.
So yes we can gather any day of the week but keep in mind that Gods day is The Sabbath. And really the principle on how to observe it is doing what is lawfull. We can have a complete rest from our hectic daily preoccupations, study the word, go to church, etc. and if the need rises we do what is necessary.
Not how the pharesees were trying to keep it.
No, that is not all...
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Where do we find God's Commandments?
and what does this mean?
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
And what does this mean?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Which ones? That question was asked and answer almost 2000 years ago...
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Where do we find God's Commandments?
and what does this mean?
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
And what does this mean?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Which ones? That question was asked and answer almost 2000 years ago...
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Let's read these verses...
2Co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
Now let's be honest, what does this say? It says that they could not understand the truth that MOSES gave them and still could not to the day.
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
What veil is taken away? The veil that kept them from understanding the truth Moses gave them. They could not understand with their heart...
Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deu 30:7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
Deu 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
After the circumcision of the heart, what are they going to do?
Deu 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
hasn't happened yet because this has not yet happened to them...
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Upon conversion, God writes His Law on our hearts. Now what Law? Most people don't have any problem understanding what Law was written on tables of stone, do they?
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Same Law but written on a different medium, hearts and not stone.
2Co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
Now let's be honest, what does this say? It says that they could not understand the truth that MOSES gave them and still could not to the day.
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
What veil is taken away? The veil that kept them from understanding the truth Moses gave them. They could not understand with their heart...
Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deu 30:7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
Deu 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
After the circumcision of the heart, what are they going to do?
Deu 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
hasn't happened yet because this has not yet happened to them...
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Upon conversion, God writes His Law on our hearts. Now what Law? Most people don't have any problem understanding what Law was written on tables of stone, do they?
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Same Law but written on a different medium, hearts and not stone.
I may run into trouble on this one, but it seems to me that the 1st of the month of Nisan was a Sabbath day, or was it the 14th of that month making the 7th day a Sabbath? We all know that the 15th is a Sabbath high day in the New Testament. Pick a day, but it's not ours to pick for we are not the Lord of the Sabbath. Looking at the 2nd month (Lyar) it appears that the 15th was a Sabbath. Studying the feast days, God decides what the Sabbath days are. To me it can be any day of the week depending on when the count begins.
Scriptures for contemplation to begin.
Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.
Exodus 16:5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily
Exodus 16:13 And it came to pass, that at even (the next day begins the 16th day) the quails came up, and covered the camp: and in the morning the dew lay round about the host.
Exodus 16:22-23
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day (the 21st) they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said , To morrow (the 22nd)is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe ; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
This would make the first Sabbath recorded in the Bible the 22nd of Lyar according to in Exodus chapter 16.
Now let's take a step back 1 month to Nisan.
Leviticus 23:5-11
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
7 In the first day (the 15th) ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day (the 21st) is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath (the 22nd) the priest shall wave it.
Nisan has 30 days. Counting the 21st day of Nisan as a Sabbath the 28th would be a Sabbath. The 5th of Lyar would be a Sabbath, the 12th would be a Sabbath, and the 19th would be a Sabbath but that isn't according to Exodus 16.
The point I'm making is that Saturday or Sunday is according to man's chronology and it is good that we do set one day aside for convocation and rest. Whatever time the Lord of the Sabbath says it is, is what matters. The bottom line is to understand what the Lord's Sabbath is for and stop debating about what day of the week it is. It is for us to understand that our carnal work must cease, and His Spiritual work must continue. The Sabbath is a way of life in Christ and not particularly a certain day of the week.
Scriptures for contemplation to begin.
Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.
Exodus 16:5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily
Exodus 16:13 And it came to pass, that at even (the next day begins the 16th day) the quails came up, and covered the camp: and in the morning the dew lay round about the host.
Exodus 16:22-23
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day (the 21st) they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said , To morrow (the 22nd)is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe ; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
This would make the first Sabbath recorded in the Bible the 22nd of Lyar according to in Exodus chapter 16.
Now let's take a step back 1 month to Nisan.
Leviticus 23:5-11
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
7 In the first day (the 15th) ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day (the 21st) is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath (the 22nd) the priest shall wave it.
Nisan has 30 days. Counting the 21st day of Nisan as a Sabbath the 28th would be a Sabbath. The 5th of Lyar would be a Sabbath, the 12th would be a Sabbath, and the 19th would be a Sabbath but that isn't according to Exodus 16.
The point I'm making is that Saturday or Sunday is according to man's chronology and it is good that we do set one day aside for convocation and rest. Whatever time the Lord of the Sabbath says it is, is what matters. The bottom line is to understand what the Lord's Sabbath is for and stop debating about what day of the week it is. It is for us to understand that our carnal work must cease, and His Spiritual work must continue. The Sabbath is a way of life in Christ and not particularly a certain day of the week.