Do not serve mammon (Luke 18:24-25)

[MikkoAinasoja]

24. And Jesus seeing him said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25. For it is easier for a camel to enter in through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25)

A man can not serve mammon, and God.

Do not deceive your self to believe that you can.

 

[fredjames]

Let us all learn to judge 'right' and 'fair', a rich man's possibility of entering the Kingdom of GOD, according to the written Holy Scripture, the word of LORD JESUS CHRIST. If we don't learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT to know and understand Holy Scripture in 'context', we would only 'divide' and not 'attract' witnesses from understanding Grace and Truth spiritual sound doctrine knowledge.

Dear MikkoAonasoja, even though you claim not to be clever in english language but you sure could 'quote' Holy Scripture taken from here and there and 'teaching'.

As it is written;

"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness."

'Do not deceive your self to believe that you can?'

Verse 24, JESUS said, 'hardly' and not 'never'.

And down the verses, HE finished off also saying;

"For man somethings are impossible but for GOD all things are possible."

Since for GOD 'all things are possible', didn't the chief tax collector Lazarus, the short rich man mentioned in the Gospel 'enter' upon meeting JESUS in 'faith'?

 

[fredjames]

A man can not serve mammon, and God.

Yes, as it is written;

"You cannot serve GOD and mammon."

It is also written what JESUS said to HS disciples in Luke 16; 9 that;

"And I tell you make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous wealth , so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal dwellings."

Since JESUS was talking to HIS disciples, this may also be for Christian businessmen, even rich through 'unrighteous wealth', because the goal for 100% profits in all they do or sell.

Please also take note JESUS's word, 'eternal dwellings' with an 's'?

For we all know as Christians taught by the HOLY SPIRIT that there are 'two eternal dwellings', either Heaven or Hell.

Thank you again and GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you all.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

Let us all learn to judge 'right' and 'fair', a rich man's possibility of entering the Kingdom of GOD, according to the written Holy Scripture, the word of LORD JESUS CHRIST. If we don't learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT to know and understand Holy Scripture in 'context', we would only 'divide' and not 'attract' witnesses from understanding Grace and Truth spiritual sound doctrine knowledge.

Dear MikkoAonasoja, even though you claim not to be clever in english language but you sure could 'quote' Holy Scripture taken from here and there and 'teaching'.

As it is written;

"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness."

'Do not deceive your self to believe that you can?'

Verse 24, JESUS said, 'hardly' and not 'never'.

And down the verses, HE finished off also saying;

"For man somethings are impossible but for GOD all things are possible."

Since for GOD 'all things are possible', didn't the chief tax collector Lazarus, the short rich man mentioned in the Gospel 'enter' upon meeting JESUS in 'faith'?

I do know my responsibilities, when I teach.

Do you think, that this (Luke 18:24-25) is not about serving the mammon?

And yes, the verse 24 say hardly, and it continues, that easier is to camel enter through the needle's eye.

The camel can not go trough the needle's eye, but rather it will go, than the man who loves riches.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

Let us all learn to judge 'right' and 'fair', a rich man's possibility of entering the Kingdom of GOD, according to the written Holy Scripture, the word of LORD JESUS CHRIST. If we don't learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT to know and understand Holy Scripture in 'context', we would only 'divide' and not 'attract' witnesses from understanding Grace and Truth spiritual sound doctrine knowledge.

Dear MikkoAonasoja, even though you claim not to be clever in english language but you sure could 'quote' Holy Scripture taken from here and there and 'teaching'.

As it is written;

"Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness."

'Do not deceive your self to believe that you can?'

Verse 24, JESUS said, 'hardly' and not 'never'.

And down the verses, HE finished off also saying;

"For man somethings are impossible but for GOD all things are possible."

Since for GOD 'all things are possible', didn't the chief tax collector Lazarus, the short rich man mentioned in the Gospel 'enter' upon meeting JESUS in 'faith'?

And yes, it is about to follow the Spirit, but if a man's heart is to the riches, then God's word can't find no space in that man.

You should also give your life truly to God, because I see that the Spirit has not find yet the space on you. You have like much to say, even though you do not have, but you just rice against the good exhortation, and try make it look bad, and your self good.

Is that a way for righteousness?

No it is not.

Do the improvement in your life.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yes, as it is written;

"You cannot serve GOD and mammon."

