lets talk about gay people!!!
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So... this thread was started for the purpose of learning how to reach gays. Sixteen pages in, how many suggestions have been offered?
Naaaaah, forget how to reach the lost. It's much more fun to yell at other christians.
Naaaaah, forget how to reach the lost. It's much more fun to yell at other christians.
I dont understand, Paul warned others on how to live, and to depart from iniquity, and said dont be decieved, and warned them about those which practiced that which he listed would not enter the Kingdom of God, that wouldnt be condemning them but warning them
I dont know what Sirk does or might mean, I speak the things for myself not for someone else
after reading this post, i went back and read the op. in the op it says a goal is to 'encourage' gays - what does that mean? i don't know.... encourage them to keep on sinning and die apart from christ?
or does it mean encourage them/ like the apostles, persuade them if possible to repent and be saved ?
what suggestion is any good if it doesn't lead to godly sorrow leading to repentance ?
i didn't search through the posts to see if anyone was yelling at other christians .... if someone chooses to yell at (true) christians they don't have to worry, the (true) christians don't take offense, regardless of whether it's fun or not.
notice that a lot of sexual perverts do take offense when their sin is exposed. that's their way of life and choice, instead of having godly sorrow leading to repentance.
or does it mean encourage them/ like the apostles, persuade them if possible to repent and be saved ?
what suggestion is any good if it doesn't lead to godly sorrow leading to repentance ?
i didn't search through the posts to see if anyone was yelling at other christians .... if someone chooses to yell at (true) christians they don't have to worry, the (true) christians don't take offense, regardless of whether it's fun or not.
notice that a lot of sexual perverts do take offense when their sin is exposed. that's their way of life and choice, instead of having godly sorrow leading to repentance.
So... this thread was started for the purpose of learning how to reach gays. Sixteen pages in, how many suggestions have been offered?
Naaaaah, forget how to reach the lost. It's much more fun to yell at other christians.
Naaaaah, forget how to reach the lost. It's much more fun to yell at other christians.
I think it's considered a big sin because it's a lifestyle choice if you choose to embrace it. So, it's kind of like living in sin in away.
However, what if someone went about a gay relationship the right way? They exercised boundaries while dating, saving themselves only for marriage, loving one another, and staying faithful to each other. If they did all that, what exactly makes it a sin. I mean, I'm speaking intuitively here. What wrong would be going on there?
However, what if someone went about a gay relationship the right way? They exercised boundaries while dating, saving themselves only for marriage, loving one another, and staying faithful to each other. If they did all that, what exactly makes it a sin. I mean, I'm speaking intuitively here. What wrong would be going on there?
My pastor informed me I was not entering the Kingdom of God if I continued in fornication with my boyfreind, that was warning me in his love, better an open rebuke then hidden love.
So I married my boyfreind and he become my husband (now of 25 years)
The pastor didnt shut the kingdom of God in my face by allowing me to go on in my sin, so I am thankful for him
So I married my boyfreind and he become my husband (now of 25 years)
The pastor didnt shut the kingdom of God in my face by allowing me to go on in my sin, so I am thankful for him
*sigh* Back already, FalmingSpirit a.k.a. Servant_of_God, and now, Messenger_of_Fire?
Please note his posts in the past, under his different names:
Posts by Flamingspirit under locked thread, A Biblical verse on accepting our gay brethren: Acts 8:26-40:
-"Condemning gays to hell IS judging according to the flesh. It's judging only by what you see. Put yourself in a gay mans shoes and ask yourself what can happen in your life that will make you gay. In learning to sympathize with him, you will learn that forgiveness in your brother and not condemning him simply by what you see, is walking in the Spirit!
What power can any law have against the man I forgave!?"
-"A man who is born disabled, one arm or leg, 6 fingers on one hand, is this also against the visible nature of God? Are they also sinners who need to repent?
I have yet to meet a man who is attracted to females, but sleep with men to simply do it."
Posts by Flamingspirit under thread, What Part of the Law is That?:
- "Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?"
- "If we had no money, no one will starve or be homeless. No one would steal if all things were free. Money is a lifeless piece of paper. Why make it an idol any longer?"
- "Money is imaginary. It is only needed because we believe and accept it to be. The garden is in the mind. Now if I had something you want, I can either give it to you or demand something in return. It is a choice."
- "What do you think you're under if I say getting rid of money will greatly benefit all of mankind and I get every excuse why we should keep believing debt is real. The world is $40 trillion in debt..... TO WHO???"
If someone new talks about everyone being in heaven, about doing away with money, and about children being born with incomplete appendages, among other things, be ready to report, so he could be banned AGAIN. This is the 3RD time I've seen him spreading heresies in this forum.
Please note his posts in the past, under his different names:
Posts by Flamingspirit under locked thread, A Biblical verse on accepting our gay brethren: Acts 8:26-40:
-"Condemning gays to hell IS judging according to the flesh. It's judging only by what you see. Put yourself in a gay mans shoes and ask yourself what can happen in your life that will make you gay. In learning to sympathize with him, you will learn that forgiveness in your brother and not condemning him simply by what you see, is walking in the Spirit!
What power can any law have against the man I forgave!?"
-"A man who is born disabled, one arm or leg, 6 fingers on one hand, is this also against the visible nature of God? Are they also sinners who need to repent?
I have yet to meet a man who is attracted to females, but sleep with men to simply do it."
Posts by Flamingspirit under thread, What Part of the Law is That?:
- "Seeing as not having money is the direct reason that most in the world are starving, homeless or sickly, what law of God commands us to use it?"
- "If we had no money, no one will starve or be homeless. No one would steal if all things were free. Money is a lifeless piece of paper. Why make it an idol any longer?"
- "Money is imaginary. It is only needed because we believe and accept it to be. The garden is in the mind. Now if I had something you want, I can either give it to you or demand something in return. It is a choice."
- "What do you think you're under if I say getting rid of money will greatly benefit all of mankind and I get every excuse why we should keep believing debt is real. The world is $40 trillion in debt..... TO WHO???"
If someone new talks about everyone being in heaven, about doing away with money, and about children being born with incomplete appendages, among other things, be ready to report, so he could be banned AGAIN. This is the 3RD time I've seen him spreading heresies in this forum.
intuitively doesn't work - in the flesh it continues to allow and to condone sin and life opposed to yahweh.
yahweh's word (bible) and yahshua never permitted abominations or perversions - there's no such thing as 'the right way' to live in completely unnatural and perverse sin as an enemy of yahweh and so completely contrary to his word.
complete repentance is required , no matter what the sin is -- there's no 'right way' to just go on sinning.
yahweh's word (bible) and yahshua never permitted abominations or perversions - there's no such thing as 'the right way' to live in completely unnatural and perverse sin as an enemy of yahweh and so completely contrary to his word.
complete repentance is required , no matter what the sin is -- there's no 'right way' to just go on sinning.
No, he told me to repent and turn from my sin as I was a fornicator working unrighteousness
Pauls words are this
1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cr 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
However still,
Jesus said, Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
And the will of the Father is to abstain from the same
1 Thes 4:3 For this is the will of God,even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
Pauls words are this
1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cr 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
However still,
Jesus said, Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
And the will of the Father is to abstain from the same
1 Thes 4:3 For this is the will of God,even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: