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Beautiful! They don't dare to attack the Quaran the way they attack our Book and the first part of that Book belongs to the Jews as well ... so this/these cowards attack those who don't fear and have no reason to fear retaliation from.
Cowards hide behind Media buildings, more than anywhere else. Except for those killed, kidnapped or infected with diseases on the front line.
Cowards.
Beautiful! They don't dare to attack the Quaran the way they attack our Book and the first part of that Book belongs to the Jews as well ... so this/these cowards attack those who don't fear and have no reason to fear retaliation from.
Cowards hide behind Media buildings, more than anywhere else. Except for those killed, kidnapped or infected with diseases on the front line.
Cowards.
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The way i see it is this..its God they will stand before in the end. If being Christian becomes "illegal" then i guess i will end up in jail if it happens in my lifetime. They can all say what they want but i will not and can not stop spreading the Gospel of Christ. I guess i will be following in Pauls footsteps 
to be fair, even as a christian my opinion of evangelicals is the same.
Also they kind of have a point here: Newsweek’s exploration here of the Bible’s history and meaning is not intended to advance a particular theology or debate the existence of God. Rather, it is designed to shine a light on a book that has been abused by people who claim to revere it but don’t read it, in the process creating misery for others. When the illiteracy of self-proclaimed Biblical literalists leads parents to banish children from their homes, when it sets neighbor against neighbor, when it engenders hate and condemnation, when it impedes science and undermines intellectual advancement, the topic has become too important for Americans to ignore, whether they are deeply devout or tepidly faithful, believers or atheists.
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I FEEL THAT one thing persecution will do is separate the real from the fake as far as Christians go. We will find that the proud or the ones who tend to put themselves on a pedestal made by pride will either get real or deny Christ. I pray they get real as they know the truth by word but it is only by the Spirit of God that the true word of God can be manifested on a personal level. It is not by might nor by power nor by any words off a printed page alone but by My Spirit saith the Lord. Th eword of God is a living thing and cannot be understood by the wisdom of this world.
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Folks,
Ecclesiastes 1.9-
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Some of you should take a breath, regroup and rethink and then not be moved. If you are moved by this[even to use apologetic s to reply], then you have not been paying attention for very long.
This guy is only stating what text books have been teaching people about evolution for decades and decades. Evolution at its core is simply removing Adam and Eve from the equation, because if you remove Adam and Eve, then there was no fall and no sin and if there was no fall or no sin, there is no need for a Savior and no Jesus Christ.
This guy is only stating what natural and archaeological science has been saying for decades and decades
This guy is only stating what liberal theologians and theistic evolutionist have been saying in pulpits in certain denominations for decades and decades.
This guy is only stating what the secular humanist and atheists have stated for decades.
Their idea of moral relativism and removal of creation mean thousands of kids and teens are now gender confused, because if there is no creation and only evolution, then becoming a lesbian is just a matter of evolution and nobody will tellme its right or wrong, because their definition of right or wrong is built upon the foundation, that my morals cannot cause damage to another moral's or I am not tolerant.
this guy is only stating what the LGBT agenda has been doing for decades?
should it be any shock and awe to you that it is expressed main stream like this now? Evil is going to manifest in these last days that will make many abandon their faith.
there is no new thing under the sun......
The wake up call is evident now what are you going to do?!?!!?
Writet back witty little apologetic essays that show you are moved by another lack of facts?
Or are you going to act by letting the world see your love and that you are the light of the world and let them see the Spirit of the Lord is upon you and he has anointed you to preach the gospel to the poor, heal the brokenhearted, preach deliverance to the captives , recover sight to the blind, set at liberty to those who are bound, to destroy yokes, lift burdens, change lives, to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.
Cry aloud and spare not sons and daughters of God, it's time to take back what the enemy has stolen, all of creation is waiting for you to manifest yourself. You are a carrier of hope, salvation, reconciliation and anointing to a lost and dying world....
its time.....
Ecclesiastes 1.9-
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Some of you should take a breath, regroup and rethink and then not be moved. If you are moved by this[even to use apologetic s to reply], then you have not been paying attention for very long.
This guy is only stating what text books have been teaching people about evolution for decades and decades. Evolution at its core is simply removing Adam and Eve from the equation, because if you remove Adam and Eve, then there was no fall and no sin and if there was no fall or no sin, there is no need for a Savior and no Jesus Christ.
