Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?

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eternally-gratefull

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Mecca is there too..






List of countries by oil production



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[TD]84,951,200[/TD]
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Russia[/TD]
[TD]10,580,000[/TD]
[TD]14.05%[/TD]
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Saudi Arabia[/TD]
[TD]9,693,200[/TD]
[TD]13.09%[/TD]
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United States[/TD]
[TD]7,441,200[/TD]
[TD]12.23%[/TD]
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satan>Jerusalem>Rome>Mecca>bankers in London>bankers in NY>continually>down>the>line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Revelation 13:7
"Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation,"
rev 13 is the final world empire. also called rome.

or did you forget that?
 

Hizikyah

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5 And upon her head was a namewritten: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

It all started with satan, then sin then ..., then..., then 70 hebrew men who rejected Moses and started what came to be known as "kabbalisim"...


Way too deep for most here... not intending to be rude just saying.

 
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kennethcadwell

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Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Yes the old Revelation 13:7 where it says the antichrist will overcome and defeat the saints, as he will for a time times and half a times be able to kill off all those who are called in His name. Ushering in the return of the Lord, and when the Lord returns Jerusalem still is standing and is where He will rule from for His 1,000 years millennial reign. Not destroyed !!!
 
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kennethcadwell

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No. the middle east is getting rich.

Mecca is not babylon. it looks nothing like paganism.

read the OT things of Babylon, greece, rome, Baal worship etc etc.

that is the harlot and the harlot will look like her.


Islam has no power. they do not even have an army, all they have is a few poor kids who think they will get many virgivns if they kill people by killing themselves.

Just watch the video.....................
 

Hizikyah

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rev 13 is the final world empire. also called rome.

or did you forget that?
To forget yo have to know...

I know and did not forget brother:

look at this post please

#3

“The arguments...are firmly grounded on the word of God, and having been closely studied with the Bible in hand, leave no escape for the conscientious Protestant except the abandonment of Sunday worship and the return to Saturday, commanded by their teacher, the Bible, or, unwilling to abandon the tradition of the Catholic Church, which enjoins the keeping of Sunday, and which they have accepted in direct opposition to their teacher, the Bible, consistently accept her (the Catholic Church) in all her teachings. Reason and common sense demand the acceptance of one or the other of these alternatives: either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday, or Catholicism and the keeping holy of Sunday. Compromise is impossible.” James Cardinal Gibbons, in Catholic Mirror, December 23, 1893.

And if you don't believe the Catholic Churchis is the beast spoken of in Daniyl and Revelation:

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."

Clearly changed the Sabbath and more

Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."

Daniyl 7:19-21, "Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his claws of bronze; which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were on his
head, and of the other horn which came up, before gwhom three fell--the horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spoke very great things, whose look was more stout; more mighty and imposing, than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them."

Foxe's Book of Martyrs historically records the Romans killing 11 of the 12 apostles, including Kepha (Peter), and beheading Shaul (Paul). It is estimated to have killed 50million to 1 billion all toghther, now you know where they got all those skulls for the catacombs.

Revelation 13:5-6, "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to wmake war for forty-two moons; months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven."

Pope says not to use the Name of Yaweh: Vatican Says No 'Yahweh' In Songs, Prayers At Catholic Masses - Music & Dance - Entertainment - Catholic Online

Revelation 17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

purple and scarlet color


a golden cup in her hand


Revelation 17:6, "And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahshua."

Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits."



Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the asnumber of a man. And his number is 666."


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kennethcadwell

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No. the middle east is getting rich.

Mecca is not babylon. it looks nothing like paganism.

read the OT things of Babylon, greece, rome, Baal worship etc etc.

that is the harlot and the harlot will look like her.


Islam has no power. they do not even have an army, all they have is a few poor kids who think they will get many virgivns if they kill people by killing themselves.


Are you so sure of that ????
Because the Islamic radiclist come from the Muslim religion, and guess what they are only one of two factions in the world today that can fend a 200 million man army. The other is China, and guess what is listed in Revelation 9;

Revelation 9:16
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Yes the old Revelation 13:7 where it says the antichrist will overcome and defeat the saints, as he will for a time times and half a times be able to kill off all those who are called in His name. Ushering in the return of the Lord, and when the Lord returns Jerusalem still is standing and is where He will rule from for His 1,000 years millennial reign. Not destroyed !!!

taken from my paper on daniels 4 beasts.


According to the daniel 7 we are told this about the reformed empire;
1. 10 horns are ten kings, which will arise out of the original beast
2. another will arise (the little horn)
3. he will subdue three of the kings and these kingdoms will be added to his kingdom (leaving 7 kingdoms)
4. shall speak blasphemies against the most high God
5. change times and laws
6. Shall gain control of the whole earth
7. saints are given to him, and he will persecute them for times time and half a time (3 1/2 years)
8. slain at the end by Christ and sent to burning flame
9. Kingdom given to the Christ, and all men and nations and languages shall serve him.

