Science and God

[XrisSimo]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

 

[kodiak]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

I know that many Christians still believe in dinosaurs. The science behind evolution and Big Bang has many flaws. Evolution cannot explain everything. They teach that evolution consists of micro and macro evolution. Micro is just small changes within a species. Macro is the big changes between the species. There is no evidence that macro evolution occurs and it cannot even be explained at a molecular level. I have heard "it just happens" but they cannot prove it or explain it.

Big Bang has problems of its own. The universe had to have a beginning. Because if you are driving to Florida and the road sign says infinity miles away, you will never reach Florida. So the particles that they believe caused the explosion came from nothing. This just doesn't make sense, especially when explosions only destroy, i have never seen a bomb create a house.
Many believe dinosaurs are even mentioned in the Bible. Job 14:15-24 describes an animal known as behemoth. It is believed to be a dinosaur. There is plenty of evidence that dinosaurs existed.

I hope this post makes sense to you. If you have any questions, let me know and I will attempt to answer.

 

[Calmador]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

Hey XrisSimo, for starters don't worry about it too much. What exactly do you want an explanation of? You said you wanted an explanation.... but explanation for what?

Anyways, the reason I believe the big bang theory or evolution doesn't affect my faith

I want to share this video of three christian philosophers answer some questions of objections. Make sure to see the whole video. I'm a philosophy fan so I think this video is awesome. I know some of the language philosopher use might be a bit foreign but try to understand.... they go into really fundamental issues that are more important than you may never even begin to hear from a scientific viewpoint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD45uWxyF_Y

I'd also recommend this site for the big bang and evolution. They tackle the issues from a scientific angle.

https://answersingenesis.org/

Let me know what you think and what questions you have.. okay =]

 

[sealabeag]

Big question! Anyway, this is a site I find quite good for questions like that: Evolution News & Views
I also recommend looking up Stephen Meyer on YouTube and/or reading his books, and also John Lennox.
Another interesting documentary is called Expelled: "No Intelligence Allowed" which looks into the silencing of critics of Darwinism in Universities. Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EPymcWp-g

There's loads of information out there online and in written form for the inquiring Christian mind. Look up "Intelligent Design", and you'll find lots of stuff.


It's too big a topic for me to try and write a response so I think it's better for me to recommend materials that you can spend some time looking into.

If you want more let me know.

 

[Calmador]

I have watched half of this, but so far I think Ravi has done a great job. (I should get ready for church now... time) Please watch this... I know it's long, but Ravi goes into how atheism cannot rationally produce morality. Also, it seems Ravi has made this people friendly... jokes, poems, and easy to get into for most people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNQmDwpF8tc

 

[MadParrotWoman]

This is a topic very close to my heart - apologetics, it is something I'm not particularly gifted at for the simple reason that in order to be good at apologetics you must have a good understanding of science - I don't. What I do know is that both the Bible and science often tally together which comes as a surprise to many. some of the greatest minds are in fact Christians, some do not admit this to their peers. One thing I have found is that often when there are new scientific findings discovered they always seems to me to back-up God's word. There are far too many scientific facts that tally with the Bible to list here but the obvious ones Joe Atheist asks about are these two:

The big bang theory: Did nothingness make this come about? How did it happen? If the big bang was caused by something colliding in nothingness who created that something? If God created the heavens and the earth as in Genesis do you think it all came to be in a whimper?
Time: Scientists agree that time had a beginning. God is outside of time and created it so yeah it would have a beginning.

Haha as you can see I'm no scientist but what I do have is a commonsense approach.

 

[Pumicestone]

Switch on your computer - that's science. Go to your doctor -science. Drive a car, use a phone, open your refrigerator or microwave your dinner .... all science.
We have "faith" in this science every day - rarely even thinking about it.

But .... let science suggest an alternative to the biblical creation story or Noah's 'ark' or even climate-change
and so many Christians go bonkers !
That is not logical, Mr Spock.

 

[kodiak]

This is a topic very close to my heart - apologetics, it is something I'm not particularly gifted at for the simple reason that in order to be good at apologetics you must have a good understanding of science - I don't. What I do know is that both the Bible and science often tally together which comes as a surprise to many. some of the greatest minds are in fact Christians, some do not admit this to their peers. One thing I have found is that often when there are new scientific findings discovered they always seems to me to back-up God's word. There are far too many scientific facts that tally with the Bible to list here but the obvious ones Joe Atheist asks about are these two:

The big bang theory: Did nothingness make this come about? How did it happen? If the big bang was caused by something colliding in nothingness who created that something? If God created the heavens and the earth as in Genesis do you think it all came to be in a whimper?
Time: Scientists agree that time had a beginning. God is outside of time and created it so yeah it would have a beginning.

Haha as you can see I'm no scientist but what I do have is a commonsense approach.

I am also interested in apologetics. There are some topics that do not require science though. that is a good point, the universe must have a cause.

Switch on your computer - that's science. Go to your doctor -science. Drive a car, use a phone, open your refrigerator or microwave your dinner .... all science.
We have "faith" in this science every day - rarely even thinking about it.

But .... let science suggest an alternative to the biblical creation story or Noah's 'ark' or even climate-change
and so many Christians go bonkers !
That is not logical, Mr Spock.

