Myths and Realities about Easter

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ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I am not looking to find fault! I am only suggesting that the pagan associations with the name Easter may somewhat compromise our witness or give the Church an image of worldliness. I am suggesting that calling the same day Resurrection Sunday removes all connection with pagan fertility symbols and avoids confusion.

My only concern is concerning the meaning of BE YE SEPARATE.
 

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ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I an suggesting that since the name Easter is associated with a Pagan deity and with fertility symbols; the name might compromise the Church's witness or give an image of worldliness. By calling the day either Resurrection Sunday or Pascah,
we can obey the commandment to BE YE SEPARATE.

The principle here is that when ancient Israel tried to mix paganism with worship of God; God was NOT PLEASED.

If a pagan name was attached to our commemoration of the Resurrection while we were ignorant of its origin; God will likely not be angry. If we knowingly associate ourselves with any vestige of Paganism and persist in it; we cannot expect God to be pleased.
 

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Excerpted from Wikipedia on Aphrodite:

a joint festival of Aphrodite and her partner Adonis, is celebrated on the first full moon following the Northern spring equinox, often roughly as the same week the Christian festival of Easter is celebrated. The fourth day of each month is considered a sacred day of both Aphrodite and her son Eros


This documents my Statement that Constantine knowingly associated πασΧὰ 'Easter' with a feast for Aphrodite AKA Astarte AKA Ishtar.[SUP]
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...or non-existent.





What still has yet to be demonstrated is how Ishtar is in any way associated with the origins of Easter. .
what does easter have to do with Gods holydays, has yet to be demonstrated by followers of it.

3 days 3 nights was the only sign for an evil generation,
anything else make Jesus a false prophet and all would be doomed.

Jesus said to keep the feast
 

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what does easter have to do with Gods holydays, has yet to be demonstrated by followers of it.

3 days 3 nights was the only sign for an evil generation,
anything else make Jesus a false prophet and all would be doomed.

Jesus said to keep the feast
Cut right to the chase. There is a lot of extraneous information in this thread but you found the bottom line.
 

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Maybe you should use some historical and cultural context. How was a day defined by the writers of the Gospels? That's a start.
or maybe we should look at before time,

in the beggining was evening(night) then morning(daytime) a Day


you can use some historical and cultural context, i will believe the creater.
 

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apparently you don't know that this isn't true...

i address this exact misconception in my other thread... http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/89553-good-friday-easter-sunday.html

new days began at sunset...but the previous day -ended- at sunset...the sunset that began the seder was the -end- of the fourteenth of nisan...and the beginning of the -fifteenth- of nisan...the day when jesus died...

and actually you participated in that thread...so apparently you -do- know that what you said isn't true...

but since your purpose on this site is to deceive...your knowingly saying untrue things isn't very surprising...
I read that post and have to say it was wrong.

the problem is by the time Jesus , passover and 7 days of U.B. was all clumped together.

and is very confusing in the new testement, i would recommend going back to origanel feasts to see.


i would also ask forgiveness for my bad grammer, thanks
 

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Jesus died on Thursday? No. No, He died on Friday. And raised to new life on the Sunday.
Uh, you got some scripture for that?

Three days and three nights from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning before sunrise?

Count that for me please.
 

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(1) I still don't see the connection to Easter.

(2) Herodotus does what many Greeks did - he syncretizes Greek deities to tribal deities elsewhere. But we should be careful not to imagine that Greek myths about gods were identical to other tribal myths about similar gods. Herodotus also identifies Aphrodite with Nephthys and Alilat. Greek myths about Aphrodite were not identical to Babylonian myths about Ishtar or Canaanite myths about Astarte. Just because Herodotus may syncretize Aphrodite with Ishtar does not mean that the two were actually identical. Nor should we imagine that a deity local to some region retained a stagnant identity through time. Ishtar in early Sumer and Mesopotamia may be different from Ishtar in later Babylonian periods. Nor do Aphrodite's identity and myths remain stagnant through time in Greece.

In any case, on this thread, we're interested in Ishtar specifically and her supposed origins for the Christian Easter.




-Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, K. Van Der Toorn
My interest was in correcting inaccuracies in Rachel's post, on the assumption that readers of that post, and perhaps Rachel, herself, might be interested in an accurate presentation.

Easter does not directly correlate with Ishtar. (correct) Easter does directly correlate with Oester(n); a fertility Goddess, known as goddess of the East. The fertility goddess of the East can only be Astarte.

The Jewish Encyclopedia, a work of reputable scholarship definitely identifies Ishtar and Astarte as identical:

The unedited full-text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia
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ASTARTE WORSHIP AMONG THE HEBREWS:
Astarte as a Sphynx.(From Prisse d'Avennes, "Histoire de l'Art Egyptien.")

