me being an atheist

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zavok

zavok

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on many other websites i do have people ask me why am i an atheist this poem would explain a part of my reason to be an atheist im jus doing this so you can understand a little and so i dont have to keep repeating myself

Atheism offers nothing to me,
it never has and never will,
it doesn't make me feel good or comfort me,
it's not there for me when I'm sick or ill,
it won't intervene in my times of need or protect me from hate,
it doesn't care if I fail or succeed,
it won't wipe the tears from my eyes,
it does nothing when I have no where to run,
it won't give me wise words or advice,
it has no teaches for me to learn,
it can't show me what's bad or nice,
it's never inspired or excited anyone,
it won't help me fulfill all my goals,
it won't tell me to stop when I'm having fun,
it's never saved one single soul,
it doesn't take credit for everything I achieve,
it won't make me get down on bended knee,
it doesn't demand that I have to believe,
it won't torture me for eternity,
it won't teach me to hate or despise others,
it won't tell me what's right or wrong,
it can't tell nobody not to be lovers,
it's told no one they don't belong,
it won't make you think life is worth living,
it has nothing to offer me, that's true,
but the reason Atheism offers me nothing is because I've never asked it to,
Atheism offers nothing because it doesn't need to,
Religion promises everything because you want it to,
You don't need a Religion or to have faith,
You just want it because you need to feel safe,
I want to feel reality and nothing more,
Atheism offers me everything,
but Religion has stolen before.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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u a true atheist? not believing in ANY power? (not even laws of nature, electricity...?)

and if you need to explain why you are an atheist, you do the same as we d, you preach atheism, your own "religion" ;)
 
zavok

zavok

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atheist doesnt mean we dont belive in any power its manily a higher power and it cant be consered a religion because we all are different im not preaching if u read my statement i say there may be a possibilty that there is a god i do not know that i dont have the answer to the universe but if he was real i wouldnt follow him becuase of the things he has done
 
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wwjd_kilden

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most poeple I have met who are atheist DID preach, trying to "convert" me.

Can I ask why you are on a christian forum? (strictly curiosity)

and define follow him
I believe the story of the bible. so I believe in christ. according to the bible, that is my way to God, no matter how I live, but that I should try to be good to all that I meet

people have always done bad things in the name of God, religion, money, power and whatever else they can think of. it's just excuses for their evil, and that why we have so many wars here on earth

and ps: I don't think hell is a place of torture, thats Dantes work. hell is a place without Gods presence
 
zavok

zavok

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i like to talk to other people with different cultures and i like a bit of discussion
 
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zavok

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im not going to try and convert any one becuase one i dont know how the world is created i have my theories that u can say i belive in but they could be wrong i dont have the right to convert anyone if some1 was to convert i belive it should be of there own choice and discovery and not because some else say you should because this that and the other will happen to you if you dont convert
 
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zavok

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that poem is jus saying what christianty offers and what athesim others and then why that person chose athesim
 
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wwjd_kilden

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ok :) Just checking
 
iitywyhm

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This poem provides an ignorant reason for being an atheist. Most atheists I have met are atheist because they believe that the universe works fine without a creator. They believe that the bible contradicts too much, and, even if it didn't, they think the stories seem like fairy tales. Most atheists didn't necessarily choose to be atheist. Religion is something that just didn't click with them. A lot of atheists love learning, and are generally quite smart. You don't sound like it, though.
 
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Maddog

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zavok said:
im not going to try and convert any one becuase one i dont know how the world is created i have my theories that u can say i belive in but they could be wrong i dont have the right to convert anyone if some1 was to convert i belive it should be of there own choice and discovery and not because some else say you should because this that and the other will happen to you if you dont convert
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Don't all converts do so of their own choice? No one can force someone to believe something.
 
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zavok

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well if you brought up a child to belive in christianity without given him/her the chance to see the world and to make his/her desicion on what to belive did that child really become christian on his own
 
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zavok said:
well if you brought up a child to belive in christianity without given him/her the chance to see the world and to make his/her desicion on what to belive did that child really become christian on his own
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I plan on letting my children decide on which religion to follow, if any.
 
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Maddog

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zavok said:
well if you brought up a child to belive in christianity without given him/her the chance to see the world and to make his/her desicion on what to belive did that child really become christian on his own
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Maybe not, but they are still free to decide against it when they're older. A child will inevitably be brought up to believe in something, for example, if the parents are atheists the kid will probably grow up an atheist; did they really choose atheism on their own?

Ultimately every parent has the duty to raise their child the best they can. If the parents believe that Christianity is true, then they would be being neglectful if they did not pass this on to their children.
 
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zavok

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that depends on the parent if they told them not to belive in god then yes athesim is forced upon i was told i can belive what i want to my parents gave me that respect and i did go to some christain youth groups and my primary school had religious assembles and yet i chose to become an athesit
 
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Maddog

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zavok said:
that depends on the parent if they told them not to belive in god then yes athesim is forced upon i was told i can belive what i want to my parents gave me that respect and i did go to some christain youth groups and my primary school had religious assembles and yet i chose to become an athesit
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Well like it or not, every kid is brought up believing something even if this is moral and religious relativism. But anyway, I don't see that parents bringing their children up as best they possibly can (which includes moral and religious beliefs) is forcing anyone. It's simply called good parenting. Basically, if they believe something to be absolute truth and essential for a person's wellbeing, then it is entirely reasonable (indeed it is their duty as parents) for them to encourage their kids to follow the same path.
 
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socperkins

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One thing I don't like about the poem Zavok - "You don't need a Religion or to have faith, You just want it because you need to feel safe". I hear this quite often from Atheists - they say I believe in God because I'm scared of a world without a God, and I'm afraid of dying and poofing into nothingness. This irritates me because it's not true for me at all. If God doesn't exist, and I die and just stop existing, it's not going to bother me one bit because I won't exist to have an opinion on the matter. And Christianity make me safe? I've received more insults and ridicule from being a Christian than if I was any other religion.

Other than that, I understand the poem and I respect your opinion. You must understand though, a lot of people on this forum want you to be a Christian. We're not doing it to get you into the fan club, we're not doing it to get anything out of you, we're just doing it because we love you. We want you to go to Heaven :D.

Also remember that we have conviction, so it might feel like you're talking to a wall :p. Christians don't really deal in maybes. Hebrews 11:1 - "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." (NIV) We don't think there is a God, we know there is a God.
 
zavok

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i do agree with you on that i dont really belive there is just one reason to it that part maybe true for some people like we were saying early if you brought up as a child to be a christian you wasnt religious because you were scared u was brought up to belive. when i have spoken to christian before i sometimes get the impression that they do all these good things not because they want to but jus for jesus and god (im not saying everyone is like that). all i say to people trying to convert me is " me being atheist gives me the power to love everyone without haveing to think is it right"
 
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Maddog

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zavok said:
all i say to people trying to convert me is " me being atheist gives me the power to love everyone without haveing to think is it right"
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Two questions:

1. Do you love everyone?
2. Do you think it is right to love everyone?
 
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Maddog

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Kathleen said:
R u a born again christian or r u an athiest aswell?
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She's banned is what she is. I don't know what happens to people banned from ChristianChat but I heard they go straight to 7th circle of of hell.
 
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