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Rev_5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Isa_2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa_2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Mic_4:2
And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Zec_8:3
Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.
Jerusalem ain't in Heaven last time I heard. It's on the earth.
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Isa_2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa_2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Mic_4:2
And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Zec_8:3
Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.
Jerusalem ain't in Heaven last time I heard. It's on the earth.
My JesusLives, where did you get all of those Misunderstandings and False Teachings?
YES, GOD is LOVE, BUT HE IS ALSO PERFECTLY JUST.
There is only one SIN that anyone will end up in Hell for.
That sin is rejecting the Holy Spirit's efforts to bring the unbeliever to believing in GOD the SON as Creator, and receiving Jesus as LORD. That sin or REJECTION is known as blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
1 John 2:2 (NIV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Mark 3:28-29 (HCSB)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] I assure you: People will be forgiven for all sins and whatever blasphemies they may blaspheme.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
What about those who NEVER heard of JESUS the CREATOR (Eph. 1:15-20), or refuse to believe He is GOD the SON the Creator? HOW do we know the Holy Spirit tried to get them to BELIEVE IN HIM as CREATOR.
Romans 1:20-22 (HCSB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] For His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what He has made. As a result, people are without excuse.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] For though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or show gratitude. Instead, their thinking became nonsense, and their senseless minds were darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Claiming to be wise, they became fools
Exodus 34:7 (GW)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He continues to show his love to thousands of generations, forgiving wrongdoing, disobedience, and sin. He never lets the guilty go unpunished, punishing children and grandchildren for their parents' sins to the third and fourth generation.”
HIS JUSTICE IS PERFECT. There are no big sinners and little sinners ALL SINNERS ARE EQUALLY AS BAD AS THE WORST MASS MURDERER ON DEATH ROW.
James 2:10 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
Matthew 25:41 (HCSB)
[SUP]41 [/SUP] Then He will also say to those on the left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!
Revelation 14:9-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And a third angel followed them and spoke with a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] he will also drink the wine of God’s wrath, which is mixed full strength in the cup of His anger. He will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb,
[SUP]11 [/SUP] and the smoke of their torment will go up forever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or anyone who receives the mark of his name.
Revelation 20:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And anyone not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Adolf Hitler did not go to Hades and eventually to HELL for killing six million Jews, he went there because he rejected the Holy Spirit's efforts to get him to believe in Jesus Christ for all that HE IS, including The CREATOR, The MESSIAH, and as OUR LORD, which means MASTER. By that REJECTION he sealed his own fate forever, by blaspheming the Holy Spirit's efforts to work on his heart.
Matthew 13:41-42 (ISV)
[SUP]41 [/SUP] The Son of Man will send his angels, and they'll gather from his kingdom everything that causes others to sin and those who practice lawlessness,
[SUP]42 [/SUP] and they'll throw them into a blazing furnace. In that place there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
That wailing and gnashing of teeth, is an expression that means "continuous bitterness towards GOD". NONE will repent, even in HELL.
Deuteronomy 32:39-41 (NASB)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] 'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
[SUP]40 [/SUP] 'Indeed, I lift up My hand to heaven, And say, as I live forever,
[SUP]41 [/SUP] If I sharpen My flashing sword, And My hand takes hold on justice, I will render vengeance on My adversaries, And I will repay those who hate Me.
YES, GOD IS LOVE, but HE ALSO IS THE ONE WHO CARRIES OUT PERFECT JUSTICE.
You ask the wrong question, it is not "Why does GOD send some people to Hades and HELL?"
The QUESTION IS: "WHY DOES HE NOT SEND ME TO HADES AND HELL?"
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These few will not be taught anything at all. The only thing they know and totally misunderstand is the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man. It is apparently the only thing in their Bibles and they totally misunderstand it. It is sad indeed the false doctrines these few hold onto so hard while totally ignoring and disavowing the plain and simple scriptures of the Bible.
Death and hell will be cast into the LAKE of FIRE at the GREAT WHITE throne judgment....so....if the rich man is not suffering in hell then Jesus misrepresented the truth and spoke lies in a so-called parable that has no real meaning....I will believe the word....God telling the truth at ALL times and Jesus told no lies and or misrepresentation of the truth!
