Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?

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eternally-gratefull

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It is not Jerusalem my friend;);).

1. The "Kings of the Earth" are the rich oil barons - Saudi Princes, leaders of Muslim nations, etc. There are no Kings following Judaism.

2. The "Sea" where the Harlot Sits are Peoples, tongues and nations. The Sea is Muslim, they come from all over the world on the Haj to MECCA.

3. The world's Great False religion is ISLAM. It is by far the largest false religion in the world.

4. It is Islam that the BEAST empire rides until the BEAST destroys it. Saudi Arabia is building a "fortress" right now to keep the BEAST out.

5. ISLAM comes complete with a false God (ALLAH) and a false prophet (Muhammad). Today's radical Islam preaches the exact opposite from what Christ preached. Instead of Love, they preach hate and death to their enemies.

6. ISLAM frequently uses the chant "Allahu Akbar" which means God (Allah) is Great(est). This chant is the same chant the Greeks used for Diana.

This is so important. Look at Acts 19:35:

“Men of Ephesus, what man is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is temple guardian of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Zeus?

Great is Diana of the Ephesians!”

"Allahu Akbar" Allah is Great!

7. The symbol of ISLAM is the same symbol of ancient Babylon. The Star and Crescent.

This symbol can be found in Egypt and in ancient Babylon. It is the sign of Satan and idol worship. I will show the symbols next.

8. The 4th seal is ISLAM, Chloros =Green, not Pale. Green is the official color of Islam. It is Islam that sits on the "Green" horse and has power over 1/4 of the earth. Death and Hades follow those who kill for Islam.



9. The "kings of the earth" committed fornication, meaning they worshiped falsely which religion? ISLAM.

10. ISLAM is the religion drunk with the blood of the saints. Which religion hates Jews and Christians the most and is calling for the destruction of Israel? ISLAM.

11. John was carried into the wilderness (desert). MECCA is in the desert. Jer 50:37 tells us that the sword is "Against the Mixed Peoples." ARAB means "MIXED PEOPLES." Jeremiah goes on to say this:

For it is the land of carved images,
And they are insane with their idols.

What religion is going insane right now with their false idol worship?

“Therefore the wild desert beasts shall dwell there with the jackals,
And the ostriches shall dwell in it.

Jackals and ostriches are indigenous to Saudi Arabia.

It shall be inhabited no more forever...

Jerusalem remains inhabited as Christ comes back to Jerusalem and reigns there.

Against you, O daughter of Babylon.

12. The "wilderness" (where John was carried to see the Woman) is the same place the Children of Israel wondered in for 40 years. When they left Egypt, they crossed the Red Sea into current Saudi Arabia. It was here in Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia that Moses was given the 10 commandments and when Moses returned from the mountain, the Children of Israel built a Golden Calf to worship. Thus Saudi Arabia is the Land of Idols."

13. The daughter of Babylon is MECCA and ISLAM right down to the way they worship and right down to the way they are punished if they don't. Compare original Babylon worship in Dan 3:

To you it is commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages, [SUP]5 [/SUP]that at the time you hear the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, you shall fall down and worship the gold image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up; [SUP]6 [/SUP]and whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.”

Muslims are called to prayer by MUSIC, the exact same music!! What is said about Babylon when she is destroyed? Rev 18:

[SUP]22 [/SUP]The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore.


The worship of the BEAST (ISLAM) and the Harlot are done in the same manner. They worship an image.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. [SUP]15 [/SUP]He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

14. "The earth" is a specific location. It is the ISLAMIC earth, it is a fourth of the earth which ISLAM controls that people MUST worship or be killed. The same sentence of death for those who failed to worship in Daniel's day is imposed on Muslims who do not worship by bowing down to MECCA which is the location of the Kaaba Stone. The Kaaba Stone is their idol that they worship. The Kaaba Stone is a meteor that "FELL FROM THE SKY."

15. God's FIRST commandment was what? Exo 20:

[SUP]3 [/SUP]“You shall have no other gods before Me.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; [SUP]5 [/SUP]you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.

Again, what do Muslims (ISLAM) do? They worship an image that has fallen from the sky - the Kaaba Stone.

