Are we really made in God's image?

[ELECT]

There are many questions that have been rattling around in my mind recently, the least serious of which is this:
Are we really made in God's image?

God was once the only thing in existence. This means that he existed before gravity, before solid matter, before time, etc. This means that it is completely illogical to think God looks anything like a human.

1. God would not need legs because he has nowhere to go. He is everywhere at once.
2. We have flat feet because gravity holds us to the solid Earth and we need them to balance. God doesn't need feet.
3. God would not need arms or hands because there was nothing in existence to hold.
4. God would not have eyes because he would not need organs that are designed to take in light before he created light.
5. He wouldn't have any use for a nose, ears, or a mouth either because there was nothing to see, taste or hear.
5a. He wouldn't need a mouth to speak the universe into existence either, because there was no medium to carry the sound. Whatever the Bible means by "God said" must be something different than our idea of what it means to "say" something.
6. God does not need a body, especially not a solid one like we have. We use our bodies to interact with, and affect, the physical world. God interacts with the physical world in a non-physical way, so there is no reason for him to have a body of any shape or size.

We are shaped and structured the way we are because we have to interact with and thrive in our environment. God does not need any human-like features for any reason. So who exactly do we look like?

[h=1]Ezekiel 1:27-28King James Version (KJV)[/h]27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

 

[ELECT]

There are many questions that have been rattling around in my mind recently, the least serious of which is this:
Are we really made in God's image?

God was once the only thing in existence. This means that he existed before gravity, before solid matter, before time, etc. This means that it is completely illogical to think God looks anything like a human.

1. God would not need legs because he has nowhere to go. He is everywhere at once.
2. We have flat feet because gravity holds us to the solid Earth and we need them to balance. God doesn't need feet.
3. God would not need arms or hands because there was nothing in existence to hold.
4. God would not have eyes because he would not need organs that are designed to take in light before he created light.
5. He wouldn't have any use for a nose, ears, or a mouth either because there was nothing to see, taste or hear.
5a. He wouldn't need a mouth to speak the universe into existence either, because there was no medium to carry the sound. Whatever the Bible means by "God said" must be something different than our idea of what it means to "say" something.
6. God does not need a body, especially not a solid one like we have. We use our bodies to interact with, and affect, the physical world. God interacts with the physical world in a non-physical way, so there is no reason for him to have a body of any shape or size.

We are shaped and structured the way we are because we have to interact with and thrive in our environment. God does not need any human-like features for any reason. So who exactly do we look like?

This is most confusing

How does God speak to you ?
God has a face and feet

[h=1]Exodus 24:10-12King James Version (KJV)[/h]10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
12 And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

 

[Bride]

First, please do not insult God. Second, this is not a description of God being put forth. This is God opening the mouth of a donkey that Balaam was riding whereby the donkey asked, "What have I done unto you that you have smitten me these three times?"

Neither God nor I were insulted. Please relax.
God manifests Himself in many ways. Here, as an ass. I don't need it explained to me. Another place as a whirlwind. Another place as fire... it doesn't matter. The point is, a man should not force God into a physical form, just because God manifested himself physically in different ways. That is all.

 

[ELECT]

Genesis 1:26 - Then God said, "Let Us make man in our image, according to Our likeness..." If God did not need human-like features we would not be created in His image and likeness. I am sure God had a purpose in mind for creating us to be like Him. God is both a physical and spiritual being. Humans may need a medium to carry sound but God is the creator of this medium which is known as oxygen and does not require this for transmission of thought which is known as human speech. I highly doubt that this is the least serious question that is rattling around in your mind as it is a very basic one.

[h=1]Deuteronomy 5:22-28King James Version (KJV)[/h]22 These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
23 And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders;
24 And ye said, Behold, the Lord our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth.
25 Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any more, then we shall die.
26 For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?
27 Go thou near, and hear all that the Lord our God shall say: and speak thou unto us all that the Lord our God shall speak unto thee; and we will hear it, and do it.
28 And the Lord heard the voice of your words, when ye spake unto me; and the Lord said unto me, I have heard the voice of the words of this people, which they have spoken unto thee: they have well said all that they have spoken.