Astarte is the Phenician name of the primitive Semitic mother-goddess, out of which the most important of the Semitic deities were developed. She was known in Arabia as "Athtar," and inBabylonia as "Ishtar." Her name appears in the Old Testament (I Kings xi. 5; II Kings xxiii. 13) as "Ashtoreth," a distortion of "Ashtart," made after the analogy of "Bosheth" (compare Jastrow, in "Jour. Bibl. Lit." xiii. 28, note). Solomon is said to have built a high place to her near Jerusalem, which was removed during Josiah's reform (I Kings xi. 5, 33; II Kings xxiii. 12). Astarte is called in these passages "the abomination of the Zidonians," because, as the inscriptions of Tabnith and Eshmunazer show, she was the chief divinity of that city (see Hoffmann, "Phönizische Inschriften," 57, and "C. I. S." No. 3). In Phenician countries she was the female counterpart of Baal, and was no doubt worshiped with him by those Hebrews who at times became his devotees. This is proved by the fact that Baalim and Ashtaroth are used several times (Judges x. 6; I Sam. vii. 4, xii. 10) like the Assyrian "ilani u ishtarati" for "gods and goddesses."
Astarte as the Goddess of Love.(From Ball, "Light from the East.")

Astarte, wherever worshiped, was a goddess of fertility and sexual love. A trace of this among the Hebrews appears in Deut. vii. 13, xxviii. 4, 18, where the lambs are called the "ashtarot" of the flock. It is usually assumed that Astarte Worship was always a foreign cult among the Hebrews; but analogy with the development of other Semitic deities, like the Phenician Baal, would lead to the supposition that Astarte Worship before the days of the Prophets may have somewhat prejudiced that of Yhwh. The problem is a difficult one, the references to the cult in the Old Testament being so few and so vague. The reaction against Baal and Astarte, inaugurated by the Prophets, had a profound effect upon the moral life of Israel (see "Jour. Bibl. Lit." x. 72-91; Budde, "Religion of Israel," ch. ii-v.). Jeremiah (vii. 18; xliv. 17, 18) and Ezekiel (viii. 14) attest various forms of this worship in their time, which may refer to a direct importation from Babylonia. The sacrificial use of swine's blood (Isa. lxv. 4, lxvi. 3) may be a reference to a form of the cult similar to that known in Cyprus, where swine were sacred to Astarte ("Jour. Bibl. Lit." x. 74, and "Hebraica," x. 45, 47).
Astarte with Dove.(From a Phenician terra-cotta in the Musee du Louvre, Paris.)
Bibliography:

E. Meyer, Astarte, in Roscher, Lexikon der Griechischen und Römischen Mythologie;
Barton, in Hebraica, ix. 133-165, x. 1-74;
idem, Semitic Origins, ch. vii.;
W. Robertson Smith, Religion of the Semites, Index.

See also Ashtoreth.

Astarte has been associated with both Aphrodite/Venus, and with Artemis/Diana:

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line drawing of a gold pendant from 1500 BCE with Goddess Astarte and animals
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possibly Astarte. Ugarit. 1500-1200/1150 BCE.
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Astarte
Goddess of Fertility, Beauty, War, and Love

Known in the ancient Levant as Ashtart and in the Hebrew Bible as Ashtereth, the beautiful Astarte may owe many of her characteristics to Mesopotamian Ishtar, as the similarity in their names proclaims. Like Ishtar, Astarte seems to have had strong connections with both war and love/sexuality. In historical times, she received offerings in ancient Ugarit in Syria; her name appears forty-six times in texts from that city. One of her main centers was Byblos, where she was identified with Egyptian goddesses Hathor and Isis. In the second millennium BCE, Astarte was, like Anat, a war goddess of the Egyptians (Patai 1990:56). Large numbers of ancient Israelites revered her, and versions of her name occur at least nine times in the Hebrew Bible. She was also an important deity of the Phoenician towns of Tyre and Sidon, whence she and her veneration spread with Phoenician merchants throughout the Mediterranean (Patai 1990:55-66).

The Ugaritic poems present Astarte as a model of beauty and usually associate her closely with Baal, the storm god, for she consistently supports his cause (Coogan 1978:61, 65, 74, 89, 116). On at least five occasions the mythic material pairs her with Anat, perhaps an indication that the two goddesses were already beginning to meld into one another. Yet, since Astarte's name occurs quite often in offering and deity lists, it is clear that she had an important, if not central place in ritual and sacrifice (Olmo Lete 1999:71). An enormous number of female images originated from the excavations at Ugarit, and scholars have labeled many of them as Astarte. However, to date, no one has been able to demonstrate that they actually represent Astarte.