16. The "WOMAN" is arrayed in purple and scarlet - colors of royalty. This means nations that follow her are religious and not secular. ISLAM is the official religion of many Muslim nations and religious laws (i.e. Sharia) are enforced by these nations. The BEAST (the northen ISLAM nations currently comprised of ISIS and terror groups which Turkey will join) will hate the WOMAN (MECCA) and they will destroy it.

The Man of Sin (which many call AntChrist) will lead this force from the North against MECCA and Saudi Arabia (Read Dan 11). The Man of Sin (KIng of the North) declares himself above ALL CALLED GOD, even ALLAH. He advances a foreign god which "his fathers did no know" again, ALLAH.

17. Again, MECCA is a religious city, filled with wealth. [SUP]16 [/SUP]and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls!

MECCA is located by the SEA, the RED SEA. The ships stood at a distance in the Red Sea, which is the second largest shipping channel in the world and they cried out when they saw MECCA's destruction.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance [SUP]18 [/SUP]and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’

18. What happens to the sea? [SUP]8 [/SUP]Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. What color is "Blood" RED.

19. How did the Kings of the Arab world become rich? With their wine which is oil.

20. Muslims and Jews mourn in the same way. [SUP]19 [/SUP]“They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.’

Trade with Israel is relatively minor. Nobody is getting rich from trading with Israel. Trade with Saudi Arabia and her oil is a different story. For the nations of the world have become drunk with her wine - OIL.

If you still think Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem, I can't help you.

Its not Islam either.

The jews did not commit harlotry by playing with Muhammad or other islamic Gods
The prophets did not warn the jews against playing the harlot with the Gods of Islam.
Islam does not even come close with the mother child religion of paganism which closely represents the mother daughter relationship of God and Israel, in giving salvation to her offspring.

Paganism has and always will be the mother of harlots.


if you study Islam, It was made because a person wanted power. (he was not even antijewish, until the jews refused to acknowledge he was a prophet) Wanted sex, and wanted riches, so he formed this new religion, wrote a book, and got people to follow him.

Mystery babylon was created in babylon proper at the tower of babel. and has been a thorn in Gods side since then.
 

john832

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Zec 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

This is not the beast destroying babylon. this is God destroying them where they stand. thus these people can not be babylon as some claim.
Exactly, in the Battle of the Great Day of God Almighty...

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Armageddon is actually a misnomer, that is not the name of the final battle. The final battle is between the forces stirred up by Satan and Christ...

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

And it is no contest.
 

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ok talk about confusing, we are talking about how the roman empire or forth beast comes from, and you claimed it was this 200 million man army.

which is it?





I never claimed it did not. Yet rome does not destroy the 200 million man army, GOD DOES.
WHAT!!!!!!>>>>????? Are you kidding me??? Show me one passage that states God destroys the 200 million man army.

First off, this army is not made up of "men." Second, this army belongs to God, He doesn't destroy it.

This army brings divine punishment. This army kills 1/3 of mankind, the bad 1/3. How does it kill?

[SUP]18 [/SUP]By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

This is exactly how God destroys the wicked.

Genesis 19:24


Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens.

Luke 17:29


but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

Look some more at this 200 million strong army. What happens after God has killed 1/3 of mankind by divine judgment?

THEY DID NOT REPENT.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.


We know the Lord returns with an angelic army and that He fights and wins at Armageddon. We further know that the blood from the dead is deep and long. Here is the third of mankind killed.

Revelation 14:20


And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.


This is Armageddon. Since we know that the Lord has a 200 million strong angelic army, doesn't it make sense that there were 300 million angels before Satan took 1/3 of them?

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.

Satan then has 100 million demons leaving God 200 million angels in His army.

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Let's do some math. The world has approx 7 billion people comprised as follows:


[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 5"]Size of Major Religious Groups, 2012[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Religion[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Christianity[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]31.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Muslim[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]23.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Unaffiliated[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]16.3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Hindu[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]15.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Buddhist *[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]7.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Folk[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Other[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.8%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Jewish[/TD]
[TD]  
[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Pew Research Center, 2012[SUP][/SUP]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

31.5% of the world are Christians or state they believe in God.
31.5% of 7 Billion = 2.21 Billion Christians

23.2% are Muslim
23.2% of 7 Billion = 1.62 Billion Muslims worshiping Allah

We know from Rev 7 that a "Great Multitude" of saved people "Come out of Great Tribulation" because they are seen in heaven. So, let's remove the vast majority of Christians from the earth.