This guy is only stating what natural and archaeological science has been saying for decades and decades
This guy is only stating what liberal theologians and theistic evolutionist have been saying in pulpits in certain denominations for decades and decades.
This guy is only stating what the secular humanist and atheists have stated for decades.
Their idea of moral relativism and removal of creation mean thousands of kids and teens are now gender confused, because if there is no creation and only evolution, then becoming a lesbian is just a matter of evolution and nobody will tellme its right or wrong, because their definition of right or wrong is built upon the foundation, that my morals cannot cause damage to another moral's or I am not tolerant.
this guy is only stating what the LGBT agenda has been doing for decades?
should it be any shock and awe to you that it is expressed main stream like this now? Evil is going to manifest in these last days that will make many abandon their faith.
there is no new thing under the sun......
The wake up call is evident now what are you going to do?!?!!?
Writet back witty little apologetic essays that show you are moved by another lack of facts?
Or are you going to act by letting the world see your love and that you are the light of the world and let them see the Spirit of the Lord is upon you and he has anointed you to preach the gospel to the poor, heal the brokenhearted, preach deliverance to the captives , recover sight to the blind, set at liberty to those who are bound, to destroy yokes, lift burdens, change lives, to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.
Cry aloud and spare not sons and daughters of God, it's time to take back what the enemy has stolen, all of creation is waiting for you to manifest yourself. You are a carrier of hope, salvation, reconciliation and anointing to a lost and dying world....
its time.....
C
Truly, I could care less what anyone says about me or even if they see the faults in Christianity today -- but When they attack The Word of God, the Words of The Word of God made flesh and hide behind a big building feeling smug about attacking God in the flesh .......... That's worth dying for to defend & stand by and I do believe we need to know this - WHO is worth dying for. Already the News and others are turning a blind eye at the persecution in India and the U.S. has always turned a blind eye to China's persecution of Christians and everywhere else in this world.
It won't be us killing anyone. I myself hate the death I see everyday in the news, murder, killing and am sick of reading about people killing each other but I know from all that I've read -- that we must draw a line in the sand when it comes to Him and Who He is and be willing to die rather than deny Him or His Words.
To go through as much as they did to mock The Word with fancy eye-appeal graphics and all -- this is really important to them and it's only the beginning.
I still say that these are cowards hiding behind everything that they can hide behind ... like bullies or snipers, shooting from a roof ... attacking those that they know won't physically be a threat to them.
If I find one of these issues - I would boycott every advertiser in there - but that's about all I can do physically.
By attacking His Word though - they're attacking Him. That is the reason for the season, when it comes. When it comes to where we may be threatened or suffer loss or whatever persecution may come to us physically - that has to be our reason to be willing to go with it - to not resist persecution in the flesh and not recant and resolve now while we can understand what we're doing and what we're not going to do as in 'resistance', no martyr in either Testaments ever resisted when it was time for martyrdom and many Christian Non-Resistants, like the Anabaptists died without resisting as well, in order to never deny nor contradict in any way The Word of God made flesh & written.
We actually do have to draw that line in the sand now before any such possibilities of persecution or arrest for beliefs ever comes. Too many on the radio and elsewhere talking up people to arm themselves and prepare for 'resistance' and I'm very sorry to tell them that that is not Scriptural. Christian NonResistance is but it takes time to become of that mind ... best to think it through now while we're free to have a mind and draw that line in the sand now while we can still reason from The Word.
It's easier said then done, when we can't even stop our anger toward each other or family and humans can't think straight when they're angry.
Lots to think about, if you're going to think about persecution or martyrdom but well worth the time spent. God bless!
It won't be us killing anyone. I myself hate the death I see everyday in the news, murder, killing and am sick of reading about people killing each other but I know from all that I've read -- that we must draw a line in the sand when it comes to Him and Who He is and be willing to die rather than deny Him or His Words.
To go through as much as they did to mock The Word with fancy eye-appeal graphics and all -- this is really important to them and it's only the beginning.
I still say that these are cowards hiding behind everything that they can hide behind ... like bullies or snipers, shooting from a roof ... attacking those that they know won't physically be a threat to them.
If I find one of these issues - I would boycott every advertiser in there - but that's about all I can do physically.
