Those are all quotes by a well renowned pastor named
Leonard Ravenhill.
I like them because they bear witness, and conviction.
I can relate to them for having experienced them.
I do agree with you that it is not our work which can save us.
Not going back to the law as a means of salvation, but had we not been informed we are unworthy of salvation due to sin, well then we would have no need for Christ...Correct?
If our sin is of no consequence, then why Did Christ have to die for it?
Our sin has been revealed and light brought into our own darkness after coming to know Christ.
Why?
To purge it out of our very soul.
Not to mix with it like oil and water.
It is what we do, tolerate, and say...that we shall be judged by...correct?
Even after the gift of salvation there is still judgement, even if no condemnation
Is this not enough to convict our own conscious to not tolerate that which we know upsets the Lord we claim to serve.
Yet then turn right around and put more effort into serving ourselves, even after one has come to Christ and sacrificed themselves as a living sacrifice to him?
How do you know when that has happened?
I challenge you and encourage you to do so. A living sacrifice to the Lord.
He said to follow him right. More than our own dreams and wants and ambitions.
Not that I myself am better, not that I am more righteous because of any act or work.
Not that I am more of a sinner if I do not do as many works as you if you already are aware of these things.
But that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than to settle for one of lower excellence.
God has made us capable of this by yes, his righteousness manifest within us through the Holy Spirit of Truth.
But realizing that sin, any sin, which drives a wedge in order to separate us from God in any way.
If we tolerate that, justify it, excuse it within ourselves, how much more do we tolerate the same in the body of Christ.
Christ didn't come only to die for us,
But to also usher us into the new covenant by expanding upon the Lords expectations of us.
Stating that not only don't murder but don't hate
Not only don't commit adultery, but don't look upon another with lust.
Are you seriously suggesting we throw out these important Godly fundamental morals of Christs sermon on the mount and not apply them to our very lives because.....Christ did it all for us and nothing further is required?
I sure hope not.
TO be clear:
I never said we were saved by what we did. I said we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, this is in the Bible,not a cute saying I invented. I also made it clear, it is not anything we do that to earn righteousness or to continue attmepting to obtain it. It is imputed unto as when we are saved, based solely on what Jesus did at the cross and nothing else and nothing takes away that righteousness.
I never said sin has no consequence. In fact, I never brought up that I do not sin, because I do and I never said there was no consequence to SIN, because there is. There is a God and there is a Devil and there is a heaven to gain and a hell to shun.
but had we not been informed we are unworthy of salvation due to sin, well then we would have no need for Christ...Correct?
SO when do you stop counting yourself unworthy?
Our sin has been revealed and light brought into our own darkness after coming to know Christ.Why? To purge it out of our very soul. Not to mix with it like oil and water.
The Bible says the Holy Spirit convicts/reproves the world of sin. [See John 16]
It is what we do, tolerate, and say...that we shall be judged by...correct?
Where in the Bible does it state we are judged by what we tolerate? If that is true God would not have saved Noah.
Even after the gift of salvation there is still judgement, even if no condemnation
Is this not enough to convict our own conscious to not tolerate that which we know upsets the Lord we claim to serve.
Yet then turn right around and put more effort into serving ourselves, even after one has come to Christ and sacrificed themselves as a living sacrifice to him?How do you know when that has happened?
The Bible says there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus...The Bible says to become a living sacrifice by the renewing of your mind...If you don't know when you attain spiritual maturity , then I leave that to you and the Lord.
I challenge you and encourage you to do so.
Not that I myself am better, not that I am more righteous because of any act or work.
Not that I am more of a sinner if I do not do as many works as you if you already are aware of these things.
But that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than to settle for one of lower excellence.
God has made us capable of this by yes, his righteousness manifest within us through the Holy Spirit of Truth.
God did not manifest righteousness to us by the Holy Spirit, the Bible says in 2 Cor 5.21 that we are made the righteousness of God through Christ Jesus, not the Holy Spirit.
You are confusing daily sanctification with obtaining righteousness and the Bible tells you, you are already righteous before God through what Jesus did at the Cross. The Holy Spirit does not impart righteousness, it was imputed to you at the Cross.
Anything you do on your own to try to obtain righteousness, is self righteousness and not needed, because Jesus did it all.
But realizing that sin, any sin, which drives a wedge in order to separate us from God in any way.
If we tolerate that, justify it, excuse it within ourselves, how much more do we tolerate the same in the body of Christ
Where in the Bible does it say you fall out of righteousness with the Father if you tolerate or excuse SIN? Furthermore, the Bible defines SIN and the SIN cycle in Gen 3, James 1 and 1 John 2.
Most of what the body calls SIN, is not SIN, because the 3 passages above clearly tell us and show us that SIN is a CHOICE, not an act of commission or omission. Simply put, SIN is a CHOICE you make, not an act you cower and run from, because you just cannot help yourself.
Christ didn't come only to die for us,
But to also usher us into the new covenant by expanding upon the Lords expectations of us.
Stating that not only don't murder but don't hate
Not only don't commit adultery, but don't look upon another with lust.
Are you seriously suggesting we throw out these important Godly fundamental morals of Christs sermon on the mount and not apply them to our very lives because.....Christ did it all for us and nothing further is required?
I sure hope not.
I am not saying anything like you are suggesting. I am telling you what the Bible says about our righteousness and when you come to understand this foundational Biblical truth you will never let the sin consciousness beset you again. Before you jump like a frog, study up on what the sin consciousness is. I t does not mean we will ever be without SIN, it is quite the contrary.
But understanding righteousness will allow everything else to fall into place.
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