Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?
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[SIZE=+3]The Role of the Catholic Church in Yugoslavia's Holocaust
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I believe that the Man of Sin is none other than Satan himself come as a man. If you study Ezek 27-28 you will see Satan is called the "King of Tyre." Tyre historically is Lebanon which of course is to the north of Israel. Satan comes as a King who claims to be the God, but the real God makes clear that Satan will be a man and will be killed as a man.
The first beast IMO is the radical Islamic army of the North that the Man of Sin will one day lead. I believe ISIS could evolve into this Beast.
Correct, the Son of Perdition, is the only person condemned to hell already. This "son" is Satan as a Man. I really believe this and it totally fits. Satan wants to be God. God had a son who became a man and died on earth. I believe the same will happen to Satan only Satan will not rise again in 3 days as Christ did.
I agree completely. I love your phrase "Islam - hidden in plain sight." This is so true. So many fellow Christians cannot see ISLAM as the Great EVIL, the Great Satanic False Religion as it is hiding right in front of them.
This "another man" will be Satan himself. When he comes, he comes suddenly and with so much attention that the whole world will see and follow after him. Many, many people will think he is their Christ or their Muhammad or whatever they have been waiting for. But they will be deceived. I believe he will have more of a Muslim slant than a Christian slant. He will take over and lead the Beast from the Sea and cause those to "worship" (Serve is a better word) the BEAST from the Sea.
Mystery Babylon is here. It is ISLAM. It is the last in a line of false Satan sun worshiping that goes all the way back to original Babylon and even Egypt. Egypt was the first Beast and the first to enslave Israel. Once God delivered the Children of Israel from Egypt, he took them into the "wilderness" of Saudi Arabia. This is the same exact wilderness where MECCA sits - that Great Harlot City. It was here in Saudi Arabia where Mt. Sinai is located where the 10 Commandments were given and where the Golden Calf was worshiped.
The very first and most important commandment is given here in Exodus 20:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]“You shall have no other gods before Me.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; [SUP]5 [/SUP]you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me...
ISLAM worships the Kaaba Stone at Mecca. The Kaaba stone is an image (meteor) fallen from the sky. ISLAM bows down and serves this false image, just as the original Babylonians worshiped an image.
The first beast IMO is the radical Islamic army of the North that the Man of Sin will one day lead. I believe ISIS could evolve into this Beast.
Correct, the Son of Perdition, is the only person condemned to hell already. This "son" is Satan as a Man. I really believe this and it totally fits. Satan wants to be God. God had a son who became a man and died on earth. I believe the same will happen to Satan only Satan will not rise again in 3 days as Christ did.
I agree completely. I love your phrase "Islam - hidden in plain sight." This is so true. So many fellow Christians cannot see ISLAM as the Great EVIL, the Great Satanic False Religion as it is hiding right in front of them.
This "another man" will be Satan himself. When he comes, he comes suddenly and with so much attention that the whole world will see and follow after him. Many, many people will think he is their Christ or their Muhammad or whatever they have been waiting for. But they will be deceived. I believe he will have more of a Muslim slant than a Christian slant. He will take over and lead the Beast from the Sea and cause those to "worship" (Serve is a better word) the BEAST from the Sea.
Mystery Babylon is here. It is ISLAM. It is the last in a line of false Satan sun worshiping that goes all the way back to original Babylon and even Egypt. Egypt was the first Beast and the first to enslave Israel. Once God delivered the Children of Israel from Egypt, he took them into the "wilderness" of Saudi Arabia. This is the same exact wilderness where MECCA sits - that Great Harlot City. It was here in Saudi Arabia where Mt. Sinai is located where the 10 Commandments were given and where the Golden Calf was worshiped.
The very first and most important commandment is given here in Exodus 20:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]“You shall have no other gods before Me.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; [SUP]5 [/SUP]you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me...
ISLAM worships the Kaaba Stone at Mecca. The Kaaba stone is an image (meteor) fallen from the sky. ISLAM bows down and serves this false image, just as the original Babylonians worshiped an image.
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The Nazi collaborator Archbishop Stepinac (right) and the Vatican representative to fascist Croatia, Abbot Marcone (left). Croatia has recently renamed a village in Krajina after Stepinac. Marcone was Pavelic's confessor and Stepinac was convicted of war crimes after the war. Several members of his clergy were involved in the genocide at Jasenovac - notably the Franciscan priest, Pater Miroslav Filipovic, who was one of the commandants
of the camp.
