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The big idea is to VOTE. If you know just one best choice candidate, then your vote has purpose, and always counts. Here in Arkansas I've been very active in several local campaigns, phone-banking for local races like city board, mayor, JP, the ones that affect citizens directly daily and directly. I'll be voting tomorrow and holding a sign or two, explaining what the issues are to undecided voters. I hope to silence the U.S. Senate's Harry Reid by reversing control of that body, and changing up the committees. Together with House control by red states (R) we can fix problems and stop Obama from ruling like a dictator. The U.S. House needs to be Republican-controlled too. Probably a major issue few people give attention to the federal judge problems and the need to put term limits on them. They are ruling us from the bench. Between the President and his executive orders going around the will of the people, and the fed judges, we really are not a free nation today.
It isn't too late to volunteer to do something for someone running for an important local office. If you don't know, visit a campaign office and ask questions. Having a better city board member can easily result in keeping your property value high as possible. The right one can lead the board to attract more jobs to your area, improving the local economy. Having the party listening the most to God and valuing biblical principles can ultimately keep your church doors open and not padlocked over "anti political correctness sermons" the extremist liberal want stopped regardless of free speech rights.
Search for "(your county) 2014 voting guide" online, read up tonight. Search for a possible "Tea Party" link to your county or city. They are not evil, but made up of a cross-section of regular American citizens. I disagreee with a few of their picks here, and will actually vote for two Democrats. One is running for "children's advocate" in circuit court who isn't using that job to build a political career. I am voting on the basis of known integrity, experience, loving care for all children, and is willing to put the district and his/her job at risk to protect children living in dangerous home environments. The career-minded attorney doesn't ruffle feathers. The problem with politics in that kind of position ought not to be politicized, as unless you frequent the court on behalf of a spouse with child with a drug dealing/addicted spouse, or boyfriend/girlfriend with a child in household, nothing would be known of that matter. Yet, voters will likely just mark one or the other without a clue.
Voting without a clue is not wise. Pray before going in the booth, but do your homework. God gave man the power to self govern. God is not yet ruling mankind by exercising total sovereignty. Humanity was given dominion, a job that has gone wanting among people. Satan and wicked people have all along struggled to keep power over us, limiting liberty and freedom, as that is necessary to preach the gospel world-wide. It might sound odd, but there was a time when most of Russia was deeply Christian. But the people handed over their freedoms little by little one generation at a time until a revolution ended all their freedoms.
It isn't too late to volunteer to do something for someone running for an important local office. If you don't know, visit a campaign office and ask questions. Having a better city board member can easily result in keeping your property value high as possible. The right one can lead the board to attract more jobs to your area, improving the local economy. Having the party listening the most to God and valuing biblical principles can ultimately keep your church doors open and not padlocked over "anti political correctness sermons" the extremist liberal want stopped regardless of free speech rights.
Search for "(your county) 2014 voting guide" online, read up tonight. Search for a possible "Tea Party" link to your county or city. They are not evil, but made up of a cross-section of regular American citizens. I disagreee with a few of their picks here, and will actually vote for two Democrats. One is running for "children's advocate" in circuit court who isn't using that job to build a political career. I am voting on the basis of known integrity, experience, loving care for all children, and is willing to put the district and his/her job at risk to protect children living in dangerous home environments. The career-minded attorney doesn't ruffle feathers. The problem with politics in that kind of position ought not to be politicized, as unless you frequent the court on behalf of a spouse with child with a drug dealing/addicted spouse, or boyfriend/girlfriend with a child in household, nothing would be known of that matter. Yet, voters will likely just mark one or the other without a clue.
Voting without a clue is not wise. Pray before going in the booth, but do your homework. God gave man the power to self govern. God is not yet ruling mankind by exercising total sovereignty. Humanity was given dominion, a job that has gone wanting among people. Satan and wicked people have all along struggled to keep power over us, limiting liberty and freedom, as that is necessary to preach the gospel world-wide. It might sound odd, but there was a time when most of Russia was deeply Christian. But the people handed over their freedoms little by little one generation at a time until a revolution ended all their freedoms.
I vote for Jesus Christ because all the other kings will just one day fade away. My trust and allegiance is to Christ and not in a nation that will one day be put under Christ's feet or rulership. Right now. No national leaders (Who run a nation) worship Jesus Christ and try to implent a way of life under Him. Soooooo.... if they are not worshiping Christ, then who exactly are they worshiping? Think about it.
B
Many Americans feel the way you do and are exercising their right not to vote. I have been following politics since I was 10 years of age. Got "turn off" completely by the time I was eligible to vote.
Translation: I never voted and never will because the system is too corrupt. The elite, corporations and very wealthy families run this country ... not the American people. Those entities need us to keep the machine well oiled and maintained for their exploits & manipulation. The overwhelming majority of decisions are made behind close doors, regardless how we feel about the issues. It's not about us, it is about them. If the well oiled machine process is threatened, they will occasionally make an adjustment to suit our needs. That is becoming rare in these last, latter & end days.
