Gods Mercy,Why the Jews are Still Gods Chosen People

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

My comment:

On and on the preterist goes [just as they all do]

Claiming that the Lord is ruling over this lost world of humanity today

The scriptures tell that it is the devil who is the "god" of this present world

Look around and one can tell the difference

If the Lord's kingdom is currently on this earth ..... then we have a big problem in Bible land

He said that His kingdom is not of this present world

The preterist disagrees .... and all to promote the false concept that the very devil entertains

The scriptures tell the very opposite that the Lord's kingdom is on hold until He eradicates the devil and those that follow [Romans 8]

Remember that Satan is a liar, deceiver, and pretender .... and he has devised corruption among those of the professing church

His is the father of preteristic thinking that he can systematically discredit and destroy the Lord's written word

.... and this is just one of his many distractions .... even messianic Judaism today

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

crossnote said:

Answer the question then instead of defaulting to your ignorant statements here.

Why would somebody listen to YOU, when your FIRST TWO CLAIMS of what you admit are;

1) Jesus isn't King.
2) It isn't the Gospel.

Why would you talk then? who would care what you are saying then? Answer the questions or put your hand on your mouth

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

Messianic Judaism is a more recent movement consisting of a number of rabbinical led pied pipers who lure their memberships into law keeping

Look this up on the Internet .... the Hebraic Roots movements

These various Jewish movements are cults that claim to be Christian

Kerry · Nov 9, 2014

Bride said:

Answer the question then instead of defaulting to your ignorant statements here.

Why would somebody listen to YOU, when your FIRST TWO CLAIMS of what you admit are;

1) Jesus isn't King.
2) It isn't the Gospel.

Why would you talk then? who would care what you are saying then? Answer the questions or put your hand on your mouth

whats your beef SISTER, cross teaches the cross.

SarahM777 · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

This is what that verse says

2 Corinthians 4

Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”[SUP][a][/SUP] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ.

No where in that verse does it say that the god of this age is a KING.

Do you deny this is true?

Colossians 2

[SUP]6 [/SUP]So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, [SUP]7 [/SUP]rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[SUP][a][/SUP] of this world rather than on Christ.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, [SUP]10 [/SUP]and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. [SUP]11 [/SUP]In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh[SUP][b][/SUP] was put off when you were circumcised by[SUP][c][/SUP] Christ, [SUP]12 [/SUP]having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

"Look around" you say. As though what? You're going to see the Kingdom of God on the planet here somewhere? LOL! That is ridiculous! Like were going to believe you?? You do ERR not knowing scriptures;

(Mar 13:21)
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
(Mat 24:23)
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it

not.

(Luk 17:23)
And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

(Luk 17:20)
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

(Luk 17:21)
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

OH! There goes that Jesus SPIRITUALIZING everything again. Hey Jesus! I guess you forgot to check in with the non-gospel einsteins on this thread who don't think you are their King! . Better realize you aren't King and quit spiritualizing everything LOL

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

As I observer her postings Brides beef is coming from her relationship with a Hebraic roots movement theology

These movements are lead by preteristic law keepers who teach the same pharisaical Judaism with the attempt to mix it with Christianity ..... a total contradiction and snare of Satan's deception

This is a tough evaluation of the same and true .... these movements are growing not only in Israel, but even the US

The Lord has warned Israel about the same that He said would come at the time of the end of this present age [Matthew 24:4-5]

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

Not interested thanks. I'm not part of any movement. I just worship my Messiah Jesus King of Israel.

For that, I and my brothers and sisters are being attacked by the seed of Satan here. That's all. Pretty normal as always

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

And SarahM is a bit hard to read at this point

I would need more clarification and will wait to respond

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

Another attempted "stereotype" pulling judgemental lint out of his belly button? You have no idea how silly that is.

I and Soulweaver had to look up "Preterists" because of goofy statements like this already. They appear to have a lot of excellent understanding. They are off a bit about the full "Jesus coming" in AD 70, since Jesus Came in Acts 2, and to each of us when we Receive Him. And there appears to be "partial" and "full" and I don't care, I'm not interested, I don't affiliate with "groups" or take a queue from any of them. I am led totally by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ and I lay out the Word of God.
For this I am attacked, I and my friends.
...who want to impress me that they have a non-gospel to tell me and that Jesus isn't their King. ...which things are obvious hehe
How fun!!

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

"Not interested thanks"

You say ... but your are on the same road Bride

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

Oh we can't wait to see how you stereotype her! Oh this is exciting! *munching popcorn*

peacefulbeliever · Nov 9, 2014

SarahM777 said:

Hebrews 2:8b does say: BUT NOW WE SEE NOT YET ALL THINGS PUT UNDER HIM.

Christ will not set up his kingdom until he returns on earth. I mean take a look around the world. This place is like living in a zoo. Evil is waxing worse and worse - and he is ruling NOW? People are suffering on a scale that we can't even comprehend. Just compare the world today with what the word of God says about the time when Jesus rules the earth and see if the two line up - and he is ruling NOW?

Jesus is now both Lord and Christ . . . (Acts 2:36) In Christ's Kingdom - He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever . . ." Isaiah 9:7

Kerry · Nov 9, 2014

I pray for the peace of Israel, but we need Israel to pray for our peace, I meant who has got your back for now anyways we are sisters I die for you and you die for me. Christianity has always supported Israel and it's waning in America, but I have not forgot the promise that those who bless you I will bless and those that curse you I will curse.

I am reminded of the 23rd Psalm. Thou settest a table for me in the presence of mine enemies

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Straightshot said:

I'm not on any road you see sunshine :/
This is the one I'm on;

(Joh 14:6)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(Psa 27:11)
Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies.

Straightshot · Nov 9, 2014

"Another attempted "stereotype" pulling judgemental lint out of his belly button? You have no idea how silly that is."

I believe you are the one who appears "silly" and will remind you that you can do nothing about my evaluation of your religion

What I observe is that when you are confronted about your religion you then resort to comments like this one

This tells me much about you Bride

Seek the Lord Jesus Christ and He can redirect you .... if He wants

SarahM777 · Nov 9, 2014

peacefulbeliever said:

How much plainly did Jesus have to say this?

John 18

[SUP]36 [/SUP]Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

His kingdom is the kingdom of Heaven.

Bride · Nov 9, 2014

Kerry said:

If you are Israel, then yes I have your back and I support you.

But if anyone says that is the dirty corrupted city outside my door here in the middle east, you've digested poison.

THIS IS ISRAEL. (Posted now a gazillion times

)

(Gal 6:14)
But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
(Gal 6:15)
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
(Gal 6:16)
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
(Gal 6:17)
From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

SarahM777 · Nov 9, 2014

Kerry said:

I pray for the peace of Israel, but we need Israel to pray for our peace, I meant who has got your back for now anyways we are sisters I die for you and you die for me. Christianity has always supported Israel and it's waning in America, but I have not forgot the promise that those who bless you I will bless and those that curse you I will curse.

I am reminded of the 23rd Psalm. Thou settest a table for me in the presence of mine enemies

Christianity supported Israel when they were persecuting the early believers?

peacefulbeliever · Nov 9, 2014

SarahM777 said:

So what you are saying is that He is ruling all things from heaven? He is just king in heaven - not over the earth? So we can still have evil things happening in the world - unrighteousness abounding - because he is just king in heaven? You do not believe that He will be ruling from David's throne - literally? He is doing it spiritually? IOW, you don't believe that when He returns He will set up His kingdom ON EARTH? AN ACTUAL REAL KINGDOM? The verse below is just meant spiritually not literally?

He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever . . ." Isaiah 9:7

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