It is also written what JESUS said to HS disciples in Luke 16; 9 that;

"And I tell you make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous wealth , so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal dwellings."

Since JESUS was talking to HIS disciples, this may also be for Christian businessmen, even rich through 'unrighteous wealth', because the goal for 100% profits in all they do or sell.

Please also take note JESUS's word, 'eternal dwellings' with an 's'?

For we all know as Christians taught by the HOLY SPIRIT that there are 'two eternal dwellings', either Heaven or Hell.

Thank you again and GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you all.

What a distortion of scripture. It's not when the money fails, but when they fail.

Luke 16:8-9[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."

The everlasting habitations of "they" is referring to the children of this world and friends of the mammon of unrighteousness. So the everlasting habitations was not Heaven.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

What a distortion of scripture. It's not when the money fails, but when they fail.

Luke 16:8-9[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."

The everlasting habitations of "they" is referring to the children of this world and friends of the mammon of unrighteousness. So the everlasting habitations was not Heaven.

How can children's of the world can be able, to give us the everlasting habitations?

It has to mean everlasting life.

 

[fredjames]

I do know my responsibilities, when I teach.

Do you think, that this (Luke 18:24-25) is not about serving the mammon?

And yes, the verse 24 say hardly, and it continues, that easier is to camel enter through the needle's eye.

The camel can not go trough the needle's eye, but rather it will go, than the man who loves riches.

How can a camel go in through a 'needle's eye'?

What is the needle's eye?

Please just answer this two question in order for a 'teacher of the Kingdom of GOD to 'teach' everyone.

Thank you and GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST our MASTER.

 

[fredjames]

And yes, it is about to follow the Spirit, but if a man's heart is to the riches, then God's word can't find no space in that man.

You should also give your life truly to God, because I see that the Spirit has not find yet the space on you. You have like much to say, even though you do not have, but you just rice against the good exhortation, and try make it look bad, and your self good.

Is that a way for righteousness?

No it is not.

Do the improvement in your life.

'Lazarus' heart is to the riches in 'cheating' and 'working' for the Romans and against his people collecting tax and even taking advantage and received a title as 'a chief tax collector', head of other 'tax collectors' for the Romans. And he was also a target for the group of Jews called 'the zealot'.

Even being in all of his of 'gain' and 'reputation', JESUS found 'room in his heart', who in faith seek JESUS, not worrying about his expensive clothing and reputation, climbed the tree to see JESUS, when he did or could not find room through the crowd.

How did JESUS respond?

Have you learn from this 'context' by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT that JESUS took a longer way going towards Jerusalem and pass through Jericho that day. And in the midst of all the crowd in 'mass' waiting to see JESUS, that Lazarus himself being short and hated could not get through.

Mysteriously Lazarus the sinner against GOD and his people, was the only one JESUS chose to 'dine' with in his own 'wretched gained' house. Lazarus then proved in his 'faith' and 'action' in 'repentance' by doing what was 'right' according to the New Covenant/Testament of CHRIST.

Did you do the same for CHRIST in action of 'faith' and 'action' to HIS Word/Teaching, before you 'teach' others 'out of context' version, even to the extend of 'condemning' using GOD's word and 'incomplete', that they will never 'enter', even as a rich man like 'Lazarus' today?

Repent in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, before you and your 'supporters' think are 'wise' to teach, GOD's by and for CHRIST called 'lambs and sheep' according to the New Covenant/Testament better than the HOLY SPIRIT of HIS 'inspired' Holy Scripture.

 

[fredjames]

What a distortion of scripture. It's not when the money fails, but when they fail.

Luke 16:8-9[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."

The everlasting habitations of "they" is referring to the children of this world and friends of the mammon of unrighteousness. So the everlasting habitations was not Heaven.

Are you in 'delusion' as well?

With all due respect to you because of Grace and Truth has been shown to me, therefore you and your 'friend' go and read back the Holy Scripture in 'context', starting from the 'beginning', that JESUS was 'talking' to HIS 'disciples' and not the 'crowd'.

And JESUS is referring to them.

As it is written;

"To those who have ears, let him listen."

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

How can children's of the world can be able, to give us the everlasting habitations?

It has to mean everlasting life.

They can't. The Lord is talking about going into eternal damnation (everlasting habitation) There is more than one everlasting habitation.