7 Billion - 2.21 Billion = 4.8 Billion People Left.

What percentage of the world would then be Muslim?

1.62/4.8 = 33.87% or one third of the world. It is this 1/3 of mankind that are killed by God's 200 million strong heavenly army.
 

john832

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WHAT!!!!!!>>>>????? Are you kidding me??? Show me one passage that states God destroys the 200 million man army.

First off, this army is not made up of "men." Second, this army belongs to God, He doesn't destroy it.

This army brings divine punishment. This army kills 1/3 of mankind, the bad 1/3. How does it kill?

[SUP]18 [/SUP]By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

This is exactly how God destroys the wicked.

Genesis 19:24


Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens.

Luke 17:29


but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

Look some more at this 200 million strong army. What happens after God has killed 1/3 of mankind by divine judgment?

THEY DID NOT REPENT.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.


We know the Lord returns with an angelic army and that He fights and wins at Armageddon. We further know that the blood from the dead is deep and long. Here is the third of mankind killed.

Revelation 14:20


And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.


This is Armageddon. Since we know that the Lord has a 200 million strong angelic army, doesn't it make sense that there were 300 million angels before Satan took 1/3 of them?

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.

Satan then has 100 million demons leaving God 200 million angels in His army.

_________________________________________________________________

Let's do some math. The world has approx 7 billion people comprised as follows:


[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 5"]Size of Major Religious Groups, 2012[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Religion[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Christianity[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]31.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Muslim[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]23.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Unaffiliated[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]16.3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Hindu[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]15.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Buddhist *[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]7.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Folk[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Other[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.8%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Jewish[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Pew Research Center, 2012[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

31.5% of the world are Christians or state they believe in God.
31.5% of 7 Billion = 2.21 Billion Christians

23.2% are Muslim
23.2% of 7 Billion = 1.62 Billion Muslims worshiping Allah

We know from Rev 7 that a "Great Multitude" of saved people "Come out of Great Tribulation" because they are seen in heaven. So, let's remove the vast majority of Christians from the earth.

7 Billion - 2.21 Billion = 4.8 Billion People Left.

What percentage of the world would then be Muslim?

1.62/4.8 = 33.87% or one third of the world. It is this 1/3 of mankind that are killed by God's 200 million strong heavenly army.
Not a clue.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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WHAT!!!!!!>>>>????? Are you kidding me??? Show me one passage that states God destroys the 200 million man army.

First off, this army is not made up of "men." Second, this army belongs to God, He doesn't destroy it.

This army brings divine punishment. This army kills 1/3 of mankind, the bad 1/3. How does it kill?

[SUP]18 [/SUP]By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

This is exactly how God destroys the wicked.

Genesis 19:24


Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens.

Luke 17:29


but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

Look some more at this 200 million strong army. What happens after God has killed 1/3 of mankind by divine judgment?

THEY DID NOT REPENT.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.


We know the Lord returns with an angelic army and that He fights and wins at Armageddon. We further know that the blood from the dead is deep and long. Here is the third of mankind killed.

Revelation 14:20


And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.


This is Armageddon. Since we know that the Lord has a 200 million strong angelic army, doesn't it make sense that there were 300 million angels before Satan took 1/3 of them?

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.

Satan then has 100 million demons leaving God 200 million angels in His army.

_________________________________________________________________

Let's do some math. The world has approx 7 billion people comprised as follows:


[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 5"]Size of Major Religious Groups, 2012[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Religion[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Christianity[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]31.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Muslim[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]23.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Unaffiliated[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]16.3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Hindu[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]15.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Buddhist *[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]7.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Folk[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Other[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.8%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Jewish[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Pew Research Center, 2012[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

31.5% of the world are Christians or state they believe in God.
31.5% of 7 Billion = 2.21 Billion Christians

23.2% are Muslim
23.2% of 7 Billion = 1.62 Billion Muslims worshiping Allah

We know from Rev 7 that a "Great Multitude" of saved people "Come out of Great Tribulation" because they are seen in heaven. So, let's remove the vast majority of Christians from the earth.