The Hebrew form of Astarte's name ashtereth, which occurs only three times in the Hebrew Bible, resulted from the deliberate replacement of the vowels in the last two syllables of the goddess's name with the vowels from the Hebrew noun bosheth, "shame" (Day 2000:128; Buttrick 1990:I,255). According to Patai, the "original meaning of the name Astarte was 'womb' or 'that which issues from the womb,'" an appropriate title for a fertility goddess (Patai 1990:57). In statements about Syro-Canaanite religion, the Biblical texts often couple the ashteroth, "the Astartes," with the baalim, "the Baals," an indication that the writers knew that many local versions of these deities existed. However, this repeated connection of Astarte and Baal has led some scholars to conclude that the Hebrew Bible understood Astarte to be Baal's consort (Day 2000:131; Patai 1990:57). If she were his consort, she too should have associations with fertility.

Astarte's name also occurs in the Hebrew Bible as part of a place name, Ashteroth Karnaim, karnaim meaning "of the two horns" (Genesis 14:5). Ashteroth Karnaim, perhaps the "full old name of the city," (Patai 1990:57), was probably a temple center where Astarte was worshipped as a two-horned deity. In support of this suggestion, Patai points to a mold from a shrine in Israel depicting a goddess with two horns. Dated between the eighteenth and the sixteenth centuries BCE, the mold shows a naked goddess in a high, conical hat. She has two horns, one on each side of her head (Patai 1990:57, Plate 9).

Two passages in the Book of Jeremiah (7.17-18 and 44.15-19) refer to ancient Israelite worship of a "Queen of Heaven." These passages provide a very rare glimpse into ritual practices of Judahite popular religion. Around the turn of the seventh century BCE, Jeremiah preaches to Israelite exiles in Egypt. To his horror whole families, with women in the lead, were making offerings to a goddess. They poured libations, built fires, and baked "cakes [kawwanim] for the Queen of Heaven" (Jer.7:18). The scholarly literature presents a number of theories about who the "Queen of Heaven" was (Toorn 1998:83-88; Patai 1990:64). However, since "Queen of Heaven" was one of the many titles of the Mesopotamian goddess Inanna-Ishtar, for whom worshippers also made cakes [kamanu], it is possible that the goddess in the Jeremiah passages was Astarte (Toorn and Horst 1999:678-679; Patai 1990:64).
line drawing of a clay cult stand from the 9th century GCE with Goddess Astarte and animals
Clay cult stand.
Taanach, Israel.
Late ninth century BCE.
Drawing © Stéphane Beaulieu, after Gadon 1989:174, #97. Used with permission. (larger image)

An elaborate terra-cotta cult stand from ancient Taanach in northern Israel may have been used in the worship of Astarte (Gadon 1989:174, Figure 97). Just over twenty-one inches in height, it dates to the tenth century BCE, during the period when the Israelites were establishing themselves in the land (Hadley 2000:169). In the center of the bottom level, as if underpinning everything, stands a naked goddess controlling two flanking lions. The second register contains an empty, door-like space flanked by winged sphinxes wearing goddess locks. On the next level, two ibexes nibble at a sacred tree, a scene which is flanked by lions. The top register is occupied by a quadruped, either a bull calf or a young horse, which strides between two door posts. Above it is a rayed or winged sun disc.

Explanations of the stand vary from understanding it as totally Canaanite to its being an Israelite cult object dedicated to the Israelite deity and a consort (Hadley 2000:169-176). There is, however, general agreement that the piece models a temple to the deities or deity depicted on the façade, with the tiers displaying temple scenes (Hadley 2000:171-172).

Interpreted strictly as a Canaanite cult object, the Taanach stand depicts either important Canaanite deities, female and male; or goddesses alone; or even a single goddess. In these views, the bottom level shows the naked goddess and the third level from the bottom her symbol, the sacred tree. The empty space on level two is a doorway into the shrine, and the door posts on level four frame either a temple entrance or the "holy of holies" (Hadley 2000:172). Between these posts, either the Canaanite god El or the storm god Baal Hadad manifests himself in the form of a bull calf (Hadley 2000:172-173).

Since a goddess is central to the symbolism of the Taanach stand, I would argue that a goddess is there also in the door on level two and the animal on level four. The symbolism of the cult stand suggests that this Levantine goddess is very similar to the Mesopotamian great goddess Inanna-Ishtar (Stuckey 2001:92-94). The female figure on the bottom register underpins everything; she is the foundation of all and so queen of heaven, earth, and underworld. She is both life and death, the latter present in the menacing lions which she controls. Above her, there looms both the door to her shrine and the mystic entrance to her realm both on earth and in the underworld. More important, it is the symbol of her essential nature: like Sumerian Inanna, she embodies change (Stuckey 2001:95). To enter into her realm is to undergo transformation, whether by dying on the battlefield, being born, falling in love, engaging in sexual activity, or leaving the ordinary and, through ritual, entering sacred time and space.