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1) The catholic church and its Pope has always been consulted to by world leaders before making major decisions, and if the pope follows the man of sin so will thousands of deceived people.
And the scripture in Daniel 9:26 tells us where the man of sin will rise out of !!!
2) The bible does not actually say how long this system will be in power, as it only gives key points on what happens within this system. As the man of sin signing the 7 year treaty (covenant), and then breaking it after the first 3 1/2 years. To me that would mean the system is already in place at the signing, and then the last 3 1/2 years is when the man of sin issues out his persecution and murder of thousands of Christians and Jews.
3) I would not say the pope has political power, but influences the powers to be to do what they do as pretty much all world leaders consult with him in negotiations and so on.....
So like I said previously if he gives authority and follows the man of sin, then thousands of deceived people within the Catholic church will follow suite. Then the man of sin will have a conflict of interest between the catholicism and Islamic religions so he will have to destroy Mecca in Saudi Arabia to destroy the Islamic mentality. The mother capital of their religion !!!
All things you trying to put upon Rome (=pope) does not stand revelation. New Babylon is not only the Harlot (church) but a great city reigned over kings of earth.
But Rome and Italy is not a mighty super Empair (last thousands years) and never will be such again.
No need to be great psyhologist to see in the revelation John speaks about a city which was unknown (non-existed) in his times.
The only existed supercountry which has true church in the same capital is russia. And moscows (russian) church has becomed Harlot on service of state long time ago.
In cursed russia more than 300 years ago all the priests was forced (by the official state laws) to report authorities about significant sins (spoken in confession). Whole the church despite apostolic rule was subdjugated to state.
Russian church is true Harlot, while it is true church (not corrupted by heresy).
But about the pope, it was known = predicted by apostols that last pope (bishop of Rome Peter II) will be Elijah prophet.
The message to Angel of Philadelphea is addressed to the last pope. And the remnant of Israel (144 000 of the sealed hebrews) will be gathered around the last pope.
Rome is not Babylon, neither Roman church is the Harlot.
Roman Church will be the last fortress struggling against antichrist.
But Rome and Italy is not a mighty super Empair (last thousands years) and never will be such again.
No need to be great psyhologist to see in the revelation John speaks about a city which was unknown (non-existed) in his times.
The only existed supercountry which has true church in the same capital is russia. And moscows (russian) church has becomed Harlot on service of state long time ago.
In cursed russia more than 300 years ago all the priests was forced (by the official state laws) to report authorities about significant sins (spoken in confession). Whole the church despite apostolic rule was subdjugated to state.
Russian church is true Harlot, while it is true church (not corrupted by heresy).
But about the pope, it was known = predicted by apostols that last pope (bishop of Rome Peter II) will be Elijah prophet.
The message to Angel of Philadelphea is addressed to the last pope. And the remnant of Israel (144 000 of the sealed hebrews) will be gathered around the last pope.
Rome is not Babylon, neither Roman church is the Harlot.
Roman Church will be the last fortress struggling against antichrist.
K
Russia does not fit at all as it is described under different terms in the bible; as part of the Persian empire, Magog, and as I and others believe the Bear. The antichrist and his system gets destroyed at the return of Christ, yet Magog (Russia) still exists after the 1.000 year millennial reign. And satan deceives them to come up against Christ after he is released after the 1,000 years.
The same spirit that lead Catholic in the past is still in the present and future. The spirit of Antichrist.
You can ignore the past history. Say you apply for loan, the bank will look at you credit history. The teaching about Mary is not change, the teaching about Pope as representative of Christ is not change, They worship idol and it is not change, how you said there is repentance happen?
Recently, 1994 in Rwanda, the catholic leader lead massacre again Anglican. Prove that the spirit of Antichrist still operate there.
Remember Muslim leader doesn't has a horn like lamb, and speak like dragon, deceiver.
Muslim is in the plan of salvation. it is dragon voice.
Atheist go to heaven, it is dragon voice.
Muslim leader has dragon voice but doesn't has 2 horn like lamb/like Christ.
You can ignore the past history. Say you apply for loan, the bank will look at you credit history. The teaching about Mary is not change, the teaching about Pope as representative of Christ is not change, They worship idol and it is not change, how you said there is repentance happen?
Recently, 1994 in Rwanda, the catholic leader lead massacre again Anglican. Prove that the spirit of Antichrist still operate there.