Who is this Little horn? Do we see him again spoken of in prophesy?

Beast of revelation, given to John .

Ch 13:
1. Had characteristics of all of daniels beasts (leopard, bear and Lion) and is itself the 4th beast
2. Given power by satan himself (son of perdition)
3. Was mortally wounded (lost his power) but was restored to life (Rome died, and even though many have tried to revive it, No one has succeeded, Satan will revive this power)
4. Spoke pompous words (blasphemies)
5. Given power for 42 months (3 ½ years)
6. Given power to persecute the saints of God
7. Power is greater than any previous empire. As it is worldwide in scope (every tribe, language and nation were given to his hand) how many more ways can God say worldwide, every human alive at this time will be under his power.

Ch 17:
1. Was (had power) is not (lost power) will ascend out of the abyss (powered by Satan himself) will be destroyed (perdition)
2. 7 kings, 5 have fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, media-persia, Greece. One is (rome) and one is yet to come (Rome 2 or iron and clay)
3. He will continue a short time
4. 10 kingdom nation (splintered, they will give power to the beast, but will not be unified.
5. Will make war with God himself (the saints) but will be destroyed by the lamb

Rev 19
1. Beast and worlds armies gather together to make war with the lamb
2. Christ defeats beast and worlds armies (so many bodies are left in this battle that birds feast on them for months)
3. Beast is captured, and thrown to the fire



 
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kennethcadwell

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rev 13 is the final world empire. also called rome.

or did you forget that?

Yes but the 10 nations that make up the revised holy Roman empire follow the antichrist to destroy Babylon, so they can not be one and the same......
 
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eternally-gratefull

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To forget yo have to know...

I know and did not forget brother:

look at this post please

#3
Roman catholicism is not the 4th beast. the 4th beast will be reformed rome. who will be ruled by a ruler who comes out of ten..

Roman catholicism is the harlot. She resembles babylon in almost every way, she even has babylons high priest (pontifus maximus)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Are you so sure of that ????
Because the Islamic radiclist come from the Muslim religion, and guess what they are only one of two factions in the world today that can fend a 200 million man army. The other is China, and guess what is listed in Revelation 9;

Revelation 9:16
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
lol. they could not fend off the US army of only and you think they can fend of a 200 million man army?

get real ken, now your sounding bad. if the US, Europe and its allyes would send everything they had into the middle east, and not fight a poor mans war like we have been doing (worry about civilian causualties) Islam would be eradicated.

Who can fend of a 200 million man army?

if the powers of europe would combine under one king, they would have the greatest and largest army on earth, even surpassing China.

there is your future rome, and future 4th beast.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yes but the 10 nations that make up the revised holy Roman empire follow the antichrist to destroy Babylon, so they can not be one and the same......
I did not say they were.

The vatican and rome is not the same, in fact this roman beast would have to destroy the vatican, because the vatican has such great power all over the world. and would be a great hinderance of him.

the vatican may be pagan because of her blindness. But she would never follow some world leader who enters the jewish temple and declares himself to be the christ.

the vatican has been around for a few thousand years. People have tried to destroy her, but no one has been able to. The final gentile beast will.
 
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kennethcadwell

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taken from my paper on daniels 4 beasts.


According to the daniel 7 we are told this about the reformed empire;
1. 10 horns are ten kings, which will arise out of the original beast
2. another will arise (the little horn)
3. he will subdue three of the kings and these kingdoms will be added to his kingdom (leaving 7 kingdoms)
4. shall speak blasphemies against the most high God
5. change times and laws
6. Shall gain control of the whole earth
7. saints are given to him, and he will persecute them for times time and half a time (3 1/2 years)
8. slain at the end by Christ and sent to burning flame
9. Kingdom given to the Christ, and all men and nations and languages shall serve him.

Who is this Little horn? Do we see him again spoken of in prophesy?

Beast of revelation, given to John .

Ch 13:
1. Had characteristics of all of daniels beasts (leopard, bear and Lion) and is itself the 4th beast
2. Given power by satan himself (son of perdition)
3. Was mortally wounded (lost his power) but was restored to life (Rome died, and even though many have tried to revive it, No one has succeeded, Satan will revive this power)
4. Spoke pompous words (blasphemies)
5. Given power for 42 months (3 ½ years)
6. Given power to persecute the saints of God
7. Power is greater than any previous empire. As it is worldwide in scope (every tribe, language and nation were given to his hand) how many more ways can God say worldwide, every human alive at this time will be under his power.

