Abide in Christ, or in sin

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Jeff_56 said:
you asked me. why didn't you ask Jesus ? I remain in Jesus and will help you if He permits, but so far you have adamantly and perniciously refused to listen to Him....
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I don't listen to you. You are confused. I've tested you to see where you are coming from and you can't answer the simplest of questions.

I listen to the Lord Jesus Christ wholeheartedly.

Don't you want to un-veil the gospel to people in whom it might be hid? I know I do.
 
dcontroversal said:
Sounds familiar...OH yeah.....there is a word for the following type of activity and seems you need to get the log out of your eye before you can see clearly dude.......

Here I will post your accusatory LIE once more.....go cut and paste where anyone who believes in eternal security has said, implied or taught what you are accusing of......or be found a liar! Rather simple.....

Originally Posted by InSpiritInTruth
They want to hear feel good preachers who tell them they can sin all they want and still be "IN CHRIST" WHICH IS A LIE.

So did the above two sins cause you to lose your salvation?
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Who convinces me of sin? And please don't try to misrepresent my comment as if it was directed to certain named persons here on the forum. "They" in my statement is whosoever believes you can live in sin and still abide in Christ...that is a lie.

Here is what I said... Originally Posted by InSpiritInTruth
They want to hear feel good preachers who tell them they can sin all they want and still be "IN CHRIST" WHICH IS A LIE.

Which is right in line with scripture, notice the word "THEY"
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

So if you disagree with my statement or my thread, you also disagree with the scriptures. And if I spoke in line with scripture, then how is it a lie?
 
DesiredHaven said:
I simply posted the conversation so the reader could see the context of the conversation

Unless you would prefer to conceal it from them?
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Yeah keep thinking that...it is an open forum...I did not conceal anything nor do I care what you post....my statement stands as the use of (THEY) makes it a direct, pointed accusation at those who believe and teach eternal security of the believer....it was nothing more than a false accusation.......so keep defending error...no biggie to me as I wont be standing in your shoes when you get judged by God for such activities....
 
tribesman said:
It's the CC thingy that one with going in and out of salvation. It just ain't there in scriptures, so we need that harmonizing element of putting forth all scripture applicable regarding justification and sanctification to get it right and sound. You and crossnote already did that here and ty for it.
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Ahhh....

So it wasn't his exact words but the impression he was leaving me with...

Something was off I just couldn't quite put my finger on it...
 
dcontroversal said:
Sounds familiar...OH yeah.....there is a word for the following type of activity and seems you need to get the log out of your eye before you can see clearly dude.......

Here I will post your accusatory LIE once more.....go cut and paste where anyone who believes in eternal security has said, implied or taught what you are accusing of......or be found a liar! Rather simple.....
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And just for the record all the words above, even the bold type are all D-cons, not my accusatory lie as he plainly misrepresents. :)
 
dcontroversal said:
I will add that the use of (THEY) in context is directed at everyone who was on that thread who believes in and was making a stand in favor of the security of the believer.....so...it was not a general statement, but a pointed statement and accusation which was false!
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Its in scripture that certain (whoever they might be) whether on the thread or anywhere (as the scriptures tell us of) who want "feel good" (as He called them) "teachers" (which the scripture calls teachers "after their lusts") because lusts are known to feel good so he called them that rather then quoting the scripture.

As I posted to Jeff

2 Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Ti 4:4And theyshall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Turning from the truth, teachers after their lusts is feel good teachers

Shows they there also

Since the doctrine of Christ is according to godliness, even the grace of God teaches us to deny worldly and ungodly lusts, and also that those who would live godly in Christ (not ungodly) would be persecuted
 
dcontroversal said:
Yeah keep thinking that...it is an open forum...I did not conceal anything nor do I care what you post....my statement stands as the use of (THEY) makes it a direct, pointed accusation at those who believe and teach eternal security of the believer....it was nothing more than a false accusation.......so keep defending error...no biggie to me as I wont be standing in your shoes when you get judged by God for such activities....
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You asked me if I was defending him for posting the context of the conversation

Like this...

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Thats all. Just in case someone couldnt find it, I was trying to be helpful
 
DesiredHaven said:
I simply posted the conversation so the reader could see the context of the conversation

Unless you would prefer to conceal it from them?
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He is trying to misrepresent my words by posting his response first, before my words in order to deceive. But you posted the context of my statement for all to see, God bless you for standing up for the Truth. :)
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
And just for the record all the words above, even the bold type are all D-cons, not my accusatory lie as he plainly misrepresents. :)
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And you gotta start quoting the scripture verbatim because by exchnaging FEEL GOOD for LUSTS here comes it

2 Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their (((((( own lusts ))))) shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


Rather then FEEL GOOD teachers

Best just quote the exact verse you will never hear the end of it.
 
clarify where if you posted to me. i think you may have posted to someone else and just got the names mixed up ....

