Who Is Satan?

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MadParrotWoman

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For me, the ISIS organisation are the blatant followers of Satan. Everything about them matches the evil one, their false God - Allah, their beliefs, their total disregard for human life, pleasure at human suffering and de-humanization of it's victims. This has set me thinking - if this is so who IS Satan himself? How can we single him out from all his evil followers. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Is it Allah himself? Or does he walk this earth?
 

Blain

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Satan is worshipped as many gods Allah Zues budda ect there is but one God
 

ISeeYou

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Peter was adressed in that manner

Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Satan can speak through others, just as his voice (even of desire) to have Job (through his temptations) was for Job to curse God. Given he recieved permission to touch his flesh and bone, his wife is just that also.

And His voice was speaking towards Job to entice him through his own wife also

Job 2:9
Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

(See Job 2:5, this was Satans expressed desire towards him, which even come through his flesh and bone (ie his own wife)


Same with Adams wife,

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it

Satan decieved the woman and Adam hearkened unto his wife to listen to her

Seems like the same even there.




 

blue_ladybug

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According to the evil eye my cat just gave me, SHE is Satan!! lol..jk.. bored bed rest humor here.. derail over..carry on.. :eek:
 

ISeeYou

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According to the evil eye my cat just gave me, SHE is Satan!! lol..jk.. bored bed rest humor here.. derail over..carry on.. :eek:
I actually get that, looking at the ceiling (for long periods of time) is one of my forced discplines lol
 

blue_ladybug

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I actually get that, looking at the ceiling (for long periods of time) is one of my forced discplines lol

yeah, and i'm facing another month of bed rest.. :/ thank goodness for youtube and tv re-runs..lol.. I've watched every dvd movie I have about a million times over now..boring!!! Being forced into doing nothing does NOT make me happy.. :(
 

ISeeYou

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yeah, and i'm facing another month of bed rest.. :/ thank goodness for youtube and tv re-runs..lol.. I've watched every dvd movie I have about a million times over now..boring!!! Being forced into doing nothing does NOT make me happy.. :(
I know what you mean, after two years of it once, I just wanted to close my eyes one last time and not open them again,

BUT no such luck, times of futility seem to be assigned to me I guess.

Doesnt make me enjoy it anymore, tough being alone in that for so long. Hope you will be okay with it, you will make it through this thing.

Always reminded of a spirit of infirmity when it come to the back of the woman though

She was still a daughter of Abraham though, she was loosed of that infirmity, but after 18 years of it

I was thinking, man how much longer would that be? lol

Im derailing the thread, keep your mind on Him and the things above, its the only thing that kept me sane.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Satan is worshipped as many gods Allah Zues budda ect there is but one God
Buddha is not and was never a god. Just saying!
 
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JustAnotherUser

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While I don't doubt that ISIS is from the pit of evil itself, I do believe that they are being allowed to serve more than to full on believe that they are serving God (allah to them) by abiding by what their disgusting quran promotes. Just like in human history where mass murdering took place and it was forcefully accepted or you die too, they all tie on the fact that it decreases the general population by taking out civilians and soldiers alike, making it more like a human population control despite that we're 'at war with ISIS'. Can't we say the same about there being a mass 'genocide' and false information for when it comes to abortions and how they process? Besides, why bring in so many more faces than what we have now if we fear of lacking the resources to provide for them all?

Mind you, I don't agree with the last bit even though I get convinced that there's too many people walking around (being the antisocial that I am anyway). But it's pretty much how it's ran. Maybe the ISIS members solely think they're serving their god when reality is they're helping those who cooperate for mass destruction to occur in the first place.
 
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We cannot think or talk about Satan without understanding the "The Mystery of Sin"
When we think or talk about Satan, it's never without sin.
When we think or talk about God, it's never without righteousness.
Asking the question, "who is Satan", we need to look at "Who he was", "Where he's from"

Now some learned men asked the question, "How could sin start in such a perfect place as Heaven?"
Well, the question is, did it?
Now when Adam & Eve was created, Satan was already there.
And just where did he come from? Surely he couldn't have been there all the time.

GOD IN ETERNITY
Now in Eternity, there was just God, no heavens, no earth, no angelic hosts, no nothing.
It was just Him filling every bit of space with All His Attributes.
To be the Creator, He had to give expression to His Attributes and create.
To be the Father, He had to give expression to His Attributes and create angels and finally man.
To be the Healer, man had to become sick, diseased.
Thus we can see how God gave expression to His Attributes in Eternity.

ANGELIC POWERSWhen God created the angelic host, they were created in ranking.
They were made,powers, principalities, might, dominion (Eph.1:21) thrones (Col.1:16).
Some were ordinary angels, some were of a higher rank.

