Once saved, is sin ok?

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Jimbone

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Boy, Jim, I remember I first came across you in the Halloween thread where you claimed anyone who participated in Halloween was a phony christian. Then in another thread you got busted accidentally sending your gossip PM about me, to me, trying to spread rumors about me. Now you're calling me a troll for saying I'm a sinner just like Paul did.

You're confused brother. Trust me, you've gotten caught up in the wrong crowd. I pray you'll find your way.


Grace and peace

LOL, now I'm sure you're just plain confused, and you have to use false accusations to back up your case. If you show me where I ever "claimed anyone who participated in Halloween was a phony Christian", or where I have ever made any claim to know ANYONE salvation status and I will apologies right here and now. Here you go again though, like a cheating partner accusing me of doing what you do in almost every thread I've seen you in. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE I EVER SEE PROCLAIMING PEOPLES SALVATION LIKE YOU KNOW IT!!!!! Wake up man, and stop accusing everyone else of your own sins. I also see you never stated your main point. Obvious trolls are obvious.
 
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I'll take a little comfort in seeing an opinion expressed I can embrace.

What a strange conversation. Paul says this explicitly in the present tense as a christian. Yet the wise and pious of this thread say he made a mistake and should have spoken in the past tense.

How do you reason with people like this? I'll never understand how the human mind works in this regard. Regardless of your soteriology, this should be an easy one. Basic soteriology 101. We christens, like Paul, are sinners. We're also former a lot of things, but we're sinners.
that's cool ....you claim your sinnership....now look at all the epistles and in the introduction....all those addressed to sinners you follow those teachings and I will follow those addressed to the saints....
 
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LOL, now I'm sure you're just plain confused, and you have to use false accusations to back up your case. If you show me where I ever "claimed anyone who participated in Halloween was a phony Christian", or where I have ever made any claim to know ANYONE salvation status and I will apologies right here and now. Here you go again though, like a cheating partner accusing me of doing what you do in almost every thread I've seen you in. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE I EVER SEE PROCLAIMING PEOPLES SALVATION LIKE YOU KNOW IT!!!!! Wake up man, and stop accusing everyone else of your own sins. I also see you never stated your main point. Obvious trolls are obvious.
actually Jim I confronted you on how harsh you were being in that thread, and you actually humbled yourself, and were distressed about the accusations you were making. I commended you at that time, but you have obviously fell off the wagon again in your attacks and false accusations against me.

Not only that you were attempting to see send slandering PM's about me, which you accidentally sent to me (what irony). Will you deny that now too? It was in those PM's you accused me of licentiousness, a doctrine I totally reject. And this was all in the name of how you believed you were less licentious than me. I was supposed to be the licentious one, and you turned to gossip and slander. There's a think irony there.

Now, where have I ever accused you of not being saved? I asked you this when you first made the accusation and you haven't shown me where I said it. In fact, I've expressly commended you for admitting you are a sinner, which BF refuses to do.

Now, I do have my doubts about those who refuse to admit they are sinners as Paul did. Paul called himself the chief of sinners in the present tense after he was saved. BF and others say he made a mistake in doing that. Something is very suspect about that, and I stand by my words. I am in doubt they really know God. For the true christian, who strives to fulfill God's law everyday, admitting you're a sinner is the easiest thing in the world. I don't know for sure, but I feel compelled to warn them. Something's just not right. Hopefully it's just bad doctrine and stubborn pride, but something's wrong.
 
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Bride, I like you, your right on here, except this is a everyday battle amongst the flesh in this life... Say if you lose your little sister you love dearly (God forbid, if you have a sister). How will you know if you past the test, until we experience such, we are still in testing ground as long as we're here on this soil of Earth.. We must prove ourselves worthy of The Kingdom of God. We can say we're perfect, and so fourth, but until the test comes, we will never know, and even if we fail such test, we repent, your confusing sin with evil, and malicious intent, " a dirty heart". There are folks with a dirty heart and only God can help them. There are those who are decent "good hearted" people that don't know Jesus yet, for whatever reasons... It's our job to not choose who's who.. But to speak Gods truth on those who will listen, believe, and repent..be saved, and live righteously ..
 
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that's cool ....you claim your sinnership....now look at all the epistles and in the introduction....all those addressed to sinners you follow those teachings and I will follow those addressed to the saints....
I follow Paul who claimed he was both a sinner and saint. You follow the apostles here that don't.
 
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Let's try something different, maybe even fun, if not revealing... if we aren't scared to do so;

I saw someone ask someone else a question that prompted this, something about sinning in this last week, and thought maybe that was a good question, how about we all answer that question?
Wow.
Would that be telling or what?

I'll go first...

I can't remember having an occasion this last week where I was without the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus sitting on the Throne, and me sitting right there in that Heavenly place with Him in sinless righteousness and joy and peace with my Lord and Husband Jesus the Christ, His face ever before me...
Yet I CAN remember the times this last week when a whiff of a temptation would come through now and again upon my soul, while in the Bosom of Abraham... that wicked one of my old man attempt to bring an old temptation up or feeling that would lead to no good and never has... and calling His Name and watching Jesus Come swiftly and conquer and slay that wicked one attempting to raise their old ugly head up out of the waters of baptism where I buried it... the battle of Armageddon, once again the enemy vanquished by the Sword of the Spirit of Him on that White Horse, the Word of God is His Name!

Ok, someone else go now, tell of how you dealt with temptation last week?
 
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Now, I do have my doubts about those who refuse to admit they are sinners as Paul did. Paul called himself the chief of sinners in the present tense after he was saved. BF and others say he made a mistake in doing that. Something is very suspect about that, and I stand by my words. I am in doubt they really know God. For the true christian, who strives to fulfill God's law everyday, admitting you're a sinner is the easiest thing in the world. I don't know for sure, but I feel compelled to warn them. Something's just not right.
Listen, this is my last time with you, because nothing is sinking in, and your starting to "anger" me ..quite righteously, so not a sin. If you don't want to learn, then go about your way, all you have is Paul calling himself chief of sinners...out of the WHOLE BIBLE, plenty have quoted verses that shows the contrary... If it's not in your heart to do the right thing, then that's you. Don't justify what you do through this statement made by Paul, you sound foolish, YES I am a sinner " brother " as Jim said the Spirit shows me all the time, not to cuss "catch myself most x", get angry "doing really well controlling that", smoke a cigarette "trying to quit, have a vapor cig" controlling my thoughts when seeing to much of tightly dressed women," controlling my thoughts are getting easier and easier" o yah, I eat ham some x to, THESE ARE MY SINS... I'm a man who has to live in flesh and am still dying to it daily, What's yours, that you defend sin so much, ? Do you rape women and children, or pervert Gods word, (well this your doing now) "sin" .. Why do you want others to think they have Jesus and are able to dwell and indulge in sin?

This means they can go complete the thought and fornicate, get drunk, do drugs, listen to crazy music, steal, murder, rape, hurt children, and it's ok...Paul was chief of sinners.... YOU SOUND FOOLISH.. I'm done repeating myself to you, go over the thread if you want to hear it again. O, and I do love you or I would just let you go on, I correct out of love, and truth, be blessed and have a good day.
 
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Listen, this is my last time with you, because nothing is sinking in, and your starting to "anger" me ......
That's fine BF, I'll move on as well. This is the last line I'll be reading, unless the communication lines open back up. If you're getting mad, then whatever you say is going to be distorted by anger, and won't represent you well.
 

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Listen, this is my last time with you, because nothing is sinking in, and your starting to "anger" me ..quite righteously, so not a sin. If you don't want to learn, then go about your way, all you have is Paul calling himself chief of sinners...out of the WHOLE BIBLE, plenty have quoted verses that shows the contrary... If it's not in your heart to do the right thing, then that's you. Don't justify what you do through this statement made by Paul, you sound foolish, YES I am a sinner " brother " as Jim said the Spirit shows me all the time, not to cuss "catch myself most x", get angry "doing really well controlling that", smoke a cigarette "trying to quit, have a vapor cig" controlling my thoughts when seeing to much of tightly dressed women," controlling my thoughts are getting easier and easier" o yah, I eat ham some x to, THESE ARE MY SINS... I'm a man who has to live in flesh and am still dying to it daily, What's yours, that you defend sin so much, ? Do you rape women and children, or pervert Gods word, (well this your doing now) "sin" .. Why do you want others to think they have Jesus and are able to dwell and indulge in sin?

This means they can go complete the thought and fornicate, get drunk, do drugs, listen to crazy music, steal, murder, rape, hurt children, and it's ok...Paul was chief of sinners.... YOU SOUND FOOLISH.. I'm done repeating myself to you, go over the thread if you want to hear it again. O, and I do love you or I would just let you go on, I correct out of love, and truth, be blessed and have a good day.

​Brainfreeze, the ignore list works wonders..you should try it if you don't wanna keep bangin' your head on the wall..lol.. just saying :) Go to settings tab up top of screen, click on "edit ignore list" in the list on the lefthand side, add his name, and voila!! :) No more gnashing of teeth, or bashing of head into brick wall.. lol
 

Jimbone

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​Brainfreeze, the ignore list works wonders..you should try it if you don't wanna keep bangin' your head on the wall..lol.. just saying :) Go to settings tab up top of screen, click on "edit ignore list" in the list on the lefthand side, add his name, and voila!! :) No more gnashing of teeth, or bashing of head into brick wall.. lol
That funny I just updated mine. I hate to even use it, but sometimes the ol' sandals just need to be dusted off really bad.
 
