Fall of Rome

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Therapon

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I didn’t know how these verses would be fulfilled, maybe we are seeing it right now without recognizing it . . .

Revelation 17:16-17 “And the ten horns (the 10 caliphates) which thou sawest upon the (Islamic, i.e., the satanic Scarlet) beast, these shall hate the whore (apostate church), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with (spiritual) fire (of the false religion of Islam). For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the (Islamic, i.e., the satanic Satanic) beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.”

Listen to what this imam says . . .

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/...w-only-one-italian-student-in-a-padua-school/
 
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clarkthompson

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Because devil does not know the hour, his plan is to allow things to happen at any time, satan is ready it is just a matter of God allowing it to be time, there have been many things happen that could have been this but it was not God's will yet.
 
Sola_Scriptura

Sola_Scriptura

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You have given interpretation of the text, however, I do not see Scripture/history to validate any of these claims. You seem to be using current world events to fill in the blanks.

God Bless
 
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Therapon

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Sola_Scriptura said:
You have given interpretation of the text, however, I do not see Scripture/history to validate any of these claims. You seem to be using current world events to fill in the blanks. God Bless
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Revelation 17:16-17 are in God's Word and will certainly be fulfilled! World events are filling in those blanks without any help from me. Did you read what that imam had to say?

We entered into a new era after Israel became a nation in 1948 and Jerusalem was freedom Gentile control in 1967. The time of Gentile control of the holy land was over and we has been in Daniel's 12:4,9 "time of the end" ever since. Those two events opened the prophetic Scriptures in a new way. The prophetic "days," prophetic "times" and Revelation's three "beasts" are no longer in our future, ALL have been fulfilled during the Christian era. Not more guesswork eschatology, mind you, but provable enough to stand up in a court of law! As a result, the Dispensational and Preterest can no longer be supported either scripturally or historically!

What I posted above were indeed conclusions, but they were logical conclusions based on what we now KNOW and can prove from Bible prophecy. Your critique is certainly understandable, however, if you haven't factored those latest findings into your eschatological picture. I wish you had read one of my books on www.EllisSkolfield.com. Couldn't care less if you disagree, you're entitled, but at least you'd see the reasoning behind my conclusions.

Please have a nice day in the Lord.
 
RedTent

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I realize I am just a very elderly lady without so much as a college degree, and basically only a housewife and mother at that. But to not see great changes in how people are seeing the Lord seems to me to be quite blind. Ever since Christ lived with us and was crucified, making the Jews and gentiles one under Christ, there has been a battle between the races. At first it was over lifestyle (diet, physical circumcision etc.) and the Lord put a stop to that. It was the Jews saying the gentiles would never fit in at first, and then the gentiles took over and said the Jews all killed Christ and were weird.

It isn't only what is happening in Jerusalem that is changing. When the world saw Hitler murdering, they took another look at how they saw Jews. When the deep sea scrolls were found, the first thing that impressed the world was the way OT writing had stayed the same. The entire world agreed God must have been involved and there was a new look at these writings. Then, over the years information about ancient Hebrew and Far East culture began to show up and gradually new understanding of these ancient scriptures began to emerge. A new division of the church evolved, including knowledge of Christ before Christ spent His days on earth as a man. For the first time, there was a blending of the races and just as scripture tells us it is, the two races became one to some people. It is called the roots movement, and it is not perfect, just men trying to follow God.

Just as has always happened, from the time of Ezra to the protestant revolution, the organized church is up in arms to put a stop to this. But I think God has spoken. There is always a remnant who follows the Lord. As usual, some of the remnant go too far but the movement will not stop if the Lord is behind it.
 
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Elin

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RedTent said:
I realize I am just a very elderly lady without so much as a college degree, and basically only a housewife and mother at that. But to not see great changes in how people are seeing the Lord seems to me to be quite blind. Ever since Christ lived with us and was crucified, making the Jews and gentiles one under Christ, there has been a battle between the races. At first it was over lifestyle (diet, physical circumcision etc.) and the Lord put a stop to that. It was the Jews saying the gentiles would never fit in at first, and then the gentiles took over and said the Jews all killed Christ and were weird.

It isn't only what is happening in Jerusalem that is changing. When the world saw Hitler murdering, they took another look at how they saw Jews. When the deep sea scrolls were found, the first thing that impressed the world was the way OT writing had stayed the same. The entire world agreed God must have been involved and there was a new look at these writings. Then, over the years information about ancient Hebrew and Far East culture began to show up and gradually new understanding of these ancient scriptures began to emerge. A new division of the church evolved, including knowledge of Christ before Christ spent His days on earth as a man. For the first time, there was a blending of the races and just as scripture tells us it is, the two races became one to some people. It is called the roots movement, and it is not perfect, just men trying to follow God.

Just as has always happened, from the time of Ezra to the protestant revolution, the organized church is up in arms to put a stop to this. But I think God has spoken. There is always a remnant who follows the Lord. As usual, some of the remnant go too far but the movement will not stop if the Lord is behind it.
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This is not RedTent.

Where is RedTent? Is she okay?
 
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