Remember Muslim leader doesn't has a horn like lamb, and speak like dragon, deceiver.
Muslim is in the plan of salvation. it is dragon voice.
Atheist go to heaven, it is dragon voice.
Muslim leader has dragon voice but doesn't has 2 horn like lamb/like Christ.
1. I heard Jesuit infiltrate on almost all nation in the world. Some said US congress secretly run by Vatican. Federal reserve basically own by Jesuit, hide behind Rotschild Family. Print money from thin air and US tax payer pay the interest. Karen Hudes, world bank whistle blower said follow the money and you see who is behind.
She follow the money, and said 60 % US federal tax income goes to Vatican. That why US debt is staggering. Vatican doesn't love his follower, I believe about 40% US people is catholic, mean Vatican rob her own members.
2. I also agree with point 2. Antichrist has been there since apostle John era.
3. On this I not sure, Vatican is a country. So Pope has political power and religious leader in the same time.
I believe Pope is not only consulted most leader on the world, but more likely he dictate.
I have seen video recently that the real reason Nato kill Muammar Gadafi is he has his own banking system, not follow Globalist and I heard Globalist lead secretly by Vatican.
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I believe second beast is Antichrist,
Because 1 in first John said Antichrist come from within, but not one of us. mean look like christian but not.
2. revelation 13 said second beast has 2 horn like a lamb/christ but speak like a dragon/not christ.
Reve 13 matches First John.
And first John describe Antichrist. mean second beast is Antichrist.
K
We are not far off on what we think and believe when it comes to this issue, as I will still stick with the second beast of Revelation 13 being the false prophet, which is separate being then the antichrist/man of sin.
The reason for this is because the 1st beast (Revelation 13:1-8) shows the antichrist already there among it in Revelation 13:5;
This is the antichrist a.k.a. man of sin
[h=1]Revelation 13:5-8[/h]5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[a] for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,[b]tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Here in this passage above is all part of the first beast, and corresponds with 2 Thessalonians 2:4. The second beast starting at Revelation 13:11 (false prophet) exercises what authority he was given by the first beast (man of sin), and forces the world to worship him showing signs and wonders, and that this beast is a religious leader and the first was the political leader.
I am not aware of any prophesy dealing with the Catholic role in the Yugoslav holocaust. If there is one, please share it with me.
Actually Dan 9:26 does not tell us where the Man of Sin arises from. Here's the passage, please point out where the location of the Man of Sin's origin is given.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
The above passage is not very conclusive. There is much debate over this passage. Many think it has already happened. Some think it deals with the end days in Jerusalem. I'm undecided on whether or not the 70th week of Daniel is past or future. I do believe the Man of Sin will enter the Holy Land because Daniel 11 is more clear. However, the order of events don't appear to align with a proclamation of him being "GOD" while in the Holy Land.
Dan 11:29 speaks of the King of the North going south but then verse 30 has him retreating north again. He is showing regard for those who forsake the holy covenant meaning those who do not respect that God gave the Land to the Jews which of course would be Muslims. We then see in verse 31 that he musters forces and they defile the sanctuary fortress, but what sanctuary fortress? We aren't told he is in the Glorious Land until verse 41.
Actually Dan 9:26 does not tell us where the Man of Sin arises from. Here's the passage, please point out where the location of the Man of Sin's origin is given.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
The above passage is not very conclusive. There is much debate over this passage. Many think it has already happened. Some think it deals with the end days in Jerusalem. I'm undecided on whether or not the 70th week of Daniel is past or future. I do believe the Man of Sin will enter the Holy Land because Daniel 11 is more clear. However, the order of events don't appear to align with a proclamation of him being "GOD" while in the Holy Land.
Dan 11:29 speaks of the King of the North going south but then verse 30 has him retreating north again. He is showing regard for those who forsake the holy covenant meaning those who do not respect that God gave the Land to the Jews which of course would be Muslims. We then see in verse 31 that he musters forces and they defile the sanctuary fortress, but what sanctuary fortress? We aren't told he is in the Glorious Land until verse 41.
On most part I agree with you brother, but in this look like we have different view.
First beast have authority for 42 months, it mean when second beast in power, the first beast not in power anymore.
Second beast in power for 42 months as well.
I believe in his(second beast) term, the mark of the beast in action, every body that doesn't have the mark of the beast not able to buy or sale.
To my knowledge, the mark of the beast in action on when the Antichrist rule the world.
