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not to mention what EG added....grasping at straws....I suggest the straw dispenser at Mc. Donalds!
The 144,000 is literal. It literally lists the tribes.
Th "not defiled by women" thing.
That means these 144,000 have never worshiped the Creator in a false manner.
Revelation 17:5-6, "And upon her head was a name written: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahshua."
The great mother of harlots of Revelation 17 could defile one so they could not be of the 144,00.
I have to add multitudes of others that are not of 144,00 will enter the kingdom of Yahweh
Revelation 7:9-10, "After this I looked, and behold, a greatmultitude, which no man could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and with palm branchesin their hands; And crying with a loud voice, saying: Salvation to our Father Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!"
Th "not defiled by women" thing.
That means these 144,000 have never worshiped the Creator in a false manner.
Revelation 17:5-6, "And upon her head was a name written: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahshua."
The great mother of harlots of Revelation 17 could defile one so they could not be of the 144,00.
I have to add multitudes of others that are not of 144,00 will enter the kingdom of Yahweh
Revelation 7:9-10, "After this I looked, and behold, a greatmultitude, which no man could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and with palm branchesin their hands; And crying with a loud voice, saying: Salvation to our Father Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!"
For sure it is the beares of the seals = physical jews who will be converted in christianity be Enoch and Elias. It is the remnant of Israel, for all of them are to be born in jewish (=judaic) families, though physically it is hard to imagine they all could be off-spring of all the tribes including the lost ten.
In time of the two witnesses the church will be quit jewish, but purely christian (= for each of them Jesus Christ will be true Mossiah).
The most of them will be martyrs (be murdered) as well as their Chief - Elias prophet.
They will be able fly physically (being able to turn own body into an eagle - like Elias) as predict the revelation (about two wings of big eagle).
And they are selected elite Guard of Jesus.
So we (christians) should love them as brothers
In time of the two witnesses the church will be quit jewish, but purely christian (= for each of them Jesus Christ will be true Mossiah).
The most of them will be martyrs (be murdered) as well as their Chief - Elias prophet.
They will be able fly physically (being able to turn own body into an eagle - like Elias) as predict the revelation (about two wings of big eagle).
And they are selected elite Guard of Jesus.
So we (christians) should love them as brothers
"Are the 144,000 actually 144,000 physical Jews because genetically speaking, this seems like an impossibility seeing that there would need to be 12,000 from each tribe, I am just struggling with Spiritual/physical Jews, because there is obvious importance in understanding the distinctions"
These will be and do exactly as Revelation records
They are the first of the believing remnant of Israel during the coming tribulation period ... same as the time of Jacob's trouble
They will be mortals and sealed for protection against the wiles of the tribulation
They will spread the gospel of the coming of the Lord's millennial kingdom upon the earth [Matthew 24:14]
They are described as "virgins" because they will not be lead off by women into the worship of pagan "gods" like their ancestry .... like Solomon for example .... so they will be spiritually clean and will follow their true Messiah and King
The Lord will lead them during their witness first to Israel and then to the nations .... 144000 apostles
.... and even though you might think that a selection of 12000 from each tribe would be impossible to muster to exactness, consider who knows and makes the selection .... the One for which there is nothing impossible to do
These will be and do exactly as Revelation records
They are the first of the believing remnant of Israel during the coming tribulation period ... same as the time of Jacob's trouble
They will be mortals and sealed for protection against the wiles of the tribulation
They will spread the gospel of the coming of the Lord's millennial kingdom upon the earth [Matthew 24:14]
They are described as "virgins" because they will not be lead off by women into the worship of pagan "gods" like their ancestry .... like Solomon for example .... so they will be spiritually clean and will follow their true Messiah and King
The Lord will lead them during their witness first to Israel and then to the nations .... 144000 apostles
.... and even though you might think that a selection of 12000 from each tribe would be impossible to muster to exactness, consider who knows and makes the selection .... the One for which there is nothing impossible to do
J
Question: "What is the Great Tribulation?"
Answer: The Tribulation is a future time period when the Lord will accomplish at least two aspects of His plan: 1) He will complete His discipline of the nation Israel (Daniel 9:24), and 2) He will judge the unbelieving, godless inhabitants of the earth (Revelation 6 - 18). The length of the Tribulation is seven years. This is determined by an understanding of the seventy weeks of Daniel (Daniel 9:24-27; also see the article on the Tribulation). The Great Tribulation is the last half of the Tribulation period, three and one-half years in length. It is distinguished from the Tribulation period because the Beast, or Antichrist, will be revealed, and the wrath of God will greatly intensify during this time. Thus, it is important at this point to emphasize that the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation are not synonymous terms. Within eschatology (the study of future things), the Tribulation refers to the full seven-year period while the “Great Tribulation” refers to the second half of the Tribulation.
It is Christ Himself who used the phrase "Great Tribulation" with reference to the last half of the Tribulation. In Matthew 24:21, Jesus says, "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall." In this verse Jesus is referring to the event of Matthew 24:15, which describes the revealing of the abomination of desolation, the man also known as the Antichrist. Also, Jesus in Matthew 24:29-30 states, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days . . . the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory." In this passage, Jesus defines the Great Tribulation (v.21) as beginning with the revealing of the abomination of desolation (v.15) and ending with Christ's second coming (v.30).
Other passages that refer to the Great Tribulation are Daniel 12:1b, which says, "And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time." It seems that Jesus was quoting this verse when He spoke the words recorded in Matthew 24:21. Also referring to the Great Tribulation is Jeremiah 30:7, "Alas! for that day is great, There is none like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it." The phrase “Jacob’s distress” refers to the nation of Israel, which will experience persecution and natural disasters such as have never before been seen.