The tree on level three is yet another statement of the goddess's presence, and, like her, it has its branches in the heavens, its trunk on the earth, and its roots reaching toward the world beneath the earth (Stuckey 2001:101). The animal on the fourth level, which I think may be a bull calf, probably represents her consort, the storm god, whose function it is to bring rain to fertilize the earth so that the life cycle can go on. Given what we know about Canaanite religion in the first millennium BCE, I would assign the Taanach stand tentatively to Astarte, who seems, at that time, to have been consort of the storm god Baal (Patai 1990:56-57).

Devotion to Astarte was prolonged by the Phoenicians, descendants of the Canaanites, who occupied a small territory on the coast of Syria and Lebanon in the first millennium BCE. From cities such as Byblos, Tyre, and Sidon, they set forth by sea on long trading expeditions, and, venturing far into the western Mediterranean, they even reached Cornwall in England (Tubbs 1998:140-141). Wherever they went, they established trading posts and founded colonies, the best known of which was in North Africa: Carthage, the rival of Rome in the third and second centuries BCE (Tubbs 1998:142-145). Of course they took their deities with them. Hence, Astarte became much more important in the first millennium BCE than she had been in the second millennium BCE (Patai 1990:56-57). In Cyprus, where the Phoenicians arrived in the ninth century BCE, they built temples to Astarte, and it was on Cyprus that she was first identified with Greek Aphrodite (Friedrich 1978).

The Greco-Roman period saw another great Levantine goddess called Atargatis being worshipped in the Levant and elsewhere. Her name seems to have come from a combining of the names Astarte and Anat. On the other hand, it may have resulted from a fusion of the names of all three Levantine great goddesses (Toorn and Horst 1999: 111). To the second century of our era is dated a Greek account of the "Syrian" Goddess"; the work is traditionally attributed to the satirical writer Lucian. Though the writer gives Greek names for the deities he describes, the goddess of the title is clearly Atargatis (Lucian 1976:4). The worship of Atargatis spread from Syria across the Mediterranean and lasted well into the third century of our era (Godwin 1981:150-152, 158 #124). Thus, long after she lost her independent identity, Astarte lived on in a composite "Syrian Goddess."

References & Suggested Readings
+ Buttrick, George A., ed. 1991. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible: An Illustrated Encyclopedia. Nashville, TN: Abingdon
Coogan, Michael D., tr. 1978. Stories from Ancient Canaan. Louisville, KY: Westminster
+ Day, John 2000. Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan. Sheffield, UK: Sheffield Academic. Journal for the Study of the Old Testament, Supplement Series 265
+ Friedrich, Paul 1978. The Meaning of Aphrodite. Chicago: University of Chicago
+ Gadon, Elinor 1989. The Once and Future Goddess: A Symbol for Our Time. San Francisco: Harper and Row
+ Godwin, Joscelyn 1981. Mystery Religions in the Ancient World. London: Thames and Hudson
+ Hadley, Judith M. 2000. The Cult of Asherah in Ancient Israel and Judah: Evidence for a Hebrew Goddess. Cambridge: Cambridge University
+ Houtman, C. 1999. "Queen of Heaven...," 678-680 in Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible DDD. Second Extensively Revised Edition, ed. K. van der Toorn, B. Becking, and P. W. van der Horst. Leiden: Brill
+ Lucian 1976. The Syrian Goddess (De Dea Syria) Attributed to Lucian. Ed. H.W. Attridge and R.A. Oden. Missoula, MT: Society of Biblical Literature/Scholars
+ Olmo Lete, Gregorio del 1999. Canaanite Religion According to the Liturgical Texts of Ugarit. Bethesda, MD: CDL
+ Patai, Raphael 1990 (1978). The Hebrew Goddess: Third Enlarged Edition. Detroit, MI: Wayne State University
+ Stuckey, Johanna H. 2002. ""The Great Goddesses of the Levant," Bulletin of the Canadian Society for Mesopotamian Studies 37:27-48
+ Stuckey, Johanna H. 2001. "`Inanna and the Huluppu Tree': An Ancient Mesopotamian Narrative of Goddess Demotion," 91-105, in Feminist Poetics of the Sacred: Creative Suspicions, ed. F. Devlin-Glass and L. McCredden. Oxford: Oxford University
+ Toorn, Karel van der 1998. "Goddesses in Early Israelite Religion," 83-97, in Ancient Goddesses: The Myths and the Evidence, ed. L. Goodison and C. Morris. Madison, WI: University of Wisconsin
+ Tubb, Jonathan N. 1998. Canaanites. Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma
+ Wyatt, Nicolas 1999. "Astarte...," 109-114, in Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, ed. K. van der Toorn, B. Becking, and P.W. van der Horst. Leiden: Brill
 