 

[ELECT]

Neither God nor I were insulted. Please relax.
God manifests Himself in many ways. Here, as an ass. I don't need it explained to me. Another place as a whirlwind. Another place as fire... it doesn't matter. The point is, a man should not force God into a physical form, just because God manifested himself physically in different ways. That is all.

parrots talk are they manifesting themselves to be humans ?

 

[Bride]

parrots talk are they manifesting themselves to be humans ?

Haha! Ask one?

 

[ELECT]

In addition to God being Spirit (And having a human spirit form),

Jesus is still physical in Heaven (Right Now) Making Intercession For us!!!

Hebrews 7:25 - "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."

Now, some folk have said that it is impossible for Christ to be physical in Heaven right now because the Scriptures say that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:50 - "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."

Now in defense of Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Corinthians 15:50 others have wrongfully suggested that we have glorified physical / spiritual bodies in Heaven.

However, such a notion does not make any sense because this is not what 1 Corinthians chapter 15 teaches. For the chapter makes a constant parallel between that which is physical and that which is spiritual; And Jesus himself returned and said He had flesh and bones as they did and He was not a spirit or ghost (Luke 24:39).

And others have suggested that Jesus had no blood and only flesh and bones when He ascended to Heaven. Yet that does not work because Jesus enters the Holy place by his blood and obtains eternal redemption for us.

Hebrews 9:12 - "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."

So if flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God then how does Jesus live forever to make intercession for us?

The answer can be found in the 3rd chapter of John.

John 3:13 - "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

In other words, this passage is telling us above that Jesus (i.e. the Son of Man who came down from Heaven) is the exception to the rule of being flesh and blood inheriting the Kingdom of God in 1 Corinthians chapter 15.

So Jesus is the only man who ascends up into Heaven physically. Everyone else who has ascended or will ascend into Heaven will go from being a physical person to a spirit being. For Enoch was translated into spirit when they entered up into Heaven; And Elijah was taken up to the sky of Heaven (And not the third Heaven). Jesus is the only man (i.e. flesh and blood person) in Heaven. For He is making intercession for us!!!

Luke 24:35-42King James Version (KJV)

35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

King James Version (KJV)


Jesus has flesh and bones in the heaven not flesh and blood

 

[Powemm]

When I start thinking of how big god is.. there isnt enough room in my mind to find completion of him.. I was thinking about the palm of his hand.. he tells us our names are written on them.. I start thinking about every human being ever created before me through centuries and milleniums... thise currently here, and those yet still to come.. the expansion of a hand like that.. is beyond my comprehension to hold hold that.. then multiply all planets, ,all stars, all universes, the heavens,, even the vastness of space... it goes beyond the walls of limitations in my mind.. we serve a very big big god.. ..when I think of the hands of god and all he holds in them..then try to put a face to match an image of such hands.. no image matches up to hands that can do all that.. I've tried lol.. it goes beyond the composite of anything my mind can create..

 

[ELECT]

Haha! Ask one?

A serpent talked also

God placed the word in the donkey mouth

Why did god leave the parrot to talk that is a mystery

 

[dalconn]

There are many questions that have been rattling around in my mind recently, the least serious of which is this:
Are we really made in God's image?

God was once the only thing in existence. This means that he existed before gravity, before solid matter, before time, etc. This means that it is completely illogical to think God looks anything like a human.

1. God would not need legs because he has nowhere to go. He is everywhere at once.
2. We have flat feet because gravity holds us to the solid Earth and we need them to balance. God doesn't need feet.
3. God would not need arms or hands because there was nothing in existence to hold.
4. God would not have eyes because he would not need organs that are designed to take in light before he created light.
5. He wouldn't have any use for a nose, ears, or a mouth either because there was nothing to see, taste or hear.
5a. He wouldn't need a mouth to speak the universe into existence either, because there was no medium to carry the sound. Whatever the Bible means by "God said" must be something different than our idea of what it means to "say" something.
6. God does not need a body, especially not a solid one like we have. We use our bodies to interact with, and affect, the physical world. God interacts with the physical world in a non-physical way, so there is no reason for him to have a body of any shape or size.

