Gods Mercy,Why the Jews are Still Gods Chosen People

SarahM777 · Nov 7, 2014

Perhaps then you can help me out with this prophesy about Jesus,because I am having a REALLY hard time trying to find where in the Bible this was fulfilled LITERALLY. Perhaps I just missed it,or perhaps I am missing some pages from my Bible,or perhaps NOT all of the prophecies about Jesus were fulfilled literally.

Genesis 3

[SUP]14 [/SUP]So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[SUP][a][/SUP] and hers;
he will crush[SUP][b][/SUP] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

Can you please show me in scripture were Jesus took a two by four,rock,or stick to a serpents head till He crushed the serpents head? And can you show me were a literal serpent bruised Jesus heel? For some strange reason I can't find it. Can you?

Bride · Nov 7, 2014

Doesn't take much to know that those who are "Chosen" are those whom Christ Chose.
Lol.
Eh? At least that is a no-brainer for the Saints. Word of God works so much better than brains lol.

Some very uninformed person somewhere here made the statement "Jews are God's chosen" lol. It almost makes me wish that woman had been raised in my shoes and got beaten repeatedly by her "chosen" Jewish parents, who did everything they could with all their religious opinions and Talmudic traditions " to beat Jesus out of my heart.

No, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Sigh.

I'll post those scriptures... let's just look up God's Word and see who is "chosen" now... Those who know me know that is the ONLY way we do it that is acceptable to God or to me. (yes yes, I've posted these scriptures many times and they are ignored by satan, but it is so fun, because even if satan hates knowing who is Truly Chosen, the rest of us in here can sure party down with some scriptural proof who actually IS CHOSEN haHaaAAA!

Sounds like a winner to me so let's see who is CHOSEN in Scriptures.

CHOICE: WHO IS CHOSEN?!

Is it the ones CHOSEN IN CHRIST?

Or are the murderers of Jesus the Chosen?

Let's see what God tells us O I love this part!!
(Mat 22:14)
For many are called, but few are

chosen. (O O! is it those special Pharisee chaps that crushed thorns on his head?)

(Mar 13:20)
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

(oh, the "elect" are "chosen"... And we are suppose that means non-believing Jews according to the OP)

Ok, let's try another,.,

(Joh 15:19)
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

(Oh my, it appears Jesus doesn't know about the OP here! He is saying that it is His VERY OWN DISCIPLES whom HE HAS CHOSEN! And NOT ONLY that... "OUT OF THE WORLD". What?!!!

Quick! All you "Jews Chosen" people, set Him straight! Evidently Jesus isn't agreeing with this OP! Call Him Names! Throw Rocks at Him! Doesn't He know that the JEWS are CHOSEN? Not CHRISTIANS? Go Tackle Him you holier than thou antaganists against Christ and His True Chosen! Tear Him up with your mouths like you do the CHRISTIANS!)

Or maybe instead...

Let's just in patience and humility move into more understanding of the Holy Spirit Himself some more and learn what He says, that's my favorite

(Act 10:41)

Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

(Act 22:13)

Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

(Act 22:14)

And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

(Joh 15:16)
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

(Act 1:2)

Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

(Eph 1:4)
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

(2Th 2:13)

But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

(Jas 2:5)

Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

(1Pe 2:9)

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

(Rev 17:14)

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Amen and Amen.

(Gal 6:14)

But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

(Gal 6:15)

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

(Gal 6:16)

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Now we know who the Chosen are

Ok, all together, who are the Chosen does God tell us?

YOU! ME! All who love Christ are the Chosen Israel of God

Anyone can divorce themselves from this simple Gospel and go running off after something storebought off the bottom shelf, you're free to do it.

But I like it best when Jesus tells me. And I like to tell all of you

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

SarahM777 said:

did jesus crush satan or did he not?

Now if he never did, but we were supposed to spiritualize it to be something else. then I can agree. but he literally crushed satan.

Just like daniels 4 beasts, literall fulfilled (up to the final beasts end and power)

using a symbol to expose a literal truth is normal (like christ spoke in parables)

but they LITERALLY CAME TRUE.

crossnote · Nov 7, 2014

kaylagrl said:

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

crossnote said:

behold the lamb of God, who TAKES AWAY THE SINS of the world..

kennethcadwell · Nov 7, 2014

eternally-gratefull said:

The battle between Jesus and satan has not happened yet.
Satan is still lose on the earth to this day and will not be bound tell a future event when the tribulation period has become.
Then Satan will be bound and the antichrist and false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire, not yet happened. Then after a 1,000 years of Christ reigning down here on earth, He will release satan again which will set up the final battle where satan will then be cast into the lake of fire as well.

Satan and his demons still control the earth, which is why there is still so much hatred, grief, war, death, and so on....
If satan had already been crushed then all of this would be done away with.

john832 · Nov 7, 2014

crossnote said:

If I may add from the same book...

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

john832 · Nov 7, 2014

kennethcadwell said:

The battle between Jesus and satan has not happened yet.
Satan is still lose on the earth to this day and will not be bound tell a future event when the tribulation period has become.
Then Satan will be bound and the antichrist and false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire, not yet happened. Then after a 1,000 years of Christ reigning down here on earth, He will release satan again which will set up the final battle where satan will then be cast into the lake of fire as well.

Satan and his demons still control the earth, which is why there is still so much hatred, grief, war, death, and so on....
If satan had already been crushed then all of this would be done away with.