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For other uses, see Astarte (disambiguation).
Deities of the ancient Near East
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Adonis
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Marduk
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Nergal
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Astarte riding in a chariot with four branches protruding from roof, on the reverse of a Julia Maesa coin from Sidon
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Astarte /æ'st?rti/ (Ancient Greek: ?st??t?, "Astárte") is the Greek name of the Mesopotamian (i.e. Assyrian, Akkadian, Babylonian) Semitic goddess Ishtar known throughout the Near East and Eastern Mediterranean from the early Bronze Age to Classical times. It is one of a number of names associated with the chief goddess or female divinity of those peoples.[1] She is found as Ugaritic ?????????? (??trt, "?A?tart" or "?Athtart"); in Phoenician as ?????????? (?štrt, "Ashtart"); in Hebrew ????? (Ashtoret, singular, or Ashtarot, plural); and appears originally in Akkadian as ???????? D, the grammatically masculine name of the goddess Ishtar; the form Astartu is used to describe her age.[2] The name appears also in Etruscan as ?????? ?????????? Uni-Astre (Pyrgi Tablets), Ishtar or Ashtart.

Contents

1 Overview
2 Astarte in Ugarit
3 Astarte in Egypt
4 Astarte in Phoenicia
5 Astarte in Judah
6 Other associations
7 See also
8 References
9 External links

Overview

Astarte was connected with fertility, sexuality, and war. Her symbols were the lion, the horse, the sphinx, the dove, and a star within a circle indicating the planet Venus. Pictorial representations often show her naked. She has been known as the deified evening star.[2]

Astarte was worshipped in Syria and Canaan beginning in the first millennium BC and was first mentioned in texts from Ugarit. She came from the same Semitic origins as the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar, and an Ugaritic text specifically equates her with Ishtar. Her worship spread to Cyprus, where she may have been merged with an ancient Cypriot goddess. This merged Cypriot goddess may have been adopted into the Greek pantheon in Mycenaean and Dark Age times. Stephanie Budin, however, argues that Astarte's character was less erotic and more warlike than Ishtar originally was, perhaps because she was influenced by the Canaanite goddess Anat, and that therefore Ishtar, not Astarte, was the direct forerunner of the Cypriot goddess. Greeks in classical, Hellenistic, and Roman times occasionally equated Aphrodite with Astarte and many other Near Eastern goddesses, in keeping with their frequent practice of syncretizing other deities with their own.[3]

Other major centers of Astarte's worship were the Phoenician city states of Sidon, Tyre, and Byblos. Coins from Sidon portray a chariot in which a globe appears, presumably a stone representing Astarte. "She was often depicted on Sidonian coins as standing on the prow of a galley, leaning forward with right hand outstretched, being thus the original of all figureheads for sailing ships." [4] In Sidon, she shared a temple with Eshmun. Coins from Beirut show Poseidon, Astarte, and Eshmun worshipped together.
Lady of Galera

Other faith centers were Cythera, Malta, and Eryx in Sicily from which she became known to the Romans as Venus Erycina. A bilingual inscription on the Pyrgi Tablets dating to about 500 BC found near Caere in Etruria equates Astarte with Etruscan Uni-Astre, that is, Juno. At Carthage Astarte was worshipped alongside the goddess Tanit.

Donald Harden in The Phoenicians discusses a statuette of Astarte from Tutugi (Galera) near Granada in Spain dating to the 7th or 6th century BC in which Astarte sits on a throne flanked by sphinxes holding a bowl beneath her pierced breasts. A hollow in the statue would have been filled with milk through the head and gentle heating would have melted wax plugging the holes in her breasts, producing an apparent miracle when the milk emerged.

The Aramean goddess Atargatis (Semitic form ?Atar?atah) may originally have been equated with Astarte, but the first element of the name Atargatis appears to be related to the Ugaritic form of Asherah's name: Athirat.
Astarte in Ugarit

Astarte appears in Ugaritic texts under the name ?Athtart', but is little mentioned in those texts. ?Athtart and ?Anat together hold back Ba?al from attacking the other deities. Astarte also asks Ba?al to "scatter" Yamm "Sea" after Ba?al's victory. ?Athtart is called the "Face of Ba?al".
Astarte in Egypt

Astarte arrived in Ancient Egypt during the 18th dynasty along with other deities who were worshipped by northwest Semitic people. She was especially worshipped in her aspect as a warrior goddess, often paired with the goddess Anat.