And that's my three cents.
Translation: I never voted and never will because the system is too corrupt. The elite, corporations and very wealthy families run this country ... not the American people. Those entities need us to keep the machine well oiled and maintained for their exploits & manipulation. The overwhelming majority of decisions are made behind close doors, regardless how we feel about the issues. It's not about us, it is about them. If the well oiled machine process is threatened, they will occasionally make an adjustment to suit our needs. That is becoming rare in these last, latter & end days.
And that's my three cents.
P
If you don't vote against the democrats you are voting for them.
Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."
Then clearly you don't pay attention to who is in control. The democratic platform embraces abortion....let that soak in...it is part of their platform, their agenda. Republicans are against it..I would get on you for not voting, but people that are not informed of the issues, not educated about the solons controlling them, are too ignorant to vote.
Angela, I must say I am quite surprised to hear that from you. You aren't as informed of the bible as I thought. A believer must let his light shine to the world. Nowhere in the bible can you find support for sticking your head in the sand when politics come up. Christ is our king, all power and authority is given by God, and if those in control are reprobate we are to stand and be heard. Tell me, Angela, do you have any idea of how many times Christians and believers became enemies of the state because they wouldn't be silent? Don't you understand that Christ was murdered because He was seen, indeed, He was, a threat to those in power? Do you believe that if a believer is running against a satanist, for example, that you should be as quiet as a church house mouse? You need to think about this topic. Politicians that want to kill babies should have free rein from you?
Whether the evil is a demon, lust in your own mind, or satan in your leaders mind, you are to stand against it. What exactly do you think you need all that armor in the 6th chapter of Ephesians for?
satan has taken this battle to a physical level. While we need not feel compelled to pick up arms, the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, is a weapon of offense, not defense. You can't use it unless you open your mouth, now can you?
Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."
Then clearly you don't pay attention to who is in control. The democratic platform embraces abortion....let that soak in...it is part of their platform, their agenda. Republicans are against it..I would get on you for not voting, but people that are not informed of the issues, not educated about the solons controlling them, are too ignorant to vote.
Angela, I must say I am quite surprised to hear that from you. You aren't as informed of the bible as I thought. A believer must let his light shine to the world. Nowhere in the bible can you find support for sticking your head in the sand when politics come up. Christ is our king, all power and authority is given by God, and if those in control are reprobate we are to stand and be heard. Tell me, Angela, do you have any idea of how many times Christians and believers became enemies of the state because they wouldn't be silent? Don't you understand that Christ was murdered because He was seen, indeed, He was, a threat to those in power? Do you believe that if a believer is running against a satanist, for example, that you should be as quiet as a church house mouse? You need to think about this topic. Politicians that want to kill babies should have free rein from you?
Whether the evil is a demon, lust in your own mind, or satan in your leaders mind, you are to stand against it. What exactly do you think you need all that armor in the 6th chapter of Ephesians for?
satan has taken this battle to a physical level. While we need not feel compelled to pick up arms, the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, is a weapon of offense, not defense. You can't use it unless you open your mouth, now can you?
P
As a matter of clarification I am registered independent, which disqualifies me from voting in the primaries. I haven't as much voted for one guy as I have voted against another. The idea that your vote doesn't matter does not clear your conscience from voting.
Remember the scripture I just quoted - if you aren't for someone, you're against them. For every vote you refuse to give, another vote for abortion goes thru. At the very least, understand that your vote could cancel out someone else's vote for abortion.
Remember the scripture I just quoted - if you aren't for someone, you're against them. For every vote you refuse to give, another vote for abortion goes thru. At the very least, understand that your vote could cancel out someone else's vote for abortion.
The Anti-Christ will no doubt do many good things to get people to follow him. That doesn't mean I am going to vote for him, though. Unless they are a born again bible believing Christian who has a ministry (that is humble to serve Christ and not for material gain), then I would vote for them. But I have not heard of anyone like that ever even getting a chance of getting close to winning an election ever. Nor do I expect it to happen, either. Times are gonna get worse and they are not going to get better, my friend.
People are forgetting that EVERYONE your gonna vote for (Who has a chance of winning) is under the control of the wicked one. Satan controls this world (or the evil men that are in power of it's nations). You will do more good in preaching the gospel and teaching His Word than involving yourself in the world's affairs. We are in the world but we are not of the world.
K
I would love to see Gov.Huckabee run.I think he'd make a great president.We may never get an evangelical president to run,we wont get a perfect Christian but please think about your vote.If you don't vote you allow abortions to become more prevalent,you allow gay marriage to become the norm.God never wanted us to have a fatalistic attitude.People fought and died for our freedom.Look at countries that don't have those freedoms.Do we want to live that way? Or more importantly children and grandchildren.Its not que sera sera.Thats not what God wants.America has been a great beacon to the world.It has helped spread the gospel in so many ways.I think God gave us these freedoms and we should fight to keep them!