Mark 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Matthew 18:8
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Are you in 'delusion' as well?

With all due respect to you because of Grace and Truth has been shown to me, therefore you and your 'friend' go and read back the Holy Scripture in 'context', starting from the 'beginning', that JESUS was 'talking' to HIS 'disciples' and not the 'crowd'.

And JESUS is referring to them.

As it is written;

"To those who have ears, let him listen."

Your translation is off, read the KJV, nothing to do with context. Also read post 11, have a nice day.

 

[fredjames]

They can't. The Lord is talking about going into eternal damnation (everlasting habitation) There is more than one everlasting habitation.

Please stop in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, in desperation 'perverting' the written Holy Scripture, when your 'earlier quote' was habitation with 's' and now without.

This is as 'twisting' the Word/CHRIST of GOD from 'as it is written' in order to 'deceive' GOD by and for CHRIST's lambs and sheep.

Why the 'hurry' and therefore 'miss the true road home'?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

They can't. The Lord is talking about going into eternal damnation (everlasting habitation) There is more than one everlasting habitation.

Please stop in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, in desperation 'perverting' the written Holy Scripture, when your 'earlier quote' was habitation with 's' and now without.

This is as 'twisting' the Word/CHRIST of GOD from 'as it is written' in order to 'deceive' GOD by and for CHRIST's lambs and sheep.

Why the 'hurry' and therefore 'miss the true road home'?

Find you a new translation, the text is clear who fails,....and it's not the money that fails according to your translation.

Luke 16:8-9[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."

 

[fredjames]

Your translation is off, read the KJV, nothing to do with context. Also read post 11, have a nice day.

With all due respect to you and the lambs and sheep who only listen to the 'voice' of their 'GOOD SHEPHERD' and follow HIM and not me, according to the KJV version.

Chapter 16 and verse 1:

"And HE said also unto HIS disciple's', ........................................................."

Therefore JESUS is speaking to HIS disciple's' and to only them after this 'parable'.

Verse 9:

"And I say onto you, 'Make to yourselve's' ............................................................................ everlasting habitation's'."

Again, we all know there is 'only' two everlasting habitation's', one is Heaven and another Hell.

Even a 'believer' can be a 'dishonest manager' misusing GOD will 'providence' through 'business'(wicked wealth) according to JESUS's parable, for their carnal/flesh/self's 'passions' and 'desires' and making 'provision' for them and their similar sinner friends and rather not for the needy Christians who are poor.

There seems to be nothing very wrong with the written 'versions', but only our 'own' versions, 'incomplete' in understanding according to written 'context', without the 'Helper', the HOLY SPIRIT sent to us by CHRIST of the Living GOD, for GOD and us.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yes, as it is written;

"You cannot serve GOD and mammon."

It is also written what JESUS said to HS disciples in Luke 16; 9 that;

"And I tell you make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous wealth , so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal dwellings."

Alright, I'm going to show you this one more time, compare YOUR translation of Luke 16:9 to the KJV here...

Luke 16:9 "And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations."

YOUR TRANSLATION HAS TOTALLY CORRUPTED THE TEXT AND THE MEANING OF LUKE16:9

 

[DesiredHaven]

I dont know what the text is saying there but in Genesis its showing money failing

Gen 47:15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth.

So it does show money failing at least there

 

[DesiredHaven]

Are you in 'delusion' as well?

With all due respect to you because of Grace and Truth has been shown to me, therefore you and your 'friend' go and read back the Holy Scripture in 'context', starting from the 'beginning', that JESUS was 'talking' to HIS 'disciples' and not the 'crowd'.

And JESUS is referring to them.

As it is written;

"To those who have ears, let him listen."

Try referencing scripture better to make your points

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I dont know what the text is saying there but in Genesis its showing money failing

Gen 47:15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth.

So it does show money failing at least there

I know dear, but we are not talking about Gen 47:15 LOL. I was pointing out the big difference in his translation of Luke 16:9 and the KJV. His version corrupts the true meaning. But people can believe what they will, I tried.

 

[DesiredHaven]

I know dear, but we are not talking about Gen 47:15 LOL. I was pointing out the big difference in his translation of Luke 16:9 and the KJV. His version corrupts the true meaning. But people can believe what they will, I tried.

Yes I know Bro, I was just showing from scripture money can fail