In the Contest Between Horus and Set, these two goddesses appear as daughters of Ra and are given in marriage to the god Set, here identified with the Semitic name Hadad. Astarte also was identified with the lioness warrior goddess Sekhmet, but seemingly more often conflated, at least in part, with Isis to judge from the many images found of Astarte suckling a small child. Indeed there is a statue of the 6th century BC in the Cairo Museum, which normally would be taken as portraying Isis with her child Horus on her knee and which in every detail of iconography follows normal Egyptian conventions, but the dedicatory inscription reads: "Gersaphon, son of Azor, son of Slrt, man of Lydda, for his Lady, for Astarte." See G. Daressy, (1905) pl. LXI (CGC 39291).

Plutarch, in his On Isis and Osiris, indicates that the King and Queen of Byblos, who, unknowingly, have the body of Osiris in a pillar in their hall, are Melcarthus (i.e. Melqart) and Astarte (though he notes some instead call the Queen Saosis or Nemanus, which Plutarch interprets as corresponding to the Greek name Athenais).[5]
Astarte in Phoenicia
Figurine of Astarte with a horned headdress, Louvre Museum

In the description of the Phoenician pantheon ascribed to Sanchuniathon, Astarte appears as a daughter of Epigeius (Greek: Uranus) and Ge (Earth), and sister of the god Elus. After Elus overthrows and banishes his father Epigeius, as some kind of trick Epigeius sends Elus his "virgin daughter" Astarte along with her sisters Asherah and the goddess who will later be called Ba`alat Gebal, "the Lady of Byblos".[6] It seems that this trick does not work, as all three become wives of their brother Elus. Astarte bears Elus children who appear under Greek names as seven daughters called the Titanides or Artemides and two sons named Pothos "Longing" and Eros "Desire". Later with Elus' consent, Astarte and Hadad reign over the land together. Astarte puts the head of a bull on her own head to symbolize Her sovereignty. Wandering through the world, Astarte takes up a star that has fallen from the sky (a meteorite) and consecrates it at Tyre.

Ashteroth Karnaim (Astarte was called Ashteroth in the Hebrew Bible) was a city in the land of Bashan east of the Jordan River, mentioned in Genesis 14:5 and Joshua 12:4 (where it is rendered solely as Ashteroth). The name translates literally to 'Ashteroth of the Horns', with 'Ashteroth' being a Canaanite fertitility goddess and 'horns' being symbolic of mountain peaks. Figurines of Astarte have been found at various archaeological sites in Israel, showing the goddess with two horns.[7]

Astarte's most common symbol was the crescent moon (or horns), according to religious studies scholar Jeffrey Burton Russell, in his book The Devil: Perceptions of Evil from Antiquity to Primitive Christianity.[8]
Astarte in Judah

Ashtoreth is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as a foreign, non-Judahite goddess, the principal goddess of the Sidonians or Phoenicians, representing the productive power of nature. It is generally accepted that the Masoretic "vowel pointing" adopted c. 135 AD, indicating the pronunciation ?Aštore? ("Ashtoreth," "Ashtoret") is a deliberate distortion of "Ashtart", and that this is probably because the two last syllables have been pointed with the vowels belonging to boše?, ("bosheth," abomination), to indicate that that word should be substituted when reading.[9] The plural form is pointed ?Aštaro? ("Ashtaroth"). The biblical Ashtoreth should not be confused with the goddess Asherah, the form of the names being quite distinct, and both appearing quite distinctly in the Book of 1st Kings. (In Biblical Hebrew, as in other older Semitic languages, Asherah begins with an aleph or glottal stop consonant ?, while ?Ashtoreth begins with an ?ayin or voiced pharyngeal consonant ?, indicating the lack of any plausible etymological connection between the two names.) The biblical writers may, however, have conflated some attributes and titles of the two, as seems to have occurred throughout the 1st millennium Levant.[10] For instance, the title "Queen of heaven" as mentioned in Jeremiah has been connected with both. (In later Jewish mythology, she became a female demon of lust; for what seems to be the use of the Hebrew plural form ?Aštaro? in this sense, see Astaroth).
Other associations

Some ancient sources assert that in the territory of Sidon the temple of Astarte was sacred to Europa. According to an old Cretan story, Europa was a Phoenician princess whom Zeus, having transformed himself into a white bull, abducted, and carried to Crete.[11]

Some scholars claim that the cult of the Minoan snake goddess who is identified with Ariadne (the "utterly pure")[12] was similar to the cult of Astarte. Her cult as Aphrodite was transmitted to Cythera and then to Greece.[13] Herodotus wrote that the religious community of Aphrodite originated in Phoenicia and came to Greeks from there. He also wrote about the world's largest temple of Aphrodite, in one of the Phoenician cities. Her name is the second name in an energy chant sometimes used in Wicca: "Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna."[14]
See also
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Ashteroth Karnaim, ancient city, also simply called Ashteroth in the Hebrew Bible.
Attar (god)
Ishtar
Snake goddess
Tanit