Really won't be much of a battle.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2014

eternally-gratefull said:

lets look at verses, its after satan cast in lake of fire.

the second resurrection, great white throne.

the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

the dead, small and great, stand before God;

please tell me where a nation here, there individuals.

no land returning, no nation ,no Isreal mentioned.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

sounds eternal to me.

bringing the two sides together (Israel and Judah) and making them one

is in the 1000 year reign

SoulWeaver · Nov 7, 2014

How is the woman literally saved by childbearing? Why are we being condemned?

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

kennethcadwell said:

The battle between Jesus and satan has not happened yet.
Satan is still lose on the earth to this day and will not be bound tell a future event when the tribulation period has become.
Then Satan will be bound and the antichrist and false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire, not yet happened. Then after a 1,000 years of Christ reigning down here on earth, He will release satan again which will set up the final battle where satan will then be cast into the lake of fire as well.

Satan and his demons still control the earth, which is why there is still so much hatred, grief, war, death, and so on....
If satan had already been crushed then all of this would be done away with.

thats true, but satan was crushed by the cross. his lie was silenced. the only way someone can buy into his lie now is to ignore the truth.

Straightshot · Nov 7, 2014

Someone please answer the following...Why did Jesus die?

Many reasons, but here is the summation as I see it:

His action on the cross was to demonstrate truth .... the depravity of the sinful nature of humanity and the fate that this condition will bring

..... the devil thought he had won

But he did not .... Jesus demonstrated that He is God and only shed His physical tent [body]

The Lord cannot be extinguished by any means

Jesus has existed from the beginning and cannot be killed ... what a folly the devil believes

The Lord is telling us that we need His salvation by His demonstration on the cross

And that He is willing and able to save us for eternity

But we must seek Him for the privilege .... there is no other way

It all comes down to choice .... and the Lord has revealed His position

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

prove-all said:

lets look at verses, its after satan cast in lake of fire.

the second resurrection, great white throne.

the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

the dead, small and great, stand before God;

please tell me where a nation here, there individuals.

no land returning, no nation ,no Isreal mentioned.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

sounds eternal to me.

bringing the two sides together (Israel and Judah) and making them one

is in the 1000 year reign

the 1000 year reign is before the great white throne. It is before the final battle.

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

SoulWeaver said:

not sure what you mean?

Bride · Nov 7, 2014

ChristIsGod said:

Exactly.
Can't get any clearer

Anyone can be grafted in to Israel.
Jew or Gentile.
That is who Israel is.
All are one in Christ who IS the Olive Tree.
Anyone grafted into Israel is Israel.
Anyone broken off from Christ is not Israel.
Those scriptures makes that so simple, thank you for posting.
Clear to see that Anyone who was broken off, can be grafted back in.
That is the Faith of Abraham fulfilled only in Christ.
Only through the Gospel of Jesus the Messiah to Israel can anyone Become Israel out of the Gentiles, GRAFTED IN.
There is "no other way to climb in".
The Grafting into and the growing and growing of the Israel Olive Tree has been going on over 2000 years now,
When the world ends from that comet or nuke or whatever, and the end is reached, IS then COMPLETED the total number of Israel grafted in, it is done. Finished. Complete. Planet earth is no more. No more old heavens and earth.
The prophecies are complete, death itself is destroyed. No one left to die. We now see the end result finally, of Israel fully grafted full of all believers from the preaching of the Gospel down through the last 2000 years or so. We are now All in All. The House of the Lord. Mt Zion. Just like my signature

Christianity 101.

john832 · Nov 7, 2014

prove-all said:

lets look at verses, its after satan cast in lake of fire.

the second resurrection, great white throne.

the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

the dead, small and great, stand before God;

please tell me where a nation here, there individuals.

no land returning, no nation ,no Isreal mentioned.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

sounds eternal to me.

bringing the two sides together (Israel and Judah) and making them one

is in the 1000 year reign

The more I read of you prove-all, the more truth I see that you have.

eternally-gratefull · Nov 7, 2014

Bride said:

oh wow. Your joking right?

We are not grafted into Isreal. We were Grafted into CHRIST.

Israel was cut off, Because they rejected Christ, we were grafted in, because we recieved Christ.

wow. I hope you can admit this mistake.

SarahM777 · Nov 7, 2014

eternally-gratefull said:

Ah so are you saying you pick and choose which part is literal and which part spiritual? And to you literal does not MEAN the actually definition of the word literal.

By the way this is what literal means.

lit·er·al
ˈlidərəl,ˈlitrəl/
adjective
adjective: literal; adjective: literal-minded

1.
taking words in their usual or most basic sense without metaphor or allegory.
"dreadful in its literal sense, full of dread"
- free from exaggeration or distortion.
  "you shouldn't take this as a literal record of events"
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  [TR]
  [TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:[/TD]
  [TD]strict, factual, plain, simple, exact, straightforward; More unembellished, undistorted;
  objective, correct, true, accurate, genuine, authentic
  "the literal sense of the word “dreadful”"
  
  [/TD]
  [/TR]
  [/TABLE]
  
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  [TR]
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  [TD]figurative[/TD]
  [/TR]
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- informal
  absolute (used to emphasize that a strong expression is deliberately chosen to convey one's feelings).
  "fifteen years of literal hell"
2.
(of a translation) representing the exact words of the original text.

SoulWeaver · Nov 7, 2014

The very fact that WORDs are able to carry SPIRITual meaning should be telling us something.
Who made man and gave him the ability to speak?

ChristIsGod · Nov 7, 2014

~*~

continuing on from that same chapter ~

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this 'Mystery', lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;
that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
{so they've been blinded for the Gentiles sake}

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
{so they've been blinded for the Gentiles sake}
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

~*~

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