P
You aren't "in" the world...you have sequestered yourself in a cave where you don't have to acknowledge that you're part of it. What part of it are you? The part that allows evil to flourish by keeping silent? There is no scripture to support that kind of position. Quite the contrary, Christ said "occupy til I come". You think He wanted you to occupy yourself counting daises and marking days off with a piece of chalk on the side of a cave??????
You very much need to familiarize yourself with the meaning of "implied consent".
You very much need to familiarize yourself with the meaning of "implied consent".
Hey Angela, hope you've been doing well.
Here is my two cents.
I don't think this thread is actually about "American politics" as much as it is about the whole concept of using your vote in some kind of Godly or Biblical way. I think that's a valid topic for discussion.
Many of the comments do seem to address this philosophical concept, rather than specific American politics.
I think the OP may have been asking for specific voting advice, yet she still stated an underlying issue that is actually much deeper, "I feel desperate to do the right thing, to vote Godly..."
I think that is a reasonable concern for a Christian to have.
I think that is a reasonable thing to discuss.
For the record, my own opinion is that if your country allows you to vote, then you should prayerfully vote.
However, I also feel politics are VERY INSIGNIFICANT compared to the preeminence we should be giving to the GOSPEL.
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Here is my two cents.
I don't think this thread is actually about "American politics" as much as it is about the whole concept of using your vote in some kind of Godly or Biblical way. I think that's a valid topic for discussion.
Many of the comments do seem to address this philosophical concept, rather than specific American politics.
I think the OP may have been asking for specific voting advice, yet she still stated an underlying issue that is actually much deeper, "I feel desperate to do the right thing, to vote Godly..."
I think that is a reasonable concern for a Christian to have.
I think that is a reasonable thing to discuss.
For the record, my own opinion is that if your country allows you to vote, then you should prayerfully vote.
However, I also feel politics are VERY INSIGNIFICANT compared to the preeminence we should be giving to the GOSPEL.
: )
This is funny honey.....Republican marries a Democrat on November 27th.....as you can see we will be cancelling out each others vote....
My advise would be to read up on the candidates and check out their voting record and vote for the best person for the job. Of course this is with a prayerful attitude. Asking for God's help before a vote is never a bad idea. I vote person not party.
My advise would be to read up on the candidates and check out their voting record and vote for the best person for the job. Of course this is with a prayerful attitude. Asking for God's help before a vote is never a bad idea. I vote person not party.
We see no example in Scripture of any of the apostles involviing themselves in the cares of the world. Their one goal and mission was to spread the gospel and help the poor. If you live in a country like Brazil that forces you to vote by law, then that is a different matter (Because we are to obey the law of the land if it does not confict with God's laws).
But do you think my efforts would be better put to use in preaching the gospel or in voting? I would say preaching Jesus Christ is more important. That is my goal and my mission like the apostles. Teaching His Word and loving others (As His Word directs). For do you think God is powerless in this world? I don't. That is why I think people vote. They want to have some kind of control in some way. That what they do matters in this world. But that is only on the surface of what they can see. That is not a walk by faith. Sight unseen. Only what you do for God matters by faith (According to His Word). Voting is not mentioned as being a part of the apostle's duties. In fact, we are told not to love the world. If we love the world, the love of the Father is not in us. I see voting (as per one's choice) as loving the world. But I love Jesus Christ (more than any world leader, i.e. the world), so my vote is for Him. For no other King can fix this world better than He can. My choice to elect an evil leader (Who is not serving Jesus Christ) is not going to matter to the Lord. God wants me to choose good people and not evil people.
But do you think my efforts would be better put to use in preaching the gospel or in voting? I would say preaching Jesus Christ is more important. That is my goal and my mission like the apostles. Teaching His Word and loving others (As His Word directs). For do you think God is powerless in this world? I don't. That is why I think people vote. They want to have some kind of control in some way. That what they do matters in this world. But that is only on the surface of what they can see. That is not a walk by faith. Sight unseen. Only what you do for God matters by faith (According to His Word). Voting is not mentioned as being a part of the apostle's duties. In fact, we are told not to love the world. If we love the world, the love of the Father is not in us. I see voting (as per one's choice) as loving the world. But I love Jesus Christ (more than any world leader, i.e. the world), so my vote is for Him. For no other King can fix this world better than He can. My choice to elect an evil leader (Who is not serving Jesus Christ) is not going to matter to the Lord. God wants me to choose good people and not evil people.
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I don't agree Jason, people who started this country, believed in Christ, and had goals to keep us with the freedom we have " hints, the constitution" , Men and women have actually lost limbs and life for this country and if we don't want to remain slaves to the system and watch the entire middle class get smashed to nothing, we will stand up and make the right choices, on who we think will do the best job to lead us out of this disaster.. On all fronts
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[h=1]Romans[/h][h=3]13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to executewrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.[/h]