References

Merlin Stone. "When God Was A Woman". (Harvest/HBJ 1976)
K. van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter Willem van der Horst, Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, p. 109-10.
Budin, Stephanie L. (2004). "A Reconsideration of the Aphrodite-Ashtart Syncretism". Numen 51 (2): 95–145.
(Snaith, The Interpreter's Bible, 1954, Vol. 3, p. 103)
Griffiths, J. Gwyn, Plutarch's De Iside et Osiride, pp. 325–327
Je m'appelle Byblos, Jean-Pierre Thiollet, H & D, 2005, p. 73. ISBN 2 914 266 04 9
Raphael Patai. The Hebrew Goddess. (Wayne State University Press 1990). ISBN 0-8143-2271-9 p. 57.
Jeffrey Burton Russell. The Devil: Perceptions of Evil from Antiquity to Primitive Christianity. (Cornell University Press 1977). ISBN 0-8014-9409-5 p. 94.
"John Day, "Yahweh and the gods and goddesses of Canaan", p.128". Books.google.com.au. Retrieved 2014-04-25.
"Mark S. Smith, "The early history of God", p.129". Books.google.com.au. Retrieved 2014-04-25.
Lucian of Samosata. De Dea Syria.
Barry B. Powell. Classical Myth with new translation of ancient texts by H. M. Howe. Upper Saddle River. New Jersey. Prentice Hall Inc. 1998. p. 368.
R. Wunderlich. The Secret of Creta. Efstathiadis Group. Athens 1987. p. 134.

BURNING TIMES/CHANT, Charles Murphy, in Internet Book of Shadows, (Various Authors), [1999], at sacred-texts.com

Donald Harden, The Phoenicians (2nd ed., revised, London, Penguin 1980). ISBN 0-14-021375-9
Georges Daressy, Statues de Divinités, (CGC 38001-39384), vol. II (Cairo, Imprimerie de l'Institut français d'archéologie orientale, 1905).
Gerd Scherm, Brigitte Tast, Astarte und Venus. Eine foto-lyrische Annäherung (Schellerten 1996), ISBN 3-88842-603-0.

External links
Wikisource has the text of the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica article Astarte.
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Astarte (goddess).

Britannica Online Encyclopedia - Astarte (ancient deity)
Goddess Astarte: Goddess of Fertility, Beauty, War, and Love
Jewish Encyclopedia - Astarte worship among the Hebrews
 

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I read that post and have to say it was wrong.

the problem is by the time Jesus , passover and 7 days of U.B. was all clumped together.

and is very confusing in the new testement, i would recommend going back to origanel feasts to see.


i would also ask forgiveness for my bad grammer, thanks
Just to help clarify here, by the time of Christ, the Passover, Days of Unleavened Bread and the Wave Sheaf all fell under the label of the Passover...

Luk 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.
 

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My interest was in correcting inaccuracies in Rachel's post, on the assumption that readers of that post, and perhaps Rachel, herself, might be interested in an accurate presentation.
Ok.

Easter does not directly correlate with Ishtar. (correct)
Ok, thanks.

Easter does directly correlate with Oester(n); a fertility Goddess, known as goddess of the East. The fertility goddess of the East can only be Astarte.
Oester (or Eostre) is mentioned only by Bede in connection with the month-name Eosturmonath. Only the most passing of mentions to any feast, rite, celebration, or ritual is given and even then he only says that a feast of some sort existed. There is absolutely no way to say there is any relation whatsoever to Astarte. You don't know anything about Eostre - you don't know any rituals, any functions, or any myths about the deity. There is literally no way to compare to Astarte, much less conclude there is a connection between the two. I say this in the strongest way possible - we literally know nothing about Eostre and so there is no way to make a connection with Astarte.

The previous points still stand too. Gods or goddesses had a tendency to be syncretized in different polytheistic societies. They neither retained their identities across tribal-polytheistic systems nor retained their identities through time. Myths and rituals about gods changed over time and across groups. So, even if it were possible to identify Eostre with Astarte (which it isn't), it would be fair game to ask something like, "which Eostre" and "which Astarte?"
 

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Ok.



Ok, thanks.



Oester (or Eostre) is mentioned only by Bede in connection with the month-name Eosturmonath. Only the most passing of mentions to any feast, rite, celebration, or ritual is given and even then he only says that a feast of some sort existed. There is absolutely no way to say there is any relation whatsoever to Astarte. You don't know anything about Eostre - you don't know any rituals, any functions, or any myths about the deity. There is literally no way to compare to Astarte, much less conclude there is a connection between the two. I say this in the strongest way possible - we literally know nothing about Eostre and so there is no way to make a connection with Astarte.

