Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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How can you say mwc68 that the Roman Catholic Church has the Authority to twist the Scriptures to say that Mary was sinless?

Show me where in the Scriptures did God say Mary was "without sin".

Its not in the Scriptures. The Roman Catholic Church has twisted the Scriptures to their own destruction.

The Roman Catholic Church never had the Authority to interpret the Scriptures by themselves. God never gave the Roman Catholic Church the Authority to twist the Scriptures to say Mary was without sin.

Since there is no evidence in the Scriptures that God ever said that Mary was "without sin" proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false church because they are teaching lies from Satan as truths from God.

Now that you know mwc68 that the Roman Catholic Church is a false church, will you leave this false church for the True Church that is Jesus Christ? Or will you reject Jesus Christ and stay in the false church the Roman Catholic Church?
 
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The Church is the Pillar of Truth mwc68. But its the Church that is the Body of Jesus Christ which is Spiritual that is the True Church, not the corrupted Roman Catholic Church.

So when are you going to reject the false Catholic Church and turn to Jesus Christ mwc68?
 
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No matter how much Truth we show to mwc68 in the Scriptures from God will he ever accept what the Holy Spirit says because he is a natural man and cannot understand what God is saying in His Scriptures.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The reason mwc68 that you cannot receive the Truths from God is because you are a natural man and the Truth in the Scriptures is foolishness to you.

We stop being a natural man mwc68 when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and receive His Salvation for us. We stop being a natural man when we also receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit when we receive Salvation. Then we become Righteous and Justified and Sanctified by the Holy Spirit Indwelling in us.

This is what you are missing out on mwc68 by remaining in the Roman Catholic Church.
 
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Its sad to see someone so deceived by the Catholic Church that they are so willing to fight against God just for their Pride of being a Catholic.

The main theme in the Scriptures is Jesus Christ not Mary. The main theme in the Scriptures is Jesus Christ being the "Pillar of Truth" not the Catholic Church.

Its ALL about God and His Son and the Holy Spirit. Its NOT about Mary, its NOT about the Catholic Church!

Why mwc68 do you Worship Mary so much? Why mwc68 is Mary your god? How can you say you are following Jesus Christ when you have an Idol before you?

Exodus 20:3
[SUP]3 [/SUP] You shall have no other gods before Me.

Did you know mwc68 just by praying to Mary you are making her your god?

It does not matter what the Catholic Church says because they do not have Authority over God. Is God who has the final word and its God the Son who will judge you and toss you into the Lake of Fire.

Revelation 20:15
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Keep on praying to Mary and you will be cast into the lake of fire.

Before you go off on a tangent and quote where we are to ask others to pray for us. This verse was for asking those who are alive to pray for us. This verse was never intended to ask the dead to pray for us. In fact in the Scriptures its a sin to try and contact the dead.
 

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Jesus said in John 17:17 Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth.

Who is going to believe Jesus and who is not?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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No matter how much Truth we show to mwc68 in the Scriptures from God will he ever accept what the Holy Spirit says because he is a natural man and cannot understand what God is saying in His Scriptures.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The reason mwc68 that you cannot receive the Truths from God is because you are a natural man and the Truth in the Scriptures is foolishness to you.

We stop being a natural man mwc68 when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and receive His Salvation for us. We stop being a natural man when we also receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit when we receive Salvation. Then we become Righteous and Justified and Sanctified by the Holy Spirit Indwelling in us.

This is what you are missing out on mwc68 by remaining in the Roman Catholic Church.
This is your opinion and just your opinion. You have no authority or tradition so it is just your opinion, that's all!
 

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This is your opinion and just your opinion. You have no authority or tradition so it is just your opinion, that's all!
LOL that's funny. Your views are just your opinion too. They are not built on a firm foundation. They are built on SAND.
 

notuptome

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This is your opinion and just your opinion. You have no authority or tradition so it is just your opinion, that's all!
Now hold on a minute...he gave you scripture and scripture is not just an opinion. Please clarify for me do you or the RCC teach that the Holy Spirit dwells in a man when he comes to know Christ? I know you teach a real presence in the communion elements but what of the Holy Spirit dwelling in a Christian?