By attacking His Word though - they're attacking Him. That is the reason for the season, when it comes. When it comes to where we may be threatened or suffer loss or whatever persecution may come to us physically - that has to be our reason to be willing to go with it - to not resist persecution in the flesh and not recant and resolve now while we can understand what we're doing and what we're not going to do as in 'resistance', no martyr in either Testaments ever resisted when it was time for martyrdom and many Christian Non-Resistants, like the Anabaptists died without resisting as well, in order to never deny nor contradict in any way The Word of God made flesh & written.
We actually do have to draw that line in the sand now before any such possibilities of persecution or arrest for beliefs ever comes. Too many on the radio and elsewhere talking up people to arm themselves and prepare for 'resistance' and I'm very sorry to tell them that that is not Scriptural. Christian NonResistance is but it takes time to become of that mind ... best to think it through now while we're free to have a mind and draw that line in the sand now while we can still reason from The Word.
It's easier said then done, when we can't even stop our anger toward each other or family and humans can't think straight when they're angry.
Lots to think about, if you're going to think about persecution or martyrdom but well worth the time spent. God bless!
I'm going to rejoice brother.
He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns.
I agree with you, "there is/was nothing new"....
...up until recently?
Even you have to admit, there is something seriously different about this sort of "new" hatred towards Christians?
He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns.
I agree with you, "there is/was nothing new"....
...up until recently?
Even you have to admit, there is something seriously different about this sort of "new" hatred towards Christians?
As I type......huge parts of the middle east and other parts of the world, suffers greatly for their belief in Christ.
I'm guessing they would disagree with you?
I never said I was going through this type of persecution, nor anyone who can get on CC,
what I actually said was :
"He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns."
"it" ---being the world's situation as a whole. How Christians are looked at, how some will be treated and put to death for following Christ. The overall apostasy, mans hatred for what is good and doing good.
I'm so confused to why it is that everyone is under the impression that we will all have to die a martyrs death for the world to be in "true persecution mode"?
We are indeed in the new "new" type of hatred and the very last of the persecutions.
The overall times we live in brother.....the overall times.
I'm guessing they would disagree with you?
I never said I was going through this type of persecution, nor anyone who can get on CC,
what I actually said was :
"He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns."
"it" ---being the world's situation as a whole. How Christians are looked at, how some will be treated and put to death for following Christ. The overall apostasy, mans hatred for what is good and doing good.
I'm so confused to why it is that everyone is under the impression that we will all have to die a martyrs death for the world to be in "true persecution mode"?
We are indeed in the new "new" type of hatred and the very last of the persecutions.
The overall times we live in brother.....the overall times.
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i just sit and ponder what god will do next, wasn't cs lewis anti christian for many years, and how many did he influence on his conversion. God works in mysterious ways. maybe defending our faith against these attacks gives us an opportunity to preach the gospel to those that wouldn't otherwise have the time or inclination to hear it..
blessings
God is in control
psalm 2:4
The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.
blessings
God is in control
psalm 2:4
The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.
"Evangelical Christians have long believed the Bible is inspired, infallible and inerrant—that it originated from God, is incapable of failing and is without error. However, today we are witnessing a departure from this historic view. Some evangelical professors are attempting to redefine inerrancy while entire evangelical denominations have recently rejected it."
“I affirm that the Bible alone, and in its entirety, is the infallible written Word of God in the original text and is, therefore, inerrant in all that it affirms or denies on whatever topic it addresses.”
defendinginerrancy.com
(Thank you brother crossnote for the aforementioned link)
“I affirm that the Bible alone, and in its entirety, is the infallible written Word of God in the original text and is, therefore, inerrant in all that it affirms or denies on whatever topic it addresses.”
defendinginerrancy.com
(Thank you brother crossnote for the aforementioned link)
Being honest with you, I've never walked by a Muslim in the street who took it upon himself to tell me I was going to hell. Nor have I ever walked through a street rally spearheaded by some bullish Muslim pointing out people in the crowd he thought looked camp enough to be visiting the fiery inferno for their entire eternity, but I can't say the same for Christian ministers. I've never gone into a mosque and heard people continually spin-off a lot of religious buzzwords that mean absolutely nothing, and nor have I seen on the street your everyday Muslim crying 'convert or burn'. Not once have I heard any Muslim acquantances of mine saying gay people should be second class citizens, but my mother's church-owning colleage continually likes to portray her disgust for anything remotely homo. I've never listened to a Muslim rant on about how six-day creationism is absolutely correct and all science is to be vilified and opposed, nor have I come across any Muslim people in my country who take it upon themselves to start ministries that deliberately distort science and advocate creationism for public school science classes.