7 Billion - 2.21 Billion = 4.8 Billion People Left.

What percentage of the world would then be Muslim?

1.62/4.8 = 33.87% or one third of the world. It is this 1/3 of mankind that are killed by God's 200 million strong heavenly army.
it is obvious you are not listening to the discussion.

God has used the armies of men many times to punish his people (see babylon, media perisa, greece and rome for starters.


The topic is that Islam is the great harlot.

as for Islam. The antichrist will crush Islam. He will not allow any worship except worship of himself. Whoever is islamic in his day will either deny islam, and chose to bow down to him, or be crushed.
 

PlainWord

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Its not Islam either.

The jews did not commit harlotry by playing with Muhammad or other islamic Gods
The prophets did not warn the jews against playing the harlot with the Gods of Islam.
Islam does not even come close with the mother child religion of paganism which closely represents the mother daughter relationship of God and Israel, in giving salvation to her offspring.

Paganism has and always will be the mother of harlots.


if you study Islam, It was made because a person wanted power. (he was not even antijewish, until the jews refused to acknowledge he was a prophet) Wanted sex, and wanted riches, so he formed this new religion, wrote a book, and got people to follow him.

Mystery babylon was created in babylon proper at the tower of babel. and has been a thorn in Gods side since then.
The Jews are not going to be worshiping Islam. I never said that!!!! The BEAST hates the WOMAN and destroys her - remember? The BEAST advances a foreign god, a god of fortresses, a god their fathers did not know. The god their fathers knew is/was Allah. Therefore the BEAST kingdom is going to be advancing something or someone else.

[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. [SUP]37 [/SUP]He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. [SUP]38 [/SUP]But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things.

This King of the North is the Man of Sin which is Satan as a man who leads the BEAST to attack and destroy MECCA and ISLAM and replace it with himself - Satan - calling himself above all that is called God. 2/3 of the Jews will fall for this and be cut off, 1/3 will remain true to the real God.
 

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it is obvious you are not listening to the discussion.

God has used the armies of men many times to punish his people (see babylon, media perisa, greece and rome for starters.


The topic is that Islam is the great harlot.

as for Islam. The antichrist will crush Islam. He will not allow any worship except worship of himself. Whoever is islamic in his day will either deny islam, and chose to bow down to him, or be crushed.
Obviously we are having a failure to communicate. The 200 million strong army is God's and He uses it to destroy the BEAST which by then will make up 1/3 of mankind.
 
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WHAT!!!!!!>>>>????? Are you kidding me??? Show me one passage that states God destroys the 200 million man army.

First off, this army is not made up of "men." Second, this army belongs to God, He doesn't destroy it.

This army brings divine punishment. This army kills 1/3 of mankind, the bad 1/3. How does it kill?

[SUP]18 [/SUP]By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

This is exactly how God destroys the wicked.

Genesis 19:24


Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens.

Luke 17:29


but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

Look some more at this 200 million strong army. What happens after God has killed 1/3 of mankind by divine judgment?

THEY DID NOT REPENT.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.


We know the Lord returns with an angelic army and that He fights and wins at Armageddon. We further know that the blood from the dead is deep and long. Here is the third of mankind killed.

Revelation 14:20


And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.


This is Armageddon. Since we know that the Lord has a 200 million strong angelic army, doesn't it make sense that there were 300 million angels before Satan took 1/3 of them?

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.

Satan then has 100 million demons leaving God 200 million angels in His army.

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Let's do some math. The world has approx 7 billion people comprised as follows:


[TABLE]
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[TH="colspan: 5"]Size of Major Religious Groups, 2012[/TH]
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[TD]Religion[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]Christianity[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]31.5%[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]Muslim[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]23.2%[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]Unaffiliated[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]16.3%[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Hindu[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]15.0%[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Buddhist *[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]7.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Folk[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Other[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.8%[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]Jewish[/TD]
[TD]  [/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]0.2%[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]Pew Research Center, 2012[/TD]
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31.5% of the world are Christians or state they believe in God.
31.5% of 7 Billion = 2.21 Billion Christians

23.2% are Muslim
23.2% of 7 Billion = 1.62 Billion Muslims worshiping Allah

We know from Rev 7 that a "Great Multitude" of saved people "Come out of Great Tribulation" because they are seen in heaven. So, let's remove the vast majority of Christians from the earth.