Considering the information Christ gave us in Matthew 24:15-30, it is easy to conclude that the beginning of the Great Tribulation has much to do with the abomination of desolation, an action of the Antichrist. In Daniel 9:26-27, we find that this man will make a "covenant" (a peace pact) with the world for seven years (one “week”; again, see the article on the Tribulation). Halfway through the seven-year period—"in the middle of the week"—we are told this man will break the covenant he made, stopping sacrifice and grain offering, which specifically refers to his actions in the rebuilt temple of the future. Revelation 13:1-10 gives even more detail concerning the Beast's actions, and just as important, it also verifies the length of time he will be in power. Revelation 13:5 says he will be in power for 42 months, which is three and one-half years, the length of the Great Tribulation.
Revelation offers us the most information about the Great Tribulation. From Revelation 13 when the Beast is revealed until Christ returns in Revelation 19, we are given a picture of God's wrath on the earth because of unbelief and rebellion (Revelation 16-18). It is also a picture of how God disciplines and at the same time protects His people Israel (Revelation 14:1-5) until He keeps His promise to Israel by establishing an earthly kingdom (Revelation 20:4-6).
Recommended Resources: Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware and Logos Bible Software.
Read more: What is the Great Tribulation?
Answer: The Tribulation is a future time period when the Lord will accomplish at least two aspects of His plan: 1) He will complete His discipline of the nation Israel (Daniel 9:24), and 2) He will judge the unbelieving, godless inhabitants of the earth (Revelation 6 - 18). The length of the Tribulation is seven years. This is determined by an understanding of the seventy weeks of Daniel (Daniel 9:24-27; also see the article on the Tribulation). The Great Tribulation is the last half of the Tribulation period, three and one-half years in length. It is distinguished from the Tribulation period because the Beast, or Antichrist, will be revealed, and the wrath of God will greatly intensify during this time. Thus, it is important at this point to emphasize that the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation are not synonymous terms. Within eschatology (the study of future things), the Tribulation refers to the full seven-year period while the “Great Tribulation” refers to the second half of the Tribulation.
It is Christ Himself who used the phrase "Great Tribulation" with reference to the last half of the Tribulation. In Matthew 24:21, Jesus says, "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall." In this verse Jesus is referring to the event of Matthew 24:15, which describes the revealing of the abomination of desolation, the man also known as the Antichrist. Also, Jesus in Matthew 24:29-30 states, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days . . . the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory." In this passage, Jesus defines the Great Tribulation (v.21) as beginning with the revealing of the abomination of desolation (v.15) and ending with Christ's second coming (v.30).
Other passages that refer to the Great Tribulation are Daniel 12:1b, which says, "And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time." It seems that Jesus was quoting this verse when He spoke the words recorded in Matthew 24:21. Also referring to the Great Tribulation is Jeremiah 30:7, "Alas! for that day is great, There is none like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it." The phrase “Jacob’s distress” refers to the nation of Israel, which will experience persecution and natural disasters such as have never before been seen.
Considering the information Christ gave us in Matthew 24:15-30, it is easy to conclude that the beginning of the Great Tribulation has much to do with the abomination of desolation, an action of the Antichrist. In Daniel 9:26-27, we find that this man will make a "covenant" (a peace pact) with the world for seven years (one “week”; again, see the article on the Tribulation). Halfway through the seven-year period—"in the middle of the week"—we are told this man will break the covenant he made, stopping sacrifice and grain offering, which specifically refers to his actions in the rebuilt temple of the future. Revelation 13:1-10 gives even more detail concerning the Beast's actions, and just as important, it also verifies the length of time he will be in power. Revelation 13:5 says he will be in power for 42 months, which is three and one-half years, the length of the Great Tribulation.
Revelation offers us the most information about the Great Tribulation. From Revelation 13 when the Beast is revealed until Christ returns in Revelation 19, we are given a picture of God's wrath on the earth because of unbelief and rebellion (Revelation 16-18). It is also a picture of how God disciplines and at the same time protects His people Israel (Revelation 14:1-5) until He keeps His promise to Israel by establishing an earthly kingdom (Revelation 20:4-6).
Recommended Resources: Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware and Logos Bible Software.
Read more: What is the Great Tribulation?
But still you have a condition here...SEE The IF! They never repented as a nation, they never will. God is concerned about individual salvation, globally, not a single nation. The only way a Jew can be saved is through Jesus Christ...Jesus said I'm the way the to the Father, no one can come to God but through me. Paul demonstrates this perfectly as a cultivated olive tree in Romans. God's nation is found in Christ, Peter brings this out calling us a holy nation and priests. God's purpose with physical Israel is finished...Paul (or the author of Hewbrews) eludes to this, Hebrews 8:
New American Standard Bible
When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.
We should not be trying to resurrect the old, there is no purpose in it. The church was God's plan all along, to reconcile people to the Father! Physical Israel is not some failed plan of God in which had to introduce a temporary "church"age, and then go back again to physical Israel (a single nation economy of God).
New American Standard Bible
When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.
We should not be trying to resurrect the old, there is no purpose in it. The church was God's plan all along, to reconcile people to the Father! Physical Israel is not some failed plan of God in which had to introduce a temporary "church"age, and then go back again to physical Israel (a single nation economy of God).
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Who says? Are you god? wow, that is a bold statement, I am dumbfounded
Scripture says they will. I think I will trust what Gods word says, And leave it at that
Gods plan has always been about personal salvation, since Adam first sin, You act like it was something new which just started with Christ on the cross.
God mae promises to a nation. He will keep those promises, or he is not God, he is a liar. plain and simple.