I would not be so quick to dismiss scripture for it is by scripture that we are made wise unto salvation. Romans 10:17 says that faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God. Romans 10:9-10 speaks of believing and confessing to God to be saved. Believing and confessing Christ not any church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Even the satanists know where the truth is. They don't hold black services or black bible study or black wed evening service. They do hold.a black mass to mock God even stealing consecrated hosts. They don't mess with yall because they already know you are mocking God
 
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The reformation is the best thing done for satan
 
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Now hold on a minute...he gave you scripture and scripture is not just an opinion. Please clarify for me do you or the RCC teach that the Holy Spirit dwells in a man when he comes to know Christ? I know you teach a real presence in the communion elements but what of the Holy Spirit dwelling in a Christian?

I would not be so quick to dismiss scripture for it is by scripture that we are made wise unto salvation. Romans 10:17 says that faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God. Romans 10:9-10 speaks of believing and confessing to God to be saved. Believing and confessing Christ not any church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
we teach Acts 2:38 so yes we teach the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Can you finally get off that?
 

valiant

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Even the satanists know where the truth is. They don't hold black services or black bible study or black wed evening service. They do hold.a black mass to mock God even stealing consecrated hosts. They don't mess with yall because they already know you are mocking God
But your mass is Satanist. Only Satan could so deceive supposedly intelligent men to accept such nonsense as bread and wine turning into real flesh and blood for people to eat and actually becoming GOD. Personally I would not boast about Satan copying me. It would suggest something very wrong with me

Isn't it strange that you have to use arguments like this because you have no Scripture to support your case?
 

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Even the satanists know where the truth is. They don't hold black services or black bible study or black wed evening service. They do hold.a black mass to mock God even stealing consecrated hosts. They don't mess with yall because they already know you are mocking God

John 14:6New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.



CCC 460, The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81






1.base on the verse above, Jesus it the truth.


2. base on ccc, we/catholic, is God.


let me repeat my question, because you not answered yet.Are you God

this teaching is like hinduism we become God.
 
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valiant

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we teach Acts 2:38 so yes we teach the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Can you finally get off that?
It is one thing to cite a verse of Scripture (unusual for you). It is quite another for you to actually believe it. What you do is misrepresent it. If you think that being baptised is a guarantee of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit you are clearly wrong.
 

valiant

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The reformation is the best thing done for satan
Will you tell Jesus Christ that? Will you tell the Holy Spirit that He was wrong to bring about such a wonderful transformation?. By this you condemn yourself.

Carry on. You are doing a good job of revealing the folly of your church.
 

notuptome

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we teach Acts 2:38 so yes we teach the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Can you finally get off that?
Why are you uncomfortable about it? John 20:22 Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit upon the apostles and disciples in the upper room before Pentecost. Scripture teaches that it is the Holy Spirit that is our seal set by God upon our souls that we are His awaiting glorification with Christ. The presence of the Holy Spirit is the earnest of our salvation and a witness that we are saved with absolute certainty. I'm not talking charismatic or Pentecostal evidence but personal evidence where God by His presence assures us that we are His.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Will you tell Jesus Christ that? Will you tell the Holy Spirit that He was wrong to bring about such a wonderful transformation?. By this you condemn yourself.

Carry on. You are doing a good job of revealing the folly of your church.
yall have already told Jesus you don't accept His Church. I don't have to do that for you. You mock His Church everyday! He knows
 

valiant

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yall have already told Jesus you don't accept His Church. I don't have to do that for you. You mock His Church everyday! He knows
well if Jesus Christ was responsible for the murder, mayhem, adultery, persecution and bloodshed perpetrated by the Roman Catholic church it would certainly make me question what I could believe. Fortunately I know He hates it as much as I do. To call it His church is to mock Him.
 
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John 14:6New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.



CCC 460, The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81






1.base on the verse above, Jesus it the truth.


2. base on ccc, we/catholic, is God.


let me repeat my question, because you not answered yet.Are you God

this teaching is like hinduism we become God.
[/QUOTno, we don't teach that and this shows you know nothing of the Church except for the lies you read online