We are shaped and structured the way we are because we have to interact with and thrive in our environment. God does not need any human-like features for any reason. So who exactly do we look like?

It sounds to me like God should have sought your counsel before making man

 

[peacefulbeliever]

I am aware that there are hundreds of use of Metonomy in the Scripture. But Scripture is not unknowable. The Spirit reveals the truth of Scripture and we can confirm the truth by looking at the context and in comparing Scripture with Scripture. You would be wrong for not believing man is not made in God's image or not believing Exodus that says God wrote the tablets "twice" with His very finger. God appears in a human form many times (As Spirit in essence or being). If you disagree, you would have to explain the passages in Exodus as it being metaphorical and you would have to explain Daniel's vision in Daniel chapter 7 as being metaphorical, too. Do you think God deceives us? I think it is obvious when Metonomy is being used and when it is not being used. It is clear to see when it is being employed like in all written works. But if you have an image of how you think God should be, and you don't let God's Word be God's Word, then you will always have a wrong view of God.

Metonomy is ONE figure of speech. Figures of Speech are part of language and there are more figures than metonomy. For instance: polysyndeton, hendiadys, metaphors, similes, etc. God is Spirit therefore his image is Spirit therefore the part that was made in God's image is "spirit", the "new creation", the "new man." I haven't said anything was metaphorical. No, I do not believe that God deceives us - I understand the figure of speech used. I didn't say anything about metonomy either. Metonomy is when one word or phrase is substituted for another with which it is closely associated; such as "crown" for "royalty". I can see that you have no interest in studying the figures of speech so I'll leave it at that.

God's word says God is Spirit. [John 4:24]

 

[Jason0047]

Luke 24:35-42King James Version (KJV)

35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

King James Version (KJV)


Jesus has flesh and bones in the heaven not flesh and blood

No. Hebrews 7:25 says he forever lives to make intercession for them. Hebrews 9:12 says he entered the holy place by his blood. Leviticus 17:11 says the life of the flesh is in the blood. Jesus does not have zombie dead flesh. His flesh is alive. Jesus is alive and He is risen. There is no intercession or atonement without the blood of Jesus Christ. For Hebrews 9:22 says that without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. Jesus did not pour out all his blood. He forever LIVES so as to intercede for us. The life of the flesh is in the blood. If Jesus did not have blood anymore in his body, then his disciples would know it. He would look all white and he would be cold and look like a zombie. But he had flesh as they did. He let them touch his hands to show them that he was real and physical. They did not say, "Master! Why are your hands cold?" "Master! Why do you look pale or white?" For have you ever grabbed your finger really tight and then pulled it away? You will see that your finger would be white for a second before the blood rushes back into it. So yeah; What you propose doesn't fit the facts of what we see in Scripture.

 

[Jason0047]

Metonomy is ONE figure of speech. Figures of Speech are part of language and there are more figures than metonomy. For instance: polysyndeton, hendiadys, metaphors, similes, etc. God is Spirit therefore his image is Spirit therefore the part that was made in God's image is "spirit", the "new creation", the "new man." I haven't said anything was metaphorical. No, I do not believe that God deceives us - I understand the figure of speech used. I didn't say anything about metonomy either. Metonomy is when one word or phrase is substituted for another with which it is closely associated; such as "crown" for "royalty". I can see that you have no interest in studying the figures of speech so I'll leave it at that.