ANGELIC RANKING
1) Some is known as Seraphim - they are the confessors of Jehovah's glory/
They had each 6 wings - with 2 they covered their faces - a sign of unworthiness to look upon His Majesty
with 2 they covered their feet - a sign of being unworthy to stand His Holiness's presence.
2) Some are known as Cherubim - they are the protectors of Jehovah's glory;
two were standing with stretched out wings over the Mercy seat, guarding it.
two were placed in Eden with flaming sword guarding the way to the tree of life lest man
should eat of the tree of life and become eternal sinners.

THEIR NAMES
3 MAJOR FIGURES AMONGST THE ANGELIC HOST KNOWN BY NAME 1) Gabriel - who stands before the Lord (i) His is to announce major events
(ii) And to bring revelation such as to Daniel
2) Michael - He is Chief amongst the angelic host.
(i) He have a certain group of angels under him.
(ii) He is called a prince, a chief prince, a force not to play around with.
3) Lucifer - Morning star with 1/3 under his rule.

Gabriel, Michael is from above, but Lucifer wasn't.
He was placed by God in the earth to give glory unto God.
Now note when Adam & Eve met him in the garden, they didn't met him as Lucifer, morning star, but as Satan, the serpent and the old dragon.
So what happened between the period of him being created Lucifer and becoming Satan?

PROOF HE WASN'T IN HEAVEN
"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God" (read Eze.28:12-15 describing Lucifer in Eden)
This is prior to he's being in Adam's Eden as the serpent.
His description is beyond that state of Adam's Edenic experience.This is the Lucifer that ruled in the earth over 1/3, supposed to be the protector of worshiping the Almighty.
While in the original Eden,
sin discovered him and thus was sin discovered in him.
It was sin that turned him from Lucifer to Satan. The mystery of sin is to deep.
Sin is definitely not something to play around with.

"Thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven". (Isa.14:13)
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds" (v.14)
He was not there in heaven in the 1st place. He was on the original earth in the original Eden.
Then he got it in his mind to ascend up into heaven ans overthrow God.
And that's where Michael and his angels blocked him, in the heavens.
There is a fire wall in the heavens through which no virus of sin can penetrate, and that firewall is Michael and his angels.
So he got cast down, becomes Satan, and God's anger overthrew the heavens and the earth, thus "the [original-created out of nothing] earth became [not was] without form and empty.
Satan got his abode now somewhere in the heavens, thus he became the "the Prince of the power of the air" (Eph.2:2) from being the "annointed covering cherub in the earth" (Eze.28:14)

But God did something to them in their punishment, He undressed them, they became naked spirits which means they can possess bodies now.
Have we ever read in Scripture of the holy angels of God that possessed the bodies of humans or animals?
They cannot for they are not naked. But Satan and the demons can because they are naked spirits.
They constantly seek a body to possess.
Have we ever read of demons appearing visibly to the patriarchs or other men in Scripture, even eating with them (Gn.18)
They cannot for they are naked spirits but the holy angels can because they have glorified bodies.
Since there was no sinful human body available on earth, the best available one Satan could choose from was the serpent.
After that we never read of him entering another animal because animals is not his target, humans are.

THE LAWS
God put laws in place, angelic beings cannot exist in our world neither can humans in their world.
Any who is to be part of mans world is to come via a woman that's why the Saviour had to make a legal entrance into our world, via a woman.
Satan tried to invade our world illegally through the sons of God that went in to the daughters of man, thus wanted to corrupt the generation whereby the Messiah was to come.

Homosexuality, ISIS, you name it, is manifestations of demon possession.
Individuals, organizations, governments doing abnormal things is demon possession.

LITTLE TIME
Satan is let loosed on the earth, and we are warned that in the last days it will be perilous times.
Doctrines of demons, Governing of demons, Influencing of demons, Possessing of demons.
Satan is angry at man because he knows he's got little time left.
2000 years ago the demons were already nerved wrecked when Christ came, and feared that they were to be punished before their time. Don't take Satan lightly, he's a very angry devil, he hates us and will do all in his power to destroy us.
He cannot take it that "God so loved mankind", it just pisses him off.
 
Feb 5, 2015
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#11
We cannot think or talk about Satan without understanding the "The Mystery of Sin"
When we think or talk about Satan, it's never without sin.
When we think or talk about God, it's never without righteousness.
Asking the question, "who is Satan", we need to look at "Who he was", "Where he's from"

Now some learned men asked the question, "How could sin start in such a perfect place as Heaven?"
Well, the question is, did it?
Now when Adam & Eve was created, Satan was already there.
And just where did he come from? Surely he couldn't have been there all the time.