So where do you get the definitions of the words that you use? The bible was inspired in the KOINE GREEK/HEBREW and not English so again how do you come to conclusions on the words that you use to state your position seeing how (dictionaries) are not inspired....Can you read. write and translate Greek and Hebrew and where did you learn to do this and how did you learn what the words mean? Seems like your logic contradicts the very things bolded above...just saying!
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Not at all. It's one of those "My God is too just to sentence anyone to centuries of torture upon his/her death without the due process of a trial. It is only after having received a sentence of death in the Great White Throne Judgment that he/she may be sent to the Lake of Fire.
It is the position of the few on here that a just God would sentence a man who committed a murder a thousand years ago to a place of fiery punishment called Hell while another many might commit murder and have to only serve two days in that fiery Hell should Christ return in two days. Meanwhile, neither of the two men had been served the due process of a fair and impartial trial.
It is the position of the few on here that a just God would sentence a man who committed a murder a thousand years ago to a place of fiery punishment called Hell while another many might commit murder and have to only serve two days in that fiery Hell should Christ return in two days. Meanwhile, neither of the two men had been served the due process of a fair and impartial trial.
A study on the 1000 Years is in-depth and would be too much text to post here. Hence, I post the following link. Please go through all of the Scriptures. Strictly Biblical.
The Biblical truth about the 1000 years
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The Biblical truth about the 1000 years
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This is from that study:
Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
The earth is left desolate. There is no man nor bird, the earth and its cities are broken down. But Jehovah does not make a full end. This has yet to be fulfilled. This will happen during the 1000 years.
There is a school that claim this happened in the old world when the angels, led by Satan, ruled the earth. The terms "form and void" really means chaos and confusion according to them. This school claims that there was a war of the worlds and Satan and 1/3 of all the angels lost that war and Michael and his angels almost totally destroyed the earth. The King of Tyre was Satan and he was over the cities. They claim this is why so many ancient civilizations have been uncovered.
Just an opposing view.
Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
The earth is left desolate. There is no man nor bird, the earth and its cities are broken down. But Jehovah does not make a full end. This has yet to be fulfilled. This will happen during the 1000 years.
There is a school that claim this happened in the old world when the angels, led by Satan, ruled the earth. The terms "form and void" really means chaos and confusion according to them. This school claims that there was a war of the worlds and Satan and 1/3 of all the angels lost that war and Michael and his angels almost totally destroyed the earth. The King of Tyre was Satan and he was over the cities. They claim this is why so many ancient civilizations have been uncovered.
Just an opposing view.
Actually, any real Christian would not promote the Seventh Day Adventist cult.
I beg to differ on your other comment.
We don't live under the law since we are under grace. There is no Sabbath Day keeping since Christ is the Sabbath.
Having logs in your eye is concerning hypocritical judgment and has absolutely nothing to do with warning people against a false religious cult.
Again, a WARNING to everyone to stay away from the Seventh Day Adventist cult. Cults often try sneaky ways to get you deceived like posting that link above. Don't fall for it.
I beg to differ on your other comment.
We don't live under the law since we are under grace. There is no Sabbath Day keeping since Christ is the Sabbath.
Having logs in your eye is concerning hypocritical judgment and has absolutely nothing to do with warning people against a false religious cult.
Again, a WARNING to everyone to stay away from the Seventh Day Adventist cult. Cults often try sneaky ways to get you deceived like posting that link above. Don't fall for it.
Noone is advertising any particular denomination. The seventh-day Christian Sabbath was created by the LORD, not the Seventh-Day Adventists. Most people on this forum don't appear to believe what the Bible teaches, yet they will automatically believe 1-sided articles about E.G. White. I guess the mass rejection of Scripture by most on this forum is a microcosm of the mass confusion amongst Christianity throughout the world. It is easy to see how so many will receive the Mark and be rejected by the Lord when He returns.
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Do I believe what you say, . . . . . . . . . OR do I want to believe what Jesus and the Word of GOD actually SAYS?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hmmmmmm, let me think about this. Hmmmmmmmm!
YOU LOSE! I believe Jesus and what the Word of GOD actually Says!
Matthew 25:46 (HCSB)
[SUP]46 [/SUP] “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”