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​Brainfreeze, the ignore list works wonders..you should try it if you don't wanna keep bangin' your head on the wall..lol.. just saying :) Go to settings tab up top of screen, click on "edit ignore list" in the list on the lefthand side, add his name, and voila!! :) No more gnashing of teeth, or bashing of head into brick wall.. lol
Yea, Blueladybug, I really hate two things, one hurting innocence ..children and women, other that I hate just as much is twisting Gods words and not getting even a glimpse of a change of heart after being corrected. Yeah, I hate to ignore a person, but he's working on it. Thanks for the advice though sister...
 

blue_ladybug

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That funny I just updated mine. I hate to even use it, but sometimes the ol' sandals just need to be dusted off really bad.
​Mine only has one or two people on it..lol.. :) I get along with pretty much everyone on here, thank goodness.. :)
 
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That's fine BF, I'll move on as well. This is the last line I'll be reading, unless the communication lines open back up. If you're getting mad, then whatever you say is going to be distorted by anger, and won't represent you well.
All the guy has to say after that whole paragraph... Smh.. What can we do? Fine, move on but just don't say when you get to judgment.. No one told you any better, it's your own fault, no one else's ...Free will can be a gift or a curse, pending on how we use it. I will pray for you Calminian, and the line is always open, in truth, nothing less..
 

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Once You Realize U R a Sinner, Is Salvation OK?

Once You Realize U R a Sinner, Is Salvation OK?

Do you realize you must have salvation to get out of your jam?
How high can you rise by pulling on your boots?
Is there any cure for you except death of your old man & rebirth?

How much salvation do you need?
Just a little to remove a few jagged edges?
Are you willing to let go of the whole Old You?
Realize it is all rubbish and be transformed, metamorphosized?

Or will you come before the omnipotent, omniscient Lord of the Universe like this:

"Now Lord, it has dawned upon me this day that I have a few imperfections here & there;
I mean alongside my basic 99 precent gold, there is a slight blemish here & there. I don't really need saving -- certainly not a major overhaul, but just a little boost so's I can do it myself with my righteous will power and come up to peak performance. I realize how I am doing you a favor by associating with you, what with my sparkling charm, and that by your cooperating with me, you are really doing yourself a favor. And I want you to know that I have decided to bless you by letting you have the fascinating delight of my presence in Heaven."
 

Jimbone

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Re: Once You Realize U R a Sinner, Is Salvation OK?

Once You Realize U R a Sinner, Is Salvation OK?

Do you realize you must have salvation to get out of your jam?
How high can you rise by pulling on your boots?
Is there any cure for you except death of your old man & rebirth?

How much salvation do you need?
Just a little to remove a few jagged edges?
Are you willing to let go of the whole Old You?
Realize it is all rubbish and be transformed, metamorphosized?

Or will you come before the omnipotent, omniscient Lord of the Universe like this:

"Now Lord, it has dawned upon me this day that I have a few imperfections here & there;
I mean alongside my basic 99 precent gold, there is a slight blemish here & there. I don't really need saving -- certainly not a major overhaul, but just a little boost so's I can do it myself with my righteous will power and come up to peak performance. I realize how I am doing you a favor by associating with you, what with my sparkling charm, and that by your cooperating with me, you are really doing yourself a favor. And I want you to know that I have decided to bless you by letting you have the fascinating delight of my presence in Heaven."
What are you talking about, and who are you responding to?
 
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Bride, I like you, your right on here, except this is a everyday battle amongst the flesh in this life... Say if you lose your little sister you love dearly (God forbid, if you have a sister). How will you know if you past the test, until we experience such, we are still in testing ground as long as we're here on this soil of Earth.. We must prove ourselves worthy of The Kingdom of God. We can say we're perfect, and so fourth, but until the test comes, we will never know, and even if we fail such test, we repent, your confusing sin with evil, and malicious intent, " a dirty heart". There are folks with a dirty heart and only God can help them. There are those who are decent "good hearted" people that don't know Jesus yet, for whatever reasons... It's our job to not choose who's who.. But to speak Gods truth on those who will listen, believe, and repent..be saved, and live righteously ..
Hi Brain, well thank you :) I like you too and everyone else too haha. I'm not sure what else you were trying to explain, I'm not sure what test you are referring to. Jesus conquers all my battles, they are His anyways. The number of brothers and sisters and sons and daughters I've lost have been a tragedy, but not sure what test you might be referring to, was that a "test" for you? You can explain if you like. And actually, only Jesus proves me worthy by His Blood, I couldn't ever do that for myself. And this part I didn't understand at all, "your confusing sin with evil, and malicious intent, " a dirty heart". Did you mean to send that to me? I'm pretty sure I'm not confused about lol. I can tell you all about it if you wanted hehe, but perhaps you were replying to someone else, I've done that too, no worries :)