7 Billion - 2.21 Billion = 4.8 Billion People Left.

What percentage of the world would then be Muslim?

1.62/4.8 = 33.87% or one third of the world. It is this 1/3 of mankind that are killed by God's 200 million strong heavenly army.
I would say armageddon is part of it, The main battle. only at that time, all evil all over the world will be wiped out at the same time.
 
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The Jews are not going to be worshiping Islam. I never said that!!!!
what does that have a thing to do with what I said? Are you even listening to what is being discussed? Who said anything about the jews?

The BEAST hates the WOMAN and destroys her - remember?

No, He does not destroy her, she is protected by God himself. thus he goes after her offspring,


The BEAST advances a foreign god, a god of fortresses, a god their fathers did not know. The god their fathers knew is/was Allah. Therefore the BEAST kingdom is going to be advancing something or someone else.
Dude, he is going to advance himself as God chosen, the false Christ (Anti Christ)

He places himself above Christ, Above Muhammad or Allah, Above any God the world has ever known, He claims to be the messiah of God, and only he will be worshiped.


[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god,


Above every God, this would include Allah!

shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. [SUP]37 [/SUP]He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. [SUP]38 [/SUP]But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things.
This King of the North is the Man of Sin which is Satan as a man who leads the BEAST to attack and destroy MECCA and ISLAM and replace it with himself - Satan - calling himself above all that is called God. 2/3 of the Jews will fall for this and be cut off, 1/3 will remain true to the real God.
what bible do you read? the jews do what God tells them to do when the sea the abomination of desolation, and runs to the hills where God protects them. The beast of any nation can not touch Israel. For his protection will overcome them all. look at all the armies comming against Israel. Yet God destroys them all.
 
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Obviously we are having a failure to communicate. The 200 million strong army is God's and He uses it to destroy the BEAST which by then will make up 1/3 of mankind.
No it is not Gods. it belongs to 2 kings. God uses it, but it is not Gods, God will destroy them when they try to come up against jerusalem.

Yes, their is a failure to communicate.

the vew of a few here is that Islam is the mother of harlots. that is what we are discussing, your going off topic!
 

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it is obvious you are not listening to the discussion.

God has used the armies of men many times to punish his people (see babylon, media perisa, greece and rome for starters.


The topic is that Islam is the great harlot.

as for Islam. The antichrist will crush Islam. He will not allow any worship except worship of himself. Whoever is islamic in his day will either deny islam, and chose to bow down to him, or be crushed.
You are correct on one thing - Islam will be crushed. ISLAM is the HARLOT and the Man of Sin will crush it. This is what I have been saying. Radical Islam has already turned against traditional Islam and the destruction is underway.

But the 200 million strong army is not human - and God does not destroy it. It is God's army. Everything about it screams that this army is doing God's work, killing 1/3 of mankind, the wicked third.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.

HEADS OF LIONS

Revelation 5:5

But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”

Revelation 10:3

and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars. When he cried out, seven thunders uttered their voices.


Revelation 19:14
And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
 

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No it is not Gods. it belongs to 2 kings. God uses it, but it is not Gods, God will destroy them when they try to come up against jerusalem.

Yes, their is a failure to communicate.

the vew of a few here is that Islam is the mother of harlots. that is what we are discussing, your going off topic!
You brought up the 200 man army and said God will destroy it. I had to show you that this is wrong. This is God's army and it is not controlled by 2 kings. What makes you think it is? The 1/3 of mankind killed is Muslim. I showed you the math. This 1/3 of mankind comes up against Jerusalem and God's 200 million strong heavenly army intervenes. Good grief.
 
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You are correct on one thing - Islam will be crushed. ISLAM is the HARLOT and the Man of Sin will crush it. This is what I have been saying. Radical Islam has already turned against traditional Islam and the destruction is underway.

But the 200 million strong army is not human - and God does not destroy it. It is God's army. Everything about it screams that this army is doing God's work, killing 1/3 of mankind, the wicked third.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.

HEADS OF LIONS

Revelation 5:5

But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”

Revelation 10:3

and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars. When he cried out, seven thunders uttered their voices.


Revelation 19:14
And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
again.