The previous points still stand too. Gods or goddesses had a tendency to be syncretized in different polytheistic societies. They neither retained their identities across tribal-polytheistic systems nor retained their identities through time. Myths and rituals about gods changed over time and across groups. So, even if it were possible to identify Eostre with Astarte (which it isn't), it would be fair game to ask something like, "which Eostre" and "which Astarte?"
Just out of curiosity, do you celebrate Easter?
 
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This is a good question... I would like to know if I am understanding Ezekiel ch 8 correctly...

Does Easter not bring idols into the church and therefore this makes God jealous and provokes him to anger. All this is found in Ezekiel ch. 8.

EZE 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.

the name "easter" which most say comes from Ishtar is directly connected to Tammuz (Sumerian deity) I have heard that Tammuz was Ishtar's husband... Ishtar left her husband in her place in the underworld so she could live on...

EZE 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

My friends even said they get up extra early to watch the sun rise on easter...

EZE 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

I mean the whole chapter speaks of this vision that is being done in the Lord's house.... I personally do not observe Easter but rather Passover. Of course I don't think anyone intentionally worships the above listed because in their hearts they celebrate Christ's Resurrection. But those things are still there...
 

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Ok.



Ok, thanks.



Oester (or Eostre) is mentioned only by Bede in connection with the month-name Eosturmonath. Only the most passing of mentions to any feast, rite, celebration, or ritual is given and even then he only says that a feast of some sort existed. There is absolutely no way to say there is any relation whatsoever to Astarte. You don't know anything about Eostre - you don't know any rituals, any functions, or any myths about the deity. There is literally no way to compare to Astarte, much less conclude there is a connection between the two. I say this in the strongest way possible - we literally know nothing about Eostre and so there is no way to make a connection with Astarte.

The previous points still stand too. Gods or goddesses had a tendency to be syncretized in different polytheistic societies. They neither retained their identities across tribal-polytheistic systems nor retained their identities through time. Myths and rituals about gods changed over time and across groups. So, even if it were possible to identify Eostre with Astarte (which it isn't), it would be fair game to ask something like, "which Eostre" and "which Astarte?"

Bede cites the Celtic origin of Eostre. Earlier in this thread, I have cited 5 reputable encyclopedias and Dictionaries citing the Tutonic origin of Oester(n) which is definitely associated with Astarte.
 

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Just out of curiosity, do you celebrate Easter?
I go to Church Easter morning and celebrate the resurrection with everyone else, but I suppose that's about as much as I do with it. I used to do egg hunts as a kid, but that was when I could barely waddle my way around.
 

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Bede cites the Celtic origin of Eostre. Earlier in this thread, I have cited 5 reputable encyclopedias and Dictionaries citing the Tutonic origin of Oester(n) which is definitely associated with Astarte.
Bede says:

"Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated as 'Pascal Month,' in whose honor feasts were celebrated in that month." (Bede, Reckoning of Time, ch 15)

Since this is our only primary source about Eostre, how could you connect it with any other god or goddess at all? I mean, we could speculate, but that's about all we could do since the only source on the matter is rather lacking. You don't know rituals, practices, myths, or rites connected with Eostre so you cannot possibly make a connection with Astarte. There is no way to "definitely associate with Astarte." And the other problems I mentioned will still stand as well.


I have cited the 1 and only primary source on the matter. I'm skeptical of supposed "reputable" third-hand sources that go beyond what the primary source actually says.
 

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why the world celebrates easter


Antiquity of the Roman Mass(easter) why cathlic church started it

It is still redolent of that liturgy, of the days when Caesar ruled the world
and thought he could stamp out the faith of Christ, when (our fathers) met together
before dawn and sang a hymn to Christ as to a God.


the (un)holy roman empire union made easter to celebrate a pagon day,
they celebrated long before Jesus was begotten and sired by God.
and forced the world to accept it.

also The Catholic Encyclopedia reported:

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this tranference
of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
On 7 March 321, Constantine I, Rome's first Christian Emperor (see Constantine I and Christianity), decreed that Sunday would be observed as the Roman day of rest:[5]

On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits; because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain-sowing or vine-planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost
 
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Bottom line to all this, in my opinion?

I don't care what you call it.

I do care whether you celebrate it, and for the right reasons. Those right reasons are that we celebrate Resurrection Sunday/Easter/whatever-you-want-to-call-it because it commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

We as Christians believe that Jesus was killed by crucifixion on Friday and was then resurrected on the following Sunday.

It is the heart of worship, not the name of the worship, that matters to me.
 

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bottom line, Jesus gave us one sign only, and friday to easter is not it


and it is not in man to know his own steps