Christianity in the West, I'm sorry to say, has in the last few years become synonymous with ignorance, in the same way Islam in the Middle East has become synonymous with it. I live in a Western country with quite a few Muslims and I've never known one personally who holds radical views, yet it's always the Christians that seem to be getting themselves out there on the street or in the schools where I live and encoraching where they aren't welcome.
I'm certain if I went to Taliban-ruled parts of Iraq I'd face ignorance far more dangerous than what I face in the UK, but in the UK, I generally find Muslims to be much more approachable, much less condescending and altogether leagues more intelligent than their Christian counterparts. That goes twice as much for Hindus. I don't think I've EVER seen a Hindu preaching condemnation or ignorance or bigotry, ever.
Christianity in the West, I'm sorry to say, has in the last few years become synonymous with ignorance, in the same way Islam in the Middle East has become synonymous with it. I live in a Western country with quite a few Muslims and I've never known one personally who holds radical views, yet it's always the Christians that seem to be getting themselves out there on the street or in the schools where I live and encoraching where they aren't welcome.
I'm certain if I went to Taliban-ruled parts of Iraq I'd face ignorance far more dangerous than what I face in the UK, but in the UK, I generally find Muslims to be much more approachable, much less condescending and altogether leagues more intelligent than their Christian counterparts. That goes twice as much for Hindus. I don't think I've EVER seen a Hindu preaching condemnation or ignorance or bigotry, ever.
You call it persecution, like it's really detrimental, like you're being horrendously victimized, as though people disagreeing with Christian encroachment on their privacy and dignity is going to lead to some horrible violence towards you and other Christian folk, and in the same vein you'll infer that inciting opposition to and actively promoting discrimination against homosexual people is your religious calling and part of your right to freedom of religion.
That's a worrying double standard there. I mean, I really don't see anybody currently nor in the foreseeable future saying ''Christianity is an abomination, it should be outlawed''. So my opinion of what you've said is succinctly ''wake up and smell the coffee''. You're in a far better position than you think.
That's a worrying double standard there. I mean, I really don't see anybody currently nor in the foreseeable future saying ''Christianity is an abomination, it should be outlawed''. So my opinion of what you've said is succinctly ''wake up and smell the coffee''. You're in a far better position than you think.
T
I'm going to rejoice brother.
He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns.
I agree with you, "there is/was nothing new"....
...up until recently?
Even you have to admit, there is something seriously different about this sort of "new" hatred towards Christians?
He said (and warned) us that it would be EXACTLY like this right before He returns.
I agree with you, "there is/was nothing new"....
...up until recently?
Even you have to admit, there is something seriously different about this sort of "new" hatred towards Christians?
The enemy works in deception so most of the hate this guy was spewing has been held in reserve, but the contempt/hate has been there all along. This bubbling up is just the beginning and in all honesty the church is to blame.
Jesus asked us all of us to do something in John 13.34-35
[SUP]34 [/SUP]A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
And some of you are shocked and in awe that a guy wrote a hit piece on the Bible and "Christians"
The elephant in the room in the body today and that nobody wants to talk about is this. The world go into the church looking for love, deliverance and what makes us tick and see nothing different in us than what they are going through or sadly even worse, they see things that would even be against their own humanist morals.
WHY?
Because we cannot love each other as Christ loved us.
Check the mirror and you will see why this guy wrote this trash. The world should not becoming to us, we should be going to the world, and they should know we are his disciples by the love for each other and them. They should see in deed and speech we are not of this world.
When they are stressed out by the world's chaos, they should be calmed by our order
When they are consumed by the darkness in the world, they see should our light.
When they are bound by fear, they should see our freedom from fear
When they are turned inside out by confusion, uncertainty and doubt they should feel our peace, see our steadfastness, and touch our assurance and quietness.
When they are rejected, they should see our unity.
When they are hungry for something different they should eat of our fruit of the spirit
When the mourn, we should mourn with them.
Butr we cant becaue we cannot show these things to each other.
I am just as guilty as anyone, so no I do not see anything different about this level of hate.
But I do know what will change it and that is the LOVE of God!
I promote biblical Christianity. I smear unbiblical churchianity. I pay for it. A few others r on board. Way to many cannot see scripture on it. Maybe another thread dealing with why some of our brothers and sisters recoil at Pauls words dealing with the first century assembly. Something is in play. Must be a reason.