Islam is NOT the mother of harlots. or babylon. it does not even come close to resemble her.

so now we are back to my first post to you. Are you going to read it?
 
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You brought up the 200 man army and said God will destroy it. I had to show you that this is wrong. This is God's army and it is not controlled by 2 kings. What makes you think it is? The 1/3 of mankind killed is Muslim. I showed you the math. This 1/3 of mankind comes up against Jerusalem and God's 200 million strong heavenly army intervenes. Good grief.

lol. do you read revelation? most of the judgments are God using evil men to punish the world..

Any army which comes up against jeruslaem will be destroyed.

the only army which will come up and not be destroyed is the army who comes when Jesus comes on a white horse with his robe dipped in blood.

You need to study more my friend.
 

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what does that have a thing to do with what I said? Are you even listening to what is being discussed? Who said anything about the jews?
YOU DID!!! Right here...

The jews did not commit harlotry by playing with Muhammad or other islamic Gods
The prophets did not warn the jews against playing the harlot with the Gods of Islam.
Islam does not even come close with the mother child religion of paganism which closely represents the mother daughter relationship of God and Israel, in giving salvation to her offspring.

Paganism has and always will be the mother of harlots.
I guess you just haven't been given eyes to see. Look around you. Turn on the TV, pick up a newspaper. Can you really be this blind. Sorry, but its like talking to a wall.

Mystery babylon was created in babylon proper at the tower of babel. and has been a thorn in Gods side since then.
EXACTLY!! And the Babylonians also worshiped an image. They also fell down and worshiped with the call to prayer went out, just like Islam. The music was the same and the symbol is the same. Sure there were changes but it's all Satanic.
 

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I thought you will a little more in tune with what's happening and going to happen.
Your first statements are inaccurate...

WHAT!!!!!!>>>>????? Are you kidding me??? Show me one passage that states God destroys the 200 million man army.
Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.




First off, this army is not made up of "men." Second, this army belongs to God, He doesn't destroy it.
Oh yes they are, and oh yes He does...

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

These are men who are led by three demonic spirits and God destroys them...

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Who is setting on that horse?

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Now go read John 1 if you want to know Who the Word of God is.

This army brings divine punishment. This army kills 1/3 of mankind, the bad 1/3. How does it kill?
Nope, this army RECEIVES divine punishment, see above.
 

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lol. do you read revelation? most of the judgments are God using evil men to punish the world..

Any army which comes up against jeruslaem will be destroyed.

the only army which will come up and not be destroyed is the army who comes when Jesus comes on a white horse with his robe dipped in blood.

You need to study more my friend.
Show me the 200 million strong army coming up against Jerusalem.. Where do you see that?

This is God's army. WOW. This army kills the unrepentant wicked. It's okay my friend. Most don't see. You still believe you are going to be caught up in a cloud and whisked off to heaven to avoid Satan's Great Tribulation. The Christian world gets absolutely decimated by Satan which is why it is called, "THE GREAT TRIBULATION." But you will never see it. Sad, really!!
 

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again.

Islam is NOT the mother of harlots. or babylon. it does not even come close to resemble her.

so now we are back to my first post to you. Are you going to read it?
In reality, when the Beast power arises and begins to exercise power, Islam is not even noted as a force on the scene.
 
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YOU DID!!! Right here...
lol.. and can you tell me what those words have anything to do with the jews worshiping islam?

They prove who the harlot is, you use historical context, and biblical history to interpret the word do you not?

the harlot of John will have those signs..


I guess you just haven't been given eyes to see. Look around you. Turn on the TV, pick up a newspaper. Can you really be this blind. Sorry, but its like talking to a wall.

eyes to see? Look up scripture, and history of the word. you will see and not be so blind.

the harlot is and always has been paganism, what is paganistic about islam?

instead of judging, why do you not open your eyes.


do you think any 1st century reader would see the mother of harlots who has caused Gods people to commit adultry, as Islam?

get real man!


EXACTLY!! And the Babylonians also worshiped an image. They also fell down and worshiped with the call to prayer went out, just like Islam. The music was the same and the symbol is the same. Sure there were changes but it's all Satanic.
no they are not the same,
babylon had the image of the mother and child.

the child killed and risen again is the symbol of babylon

The high priest, the temples the sacraments are all symbols of babylon, Islam has non of these.