Yes Antichrist exist since apostle John era. But will not rule the world openly till the last 3,5 years.
And the second beast in office on the last 3.5 years,
Mean second beast is the Antichrist, that has 2 horn like a lamb/Christ but deceiver like dragon.
First beast have authority for 42 months, it mean when second beast in power, the first beast not in power anymore.
Second beast in power for 42 months as well.
I believe in his(second beast) term, the mark of the beast in action, every body that doesn't have the mark of the beast not able to buy or sale.
To my knowledge, the mark of the beast in action on when the Antichrist rule the world.
Yes Antichrist exist since apostle John era. But will not rule the world openly till the last 3,5 years.
And the second beast in office on the last 3.5 years,
Mean second beast is the Antichrist, that has 2 horn like a lamb/Christ but deceiver like dragon.
S
You guys should look up what the religion of the Chaldeans was (the Babylonian wise men).
Maybe once you see the beliefs of their religion, you will make some right connections.
The key words for the religion are
"illumination" (a person becoming a god among mortals, through birthright, and/or ceremony, and/or meditation),
"dualism" (equal opposing forces in the world),
"signs of heaven" (astrology),
"Societal and economic salvation" (that forced morals and forced charity saves nations)
"right of governance" (only those who are members of the enlightenment have the right to rule), - this is also known as "exclusive physical salvation",
and "universal spiritual salvation" (a select few of excessive evil will be destroyed entirely, but the rest are saved through penance in life, or in death).
Who follow the religion of the Babylonians?
Basically every religion. Following Christ alone breaks the mold.
You want specifics of who follows? Judaism, Islam, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Buddhism, Hinduism....
Maybe once you see the beliefs of their religion, you will make some right connections.
The key words for the religion are
"illumination" (a person becoming a god among mortals, through birthright, and/or ceremony, and/or meditation),
"dualism" (equal opposing forces in the world),
"signs of heaven" (astrology),
"Societal and economic salvation" (that forced morals and forced charity saves nations)
"right of governance" (only those who are members of the enlightenment have the right to rule), - this is also known as "exclusive physical salvation",
and "universal spiritual salvation" (a select few of excessive evil will be destroyed entirely, but the rest are saved through penance in life, or in death).
Who follow the religion of the Babylonians?
Basically every religion. Following Christ alone breaks the mold.
You want specifics of who follows? Judaism, Islam, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Buddhism, Hinduism....
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Basically, any religion that has a focus on laity as being seperate from preisthood and ministry,
is based on Zoroastrianism, which is the name of the religion of Babylon.
They turn to their popes, their priests, their rabbis, their gurus, their imams, their ayatollahs, their brahmans, their sangha, their watchtower, their wards... etc, to interpret spiritual things for them.
We have been given the Spirit of Christ, and have been called unto priesthood, not laity.
Babylon is bigger than you guys think. And it is far more dangerous than any one of her daughters on their own.
She will soon come out of the wilderness, united on the back of a ten nation beast.
is based on Zoroastrianism, which is the name of the religion of Babylon.
They turn to their popes, their priests, their rabbis, their gurus, their imams, their ayatollahs, their brahmans, their sangha, their watchtower, their wards... etc, to interpret spiritual things for them.
We have been given the Spirit of Christ, and have been called unto priesthood, not laity.
Babylon is bigger than you guys think. And it is far more dangerous than any one of her daughters on their own.
She will soon come out of the wilderness, united on the back of a ten nation beast.
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I have suspicions that organizations like the Jesuits, Illuminati, and Masons have ties to the coming together of this superpower, especially due to the political nature of their organizations and the "secret/hidden" (wilderness) aspect of their groups, and also the belief system that each adopts.
But saying such things makes me sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist Jesse Ventura type person.
Also, thinking about such things is a distraction to the true calling. And talking about it is kinda like spreading "bad news".
Better to just keep head down and press forward in righteousness and spreading the Word that there is Good News.
But saying such things makes me sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist Jesse Ventura type person.
Also, thinking about such things is a distraction to the true calling. And talking about it is kinda like spreading "bad news".
Better to just keep head down and press forward in righteousness and spreading the Word that there is Good News.
J
You are not crazy in the least for thinking such things. God has His workers on the ground and the devil has his. You'd be crazy to think otherwise. But you are so right, there are too many people who aren't on the lifeboats to be worrying about the actions of evil men trying to gather riches on this sinking ship.