DesiredHaven said:
Its in scripture that certain (whoever they might be) whether on the thread or anywhere (as the scriptures tell us of) who want "feel good" (as He called them) "teachers" (which the scripture calls teachers "after their lusts") because lusts are known to feel good so he called them that rather then quoting the scripture.

As I posted to Jeff

2 Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Ti 4:4And theyshall turn awaytheirears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Turning from the truth, teachers after their lusts is feel good teachers

Shows they there also

Since the doctrine of Christ is according to godliness, even the grace of God teaches us to deny worldly and ungodly lusts, and also that those who would live godly in Christ (not ungodly) would be persecuted
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dcontroversal said:
Yeah keep thinking that...it is an open forum...I did not conceal anything nor do I care what you post....my statement stands as the use of (THEY) makes it a direct, pointed accusation at those who believe and teach eternal security of the believer....it was nothing more than a false accusation.......so keep defending error...no biggie to me as I wont be standing in your shoes when you get judged by God for such activities....
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I wouldnt thinkhe should change it that would be impartial it should apply across the board whether on this one, or others or across the globe

He was slandered the whole way through the thread horribly, should I copy paste all of those?
 
Jeff_56 said:
clarify where if you posted to me. i think you may have posted to someone else and just got the names mixed up ....
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Post #32 I quoted the same verses as the ones you posted back to me here and so I mentioned that one.

You arent adressed on it, but it was a sorta in the air deal

No biggy
 
Anyway, I need to run into town. Let the accusers come, let them bring false witness, railings and blasphemy as they did in the other thread. Vengeance is the Lords He will repay. :) See ya'll when I get back. Peace.
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
Anyway, I need to run into town. Let the accusers come, let them bring false witness, railings and blasphemy as they did in the other thread. Vengeance is the Lords He will repay. :) See ya'll when I get back. Peace.
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Alrighty, I will see you later Bro, God bless you and keep you safe on your trip

Peace
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
Who convinces me of sin? And please don't try to misrepresent my comment as if it was directed to certain named persons here on the forum. "They" in my statement is whosoever believes you can live in sin and still abide in Christ...that is a lie.

Here is what I said... Originally Posted by InSpiritInTruth
They want to hear feel good preachers who tell them they can sin all they want and still be "IN CHRIST" WHICH IS A LIE.

Which is right in line with scripture, notice the word "THEY"
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

So if you disagree with my statement or my thread, you also disagree with the scriptures. And if I spoke in line with scripture, then how is it a lie?
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You do and now you add to it by trying to cover up and change your intent......here let us look again at your accusation....

Amen! Preach it Sis! :) This is not a do nothing, live like the devil and still be saved no matter what kind of faith. Abiding in Christ is abiding in the Truth, which is every word of God. OSAS says you cannot fall from faith, which is a direct casting of the truth to ground and stomping on it. Jesus said plain as day it would happen...

Luke 8:13
They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

But they won't believe Jesus either, because they love the doctrine of men more (who come in their own name) better than the Light of the Truth.

They want to hear feel good preachers who tell them they can sin all they want and still be "IN CHRIST" WHICH IS A LIE.


You can slice and dice all you want, deny, reject, argue whatever...the context and use of THEY in the present tense points clearly that you accused of something false....so whatever...it is obvious to all.....!
 
DesiredHaven said:
And you gotta start quoting the scripture verbatim because by exchnaging FEEL GOOD for LUSTS here comes it

2 Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their (((((( own lusts ))))) shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


Rather then FEEL GOOD teachers

Best just quote the exact verse you will never hear the end of it.
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I'm not bound by their accusations of me, I can speak freely in my own words as long as they are in line with scripture. It is the Truth they have a problem with, not my words only. Peace Sis.
 
DesiredHaven said:
I wouldnt thinkhe should change it that would be impartial it should apply across the board whether on this one, or others or across the globe

He was slandered the whole way through the thread horribly, should I copy paste all of those?
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He reaps what he sows.......go read all his threads as he constantly makes mouthy remarks and then tries to cover his mouthy responses with a smiley face.......so...look whatever....he falsely accused period.....!
 
InSpiritInTruth said:
I'm not bound by their accusations of me, I can speak freely in my own words as long as they are in line with scripture. It is the Truth they have a problem with, not my words only. Peace Sis.
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Yeah but when you attach the chapter verse rather then neglect to give it and tweek a word it just makes it up for grabs just to take and twist it on you.

But if you dont care


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you stated in previous posts you are carnal, and don't know how to be not carnal.
that means you don't listen to Jesus. and don't know how.
you asked me, and i told you how, as did others.
you don't listen to them either.
so, if /since you don't listen to Jesus, and you don't listen to others who speak HIS WORD,
why do you ask us questions? and not answer the pertinent questions that can help you?

Grandpa said:
I don't listen to you. You are confused. I've tested you to see where you are coming from and you can't answer the simplest of questions.

I listen to the Lord Jesus Christ wholeheartedly.

Don't you want to un-veil the gospel to people in whom it might be hid? I know I do.
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