GOD IN ETERNITY
Now in Eternity, there was just God, no heavens, no earth, no angelic hosts, no nothing.
It was just Him filling every bit of space with All His Attributes.
To be the Creator, He had to give expression to His Attributes and create.
To be the Father, He had to give expression to His Attributes and create angels and finally man.
To be the Healer, man had to become sick, diseased.
Thus we can see how God gave expression to His Attributes in Eternity.

ANGELIC POWERSWhen God created the angelic host, they were created in ranking.
They were made,powers, principalities, might, dominion (Eph.1:21) thrones (Col.1:16).
Some were ordinary angels, some were of a higher rank.

ANGELIC RANKING
1) Some is known as Seraphim - they are the confessors of Jehovah's glory/
They had each 6 wings - with 2 they covered their faces - a sign of unworthiness to look upon His Majesty
with 2 they covered their feet - a sign of being unworthy to stand His Holiness's presence.
2) Some are known as Cherubim - they are the protectors of Jehovah's glory;
two were standing with stretched out wings over the Mercy seat, guarding it.
two were placed in Eden with flaming sword guarding the way to the tree of life lest man
should eat of the tree of life and become eternal sinners.

THEIR NAMES
3 MAJOR FIGURES AMONGST THE ANGELIC HOST KNOWN BY NAME 1) Gabriel - who stands before the Lord (i) His is to announce major events
(ii) And to bring revelation such as to Daniel
2) Michael - He is Chief amongst the angelic host.
(i) He have a certain group of angels under him.
(ii) He is called a prince, a chief prince, a force not to play around with.
3) Lucifer - Morning star with 1/3 under his rule.

Gabriel, Michael is from above, but Lucifer wasn't.
He was placed by God in the earth to give glory unto God.
Now note when Adam & Eve met him in the garden, they didn't met him as Lucifer, morning star, but as Satan, the serpent and the old dragon.
So what happened between the period of him being created Lucifer and becoming Satan?

PROOF HE WASN'T IN HEAVEN
"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God" (read Eze.28:12-15 describing Lucifer in Eden)
This is prior to he's being in Adam's Eden as the serpent.
His description is beyond that state of Adam's Edenic experience.This is the Lucifer that ruled in the earth over 1/3, supposed to be the protector of worshiping the Almighty.
While in the original Eden,
sin discovered him and thus was sin discovered in him.
It was sin that turned him from Lucifer to Satan. The mystery of sin is to deep.
Sin is definitely not something to play around with.

"Thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven". (Isa.14:13)
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds" (v.14)
He was not there in heaven in the 1st place. He was on the original earth in the original Eden.
Then he got it in his mind to ascend up into heaven ans overthrow God.
And that's where Michael and his angels blocked him, in the heavens.
There is a fire wall in the heavens through which no virus of sin can penetrate, and that firewall is Michael and his angels.
So he got cast down, becomes Satan, and God's anger overthrew the heavens and the earth, thus "the [original-created out of nothing] earth became [not was] without form and empty.
Satan got his abode now somewhere in the heavens, thus he became the "the Prince of the power of the air" (Eph.2:2) from being the "annointed covering cherub in the earth" (Eze.28:14)

But God did something to them in their punishment, He undressed them, they became naked spirits which means they can possess bodies now.
Have we ever read in Scripture of the holy angels of God that possessed the bodies of humans or animals?
They cannot for they are not naked. But Satan and the demons can because they are naked spirits.
They constantly seek a body to possess.
Have we ever read of demons appearing visibly to the patriarchs or other men in Scripture, even eating with them (Gn.18)
They cannot for they are naked spirits but the holy angels can because they have glorified bodies.
Since there was no sinful human body available on earth, the best available one Satan could choose from was the serpent.
After that we never read of him entering another animal because animals is not his target, humans are.

THE LAWS
God put laws in place, angelic beings cannot exist in our world neither can humans in their world.
Any who is to be part of mans world is to come via a woman that's why the Saviour had to make a legal entrance into our world, via a woman.
Satan tried to invade our world illegally through the sons of God that went in to the daughters of man, thus wanted to corrupt the generation whereby the Messiah was to come.

Homosexuality, ISIS, you name it, is manifestations of demon possession.
Individuals, organizations, governments doing abnormal things is demon possession.

LITTLE TIME
Satan is let loosed on the earth, and we are warned that in the last days it will be perilous times.
Doctrines of demons, Governing of demons, Influencing of demons, Possessing of demons.
Satan is angry at man because he knows he's got little time left.
2000 years ago the demons were already nerved wrecked when Christ came, and feared that they were to be punished before their time. Don't take Satan lightly, he's a very angry devil, he hates us and will do all in his power to destroy us.
He cannot take it that "God so loved mankind", it just pisses him off.