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why can't we question flight 93? a plane wreck that didn't resemble another plane wreck in history. Why was there another confined debris field 2 miles away if the plane was whole when it hit the earth?

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Deadtosin said:
Rachel, you dismiss every piece of credible evidence.. What is your explanation for the molten steel?

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and the funniest part is that in spite of all of these credible reasons to question the events of 9-11 you call us delusional. Why shouldn't we question why a highrise would fall into it's footprint. Never happened before. Why shouldn't we question the molten steel running like a river? why shoudn't we question a fire that burned for nearly 12 weeks? making it the longest burning structural fire in history.
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But what is your end goal? What would you even accomplish if it came out that it was a government attack? Most people have moved on.
 
I was about to go to bed when I turned on the TV and the breaking news had unfolded on the first tower being hit. Initially I thought it was a light plane that accidentally hit the building and then the second one was struck. Watched it all the way until the towers fell.
 
Nautilus said:
But what is your end goal? What would you even accomplish if it came out that it was a government attack? Most people have moved on.
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My end goal is to shine light on the truth for as many people as would have it. To understand that our government stages catastrophes. Maybe if we understood that they staged 9-11 we would realize that they have staged other events. It's important to know who you can trust and who you can't. If I can't trust them to not slay Americans, if I can't trust them to tell the truth through the media and other agencies then I can't trust them with anything.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
 
Deadtosin said:
My end goal is to shine light on the truth for as many people as would have it. To understand that our government stages catastrophes. Maybe if we understood that they staged 9-11 we would realize that they have staged other events. It's important to know who you can trust and who you can't. If I can't trust them to not slay Americans, if I can't trust them to tell the truth through the media and other agencies then I can't trust them with anything.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
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Dts, amen brother!! It baffles me why some people don't want the truth on things like this. Are they afraid it might be true and they can't face being wrong? Just sayin'.... Or is it because they know truth is stranger than fiction, and fiction usually has more truth than anyone knows.
 
If a person lies to me I can't trust that person. If an organization murders and deceives how much less can I trust that organization?

Nautilus, you ask why it matters? can you not see that if they are responsible for these atrocities that we are being governed by evil? we are required to trust them and bend to their will..

Let me ask you this. If you knew that I poisoned your friends and they died, if I offered you a drink would you accept it? Don't you think my actions regarding how I treated your friends should be held into account regarding how you should expect me to deal with you?

They did not do these things for no reason. You said it best, but you asked the wrong person. "What is your end goal?" indeed Nautilus that is the question. But you are asking the wrong man...
 
Deadtosin said:
If a person lies to me I can't trust that person. If an organization murders and deceives how much less can I trust that organization?

Nautilus, you ask why it matters? can you not see that if they are responsible for these atrocities that we are being governed by evil? we are required to trust them and bend to their will..

Let me ask you this. If you knew that I poisoned your friends and they died, if I offered you a drink would you accept it? Don't you think my actions regarding how I treated your friends should be held into account regarding how you should expect me to deal with you?

They did not do these things for no reason. You said it best, but you asked the wrong person. "What is your end goal?" indeed Nautilus that is the question. But you are asking the wrong man...
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Follow the money trail, just follow the money.
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
make that a -very small- percentage of 'professors and architects and demolition experts and military personnel and firefighters'...a small enough percentage to qualify for low credibility fringe status...

of course you left out all of the anti christian new agers and godless criminals who agree with your delusions from your list of 'great company'...i wonder why?
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There was way more then a small percentage....I will not argue those threads r in the B.S. forums sug....
 
chootchooot said:
People who say the Gov had no part in 911 are just like the holocaust deniers, all the proof is there... people would rather keep their head in the sand.
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That is true because if they read facts then they would really be scared, as of now they can walk around in candy land....
 
Deadtosin said:
Why shouldn't we question why a highrise would fall into it's footprint. Never happened before. Why shouldn't we question the molten steel running like a river? why shoudn't we question a fire that burned for nearly 12 weeks? making it the longest burning structural fire in history.
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as has been explained to you several times before...'into its own footprint' is the most natural place for a structure as massive as the world trade center towers to fall into...it would have taken a tremendous force stronger than hurricane winds even to cause the falling towers to deviate by just one degree from falling straight down into their own footprints... in other words...it would have been suspicious if the towers -hadn't- fallen straight down...

in spite of a lack of physical evidence for any molten steel in the basement of the world trade center towers after they collapsed...calculations show that there was enough energy released in the collapse itself to melt steel at the bottom...note that this is a totally different issue from if jet fuel is hot enough to melt molten steel...

here are some calculations i found...since conspiracy theorists don't like to read much i will just quote the bare minimum here...

To heat steel to the melting point requires about 0.68 gJ of heat to be added for each tonne (metric ton) of steel. Enough more heat has to be added to melt it. Total is about 1 gJ/tonne.
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The energy dissipated during the fall is about 250 or 300 GJ, and the leftover energy at impact is about 600 GJ.
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Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Molten Steel

i could probably try verifying the calculations if anyone actually cares about what the laws of physics say about 9/11... anyone reading this thread can let me know if they are interested...

ironically when you mention the fire burning for twelve weeks...you completely contradicted your thermite theory...thermite burns up in more like twelve -seconds-
 
Deadtosin said:
My end goal is to shine light on the truth for as many people as would have it. To understand that our government stages catastrophes. Maybe if we understood that they staged 9-11 we would realize that they have staged other events. It's important to know who you can trust and who you can't. If I can't trust them to not slay Americans, if I can't trust them to tell the truth through the media and other agencies then I can't trust them with anything.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
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so since conspiracy theorists regularly get basic facts wrong...i can't trust them with anything...
 
blue_ladybug said:
Dts, amen brother!! It baffles me why some people don't want the truth on things like this. Are they afraid it might be true and they can't face being wrong? Just sayin'.... Or is it because they know truth is stranger than fiction, and fiction usually has more truth than anyone knows.
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people do want the truth...the problem is that conspiracy theorists don't know the truth when they see it...they are following something else that -isn't- the truth...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
as has been explained to you several times before...'into its own footprint' is the most natural place for a structure as massive as the world trade center towers to fall into...it would have taken a tremendous force stronger than hurricane winds even to cause the falling towers to deviate by just one degree from falling straight down into their own footprints... in other words...it would have been suspicious if the towers -hadn't- fallen straight down...

in spite of a lack of physical evidence for any molten steel in the basement of the world trade center towers after they collapsed...calculations show that there was enough energy released in the collapse itself to melt steel at the bottom...note that this is a totally different issue from if jet fuel is hot enough to melt molten steel...

here are some calculations i found...since conspiracy theorists don't like to read much i will just quote the bare minimum here...




Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Molten Steel

i could probably try verifying the calculations if anyone actually cares about what the laws of physics say about 9/11... anyone reading this thread can let me know if they are interested...

ironically when you mention the fire burning for twelve weeks...you completely contradicted your thermite theory...thermite burns up in more like twelve -seconds-
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HAHAHAHA!!!!! Blah! Malarkey! I call totally bogus on this so much so I couldn't even read it all....you lost me at unto its own foot print blah!!!!
 
Deadtosin said:
If a person lies to me I can't trust that person. If an organization murders and deceives how much less can I trust that organization?
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so since conspiracy theorists are known for murdering and deceiving...how much can i trust you?
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
people do want the truth...the problem is that conspiracy theorists don't know the truth when they see it...they are following something else that -isn't- the truth...
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I call bologna on this too! That's the whole problem....you have been show clips of the truth and ur still like nope uhhh nope nope nope.....
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Trinity33 said:
There was way more then a small percentage....I will not argue those threads r in the B.S. forums sug....
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wrong as usual...

conspiracy theorists make a big deal about some list of between 1,000 and 2,000 engineers who agree with 9/11 conspiracy theories...this is less than 0.1% of the engineers in the united states...

in other words...a very small percentage...just like i said...

this percentage also happens to be on a similar level as the percentage of people with schizophrenic disorders...
 
Trinity33 said:
That is true because if they read facts then they would really be scared, as of now they can walk around in candy land....
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actually what is scary is that there are people like you out there...people who could very easily be the next unabomber or oklahoma city bomber or tucson shooter...all of whom were conspiracy theorists just like you...
 
Trinity33 said:
HAHAHAHA!!!!! Blah! Malarkey! I call totally bogus on this so much so I couldn't even read it all....you lost me at unto its own foot print blah!!!!
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paragraph three from my post...'conspiracy theorists don't like to read much'...did i call that or what?

if you can't even make the effort to read more than a sentence or two...then no wonder you are so appallingly ignorant about the facts of 9/11...

and after this you expect me to believe that -honesty- has any part in your agenda here?
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
paragraph three from my post...'conspiracy theorists don't like to read much'...did i call that or what?

if you can't even make the effort to read more than a sentence or two...then no wonder you are so appallingly ignorant about the facts of 9/11...

and after this you expect me to believe that -honesty- has any part in your agenda here?
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So you believe the *cough cough* "official" story of what happened that day?
 
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