Ch 17:
1. Was (had power) is not (lost power) will ascend out of the abyss (powered by Satan himself) will be destroyed (perdition)
2. 7 kings, 5 have fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, media-persia, Greece. One is (rome) and one is yet to come (Rome 2 or iron and clay)
3. He will continue a short time
4. 10 kingdom nation (splintered, they will give power to the beast, but will not be unified.
5. Will make war with God himself (the saints) but will be destroyed by the lamb

Rev 19
1. Beast and worlds armies gather together to make war with the lamb
2. Christ defeats beast and worlds armies (so many bodies are left in this battle that birds feast on them for months)
3. Beast is captured, and thrown to the fire




Yes I know this, as the revised holy Roman empire is starting to rise within the EU that we see today. Eventually one man will come to power over all of this ( the antichrist ) and the false prophet ( Catholic pope ) will follow him. As the Roman empire has always had one political leader and one religious leader. They will take these 10 kingdoms of the revised holy Roman empire and lead them to destroy Babylon ( Saudi Arabia ). Then they go up against and kill the saints in Jerusalem and anybody else who walks in the name of the Lord who will not confirm to their one world theology system. Ushering in the return of the Lord.
 

Hizikyah

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Roman catholicism is not the 4th beast. the 4th beast will be reformed rome. who will be ruled by a ruler who comes out of ten..

Roman catholicism is the harlot. She resembles babylon in almost every way, she even has babylons high priest (pontifus maximus)
I agree in a general sense, not getting onto details...
Rome "changed" the Sabbath

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."

Im saying it is bigger and more expansive than can be seen with the eyes...
 
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kennethcadwell

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I did not say they were.

The vatican and rome is not the same, in fact this roman beast would have to destroy the vatican, because the vatican has such great power all over the world. and would be a great hinderance of him.

the vatican may be pagan because of her blindness. But she would never follow some world leader who enters the jewish temple and declares himself to be the christ.

the vatican has been around for a few thousand years. People have tried to destroy her, but no one has been able to. The final gentile beast will.

Nobody is getting rich off the vatican, as the vatican itself is rich already and the keep all religious artifacts to themselves.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Nobody is getting rich off the vatican, as the vatican itself is rich already and the keep all religious artifacts to themselves.
lol..

you really think that? Alot of people are getting rich of the vatican.
 
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kennethcadwell

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lol. they could not fend off the US army of only and you think they can fend of a 200 million man army?

get real ken, now your sounding bad. if the US, Europe and its allyes would send everything they had into the middle east, and not fight a poor mans war like we have been doing (worry about civilian causualties) Islam would be eradicated.

Who can fend of a 200 million man army?

if the powers of europe would combine under one king, they would have the greatest and largest army on earth, even surpassing China.

there is your future rome, and future 4th beast.

The problem with that with Europe is they would have to band together, and also Europe is in the wrong direction from where the army comes from. Only two factions under one banner could fend this size of army, and this has been looked into by dozens of biblical scholars and it always comes back to Muslim and China.
For the army comes from the Euphrates river area, which is where the Muslims and China to the east are located......
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I agree in a general sense, not getting onto details...
Rome "changed" the Sabbath

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."

Im saying it is bigger and more expansive than can be seen with the eyes...
it is very big.

Rome did not change the sabbath. They met on the first day of the week like the apostles did. and the church had done up until the time the roman empire took over the church and made it catholic.

what rome (the beast vs the vatican) will do. is far greater than the sabbath. it will control the world finances. Make the world bow and worship him (which the vatican would never allow) and many other things.
 
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kennethcadwell

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lol..

you really think that? Alot of people are getting rich of the vatican.

Like who? I do not see nations getting rich off of them. I do see plenty of places getting rich off the oil they get from Saudi Arabia and the merchandise they sell to them because Saudi Arabia is so desolate of an area most of their things they have to import. Including animals........
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The problem with that with Europe is they would have to band together,

they will. as I showed.

1. 10 horns are ten kings(nations), which will arise out of the original beast (rome)
2. another will arise (the little horn)
3. he will subdue three of the kings and these kingdoms will be added to his kingdom (leaving 7 kingdoms)
united as 1

and also Europe is in the wrong direction from where the army comes from. Only two factions under one banner could fend this size of army, and this has been looked into by dozens of biblical scholars and it always comes back to Muslim and China.
For the army comes from the Euphrates river area, which is where the Muslims and China to the east are located......
Rome was in Europe, where do you think it came from?. come on ken, now you just not thinking.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Like who? I do not see nations getting rich off of them. I do see plenty of places getting rich off the oil they get from Saudi Arabia and the merchandise they sell to them because Saudi Arabia is so desolate of an area most of their things they have to import. Including animals........
oh lets see.

Go to a catholic house and see all the idols. pictures, and many other things made by the merchants of the world who make those goods and services. go to the cathedrals. and see all the many rch things made by the world merchants.

Many people make ALOT of money selling catholic goods.

No where in revelation 17 does it say anything about the kings of the world getting rich off off oil..