God's word says God is Spirit. [John 4:24]

I am aware of the different forms of figures of speech. I mentioned Metonymy because it is a popular figure of speech within the Bible. While I have not done a special study on the different forms of Figures of Speech in the Bible, most of these figures of speech in the KJV are defined for us with the help of Modern Translations. But you can't say that every time God Word's describes a human like body part in reference to God as being a figure of speech every time. For what in the world did God mean by telling Moses that he could not see His face but yet He was allowed to see His back parts? How do you even turn that into a figure of speech? Doing such a thing would regulate the text to just gobblie gook non sense or useless background noise. You have to explain it to me. Help me to see it. Otherwise I am going to assume you don't know what you are talking about (Because you can't explain it - using the context and or other Scripture).

 

[Jason0047]

Neither God nor I were insulted. Please relax.
God manifests Himself in many ways. Here, as an ass. I don't need it explained to me. Another place as a whirlwind. Another place as fire... it doesn't matter. The point is, a man should not force God into a physical form, just because God manifested himself physically in different ways. That is all.

No, no. God did not manifest himself into an animal in Numbers. God simply made the animal to talk. Big difference. Also, God was not a whirlwind, but God was in the whirlwind. Just as God was in the Pillar of Smoke and Fire. God is Spirit and He has one form (Who created man in His image). You can't be an image of something else and then say you created man in your image. That would be a contradiction. God is not a shape shifter. The devil is a shape shifter.

 

[4enlightment]

There are many questions that have been rattling around in my mind recently, the least serious of which is this:
Are we really made in God's image?

God was once the only thing in existence. This means that he existed before gravity, before solid matter, before time, etc. This means that it is completely illogical to think God looks anything like a human.

1. God would not need legs because he has nowhere to go. He is everywhere at once.
2. We have flat feet because gravity holds us to the solid Earth and we need them to balance. God doesn't need feet.
3. God would not need arms or hands because there was nothing in existence to hold.
4. God would not have eyes because he would not need organs that are designed to take in light before he created light.
5. He wouldn't have any use for a nose, ears, or a mouth either because there was nothing to see, taste or hear.
5a. He wouldn't need a mouth to speak the universe into existence either, because there was no medium to carry the sound. Whatever the Bible means by "God said" must be something different than our idea of what it means to "say" something.
6. God does not need a body, especially not a solid one like we have. We use our bodies to interact with, and affect, the physical world. God interacts with the physical world in a non-physical way, so there is no reason for him to have a body of any shape or size.

We are shaped and structured the way we are because we have to interact with and thrive in our environment. God does not need any human-like features for any reason. So who exactly do we look like?

His image is referring to His characteristic, not a physical image.

 

[Jason0047]

So God lied within His Word and really didn't write the 10 Commandments on stone tablets twice with His very own finger? Where does it say that this is a figure of speech?

 

[4enlightment]

So God lied within His Word and really didn't write the 10 Commandments on stone tablets twice with His very own finger? Where does it say that this is a figure of speech?

2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.

Matthew 6:6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

“When there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams.
But this is not true of my servant Moses;
he is faithful in all my house.



Then what did Moses had seen on top of the mountain, if Jesus said that He is unseen?

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? (Characteristic)

 

[Jason0047]

What is the metaphor behind God telling Moses that he can't see His face but yet he was allowed to see His back parts? Is Jesus on the cross a metaphor? Are you uncomfortable with the idea that man is made in God's image?

 

[4enlightment]

What is the metaphor behind God telling Moses that he can't see His face but yet he was allowed to see His back parts? Is Jesus on the cross a metaphor? Are you uncomfortable with the idea that man is made in God's image?

1 Corinthians 15:49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.

2 Corinthians 3:18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

We doesn't suppose to perceive things of the natural when getting to know God.

 

[Zmouth]

In addition to God being Spirit (And having a human spirit form),

Jesus is still physical in Heaven (Right Now) Making Intercession For us!!!

Jesus is the only man (i.e. flesh and blood person) in Heaven. For He is making intercession for us!!!

And just wanted thank you, I feel like Jesus is with, yeah like in you and you really are the one, Praise Jesus for your anointing, drawn to the LORD as I am with your words. Again thank you