Sadly, this belief is a common belief. The difference between these two sciences is that these can be proven, but the big bang cannot be proven. Computers have a creator, but science tries to say that something more complex than a computer formed from an explosion without a creator.....Sadly many people blindly accept all science without looking at the facts and evidence for each topic. Just because someone has been correct many times, does not mean that everything they say is correct.

 

[Jokurandomi]

What christians want to know is a good website

What Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs?

 

[twamps21]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

I personally don't know how dinosaurs fit into the whole concept of the Bible. That is something I would love to learn more about.
As far as the big bang theory goes the way I think of it is, God spoke the world into existence, it just appeared when he spoke. Who is to say that, that's not what it looked like?

I don't know if you have ever seen the movie God's not Dead, but in the movie his professor is attacking God using scientific arguments. The movie does a great job of refuting these arguments using science and the Bible. I would definitely recommend it if you haven't seen it.

 

[kingerik]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

Science is not the opposition of God. Science is in fact the way we can prove that God exists. It's impossible for science to crash with God because if God exist than science will prove that everything he does is possible. Some secular theories are more theoretical than others and some are speculative without any proof or stretched, you really should do your own study. Evolution is not bad as there are different parts of evolution. God could also definitely have created the universe using the big-bang, he said it and the universe was. An explosion.

 

[Tintin]

Here you go...

Three biblically-sound Christian websites centered around science and faith:
I encourage you to check them all out (especially the first two). There's a Search function and plenty of articles to explore. Enjoy!

Creation Ministries International
Creation | Creation Ministries International

Answers In Genesis
https://answersingenesis.org/

Institute for Creation Research
The Institute for Creation Research | The Institute for Creation Research

 

[zoii]

Ok so, I have many reasons to never doubt the existence of God. God has been my strength for so many years. But even with all of that I still dont understand: the Big Bang, evolution... All of that. Now, I want everyone to understand, I was never really interested in science. I never cared enough to think about it outside of class, but now these things are sort of "crashing" with the existence of God. And now I suddenly see how Christians don't want to believe in dinosaurs anymore.... It's confusing to me!
Can someone please explain to me or give me something to read about it, cz I want an explanation from someone who believes in God. Not just to tell me, "the bible says so". I really need an explanation... :/

Hiya. Well don't worry I had similar questions. I don't feel the same way as most here. I fully accept that the universe is billions of years old and that the earth is similarly old. The big bang is a theory yes but its supported by a massive volume of evidence including the nobel prize winning work of Smoot & Maher. I also support evolution - not because a book told me so, but because there is a massive volume of evidence including fossil evidence, carbon dating processes and DNA mapping. On that basis I don't support people's view that THEIR interpretation of the bible is that evolution and big bang just didn't occur - I stress its peoples interpretation on what is written in the bible and its not every Christians interpretation. Its Ok to have a different view of the world on these matters and that doesn't make u a bad person or bad Christian. It just means your alive and have a thinking brain.

I believe in GOD. I believe in science. AND I think the two perfectly match. Big bang came from a singularity (u can tell this is my fav topic right lol ). A singularity is a point of infinite density, infinitely small, infinitely hot. and suddenly rapidly expanded to our universe. SOooooooo...Genesis - let their be light - where did the singularity come from - GOD put it there and said let their be light - BANGGG - Genesis then describes the emergence of the stars culminating in life on earth. OK the order of things might not have great detail but hey..the scribe after all came from 2500 years ago or so so...maybe cut the guy a break on the detail. So for me Big Bang really does force the question...where did this all come from and, at least for me, makes me believe more strongly in GOD and a creator.

 

[Pumicestone]

"Amen" Zoii - and so lucidly stated !

I suspect you'll cop a verbal flogging. But I reckon you expected that.
Confronting 'sacred cows' is rarely well-received.

But, we'll see.

 

[didymos]

Switch on your computer - that's science. Go to your doctor -science. Drive a car, use a phone, open your refrigerator or microwave your dinner .... all science...

Nope, that's APPLIED science.

 

[zoii]

Nope, that's APPLIED science.

Applied science.... ie the application of scientific principles to practical applications (wikepedia definition)..... so, like the guy said... switch on anything, use your phone, drive your car... thats science. What ru so afraid of

 

[didymos]

Applied science.... ie the application of scientific principles to practical applications (wikepedia definition)..... so, like the guy said... switch on anything, use your phone, drive your car... thats science. What ru so afraid of

And yeah, some people think "wiki" is science as well. "Applied science" as in "science applied," not the academic discipline.

Btw, who says I'm afraid? I work at the uni for crying out loud, lol.

 

[Tintin]

"Amen" Zoii - and so lucidly stated !

I suspect you'll cop a verbal flogging. But I reckon you expected that.
Confronting 'sacred cows' is rarely well-received.

But, we'll see.

We all have our own 'sacred cows' at times. But biblically-sound teachings aren't 'sacred cows', they're truth.

 

[zoii]

And yeah, some people think "wiki" is science as well. "Applied science" as in "science applied," not the academic discipline.

Btw, who says I'm afraid? I work at the uni for crying out loud, lol.

As what though.....OK I'm teasing...but your trying to use semantics to avoid the point. The OP was asking about science as it relates to his faith in GOD.

 

[didymos]

As what though.....OK I'm teasing...but your trying to use semantics to avoid the point. The OP was asking about science as it relates to his faith in GOD.

Not as a cleaner, I assure you. Btw I responded to you, not to the OP. There are multiple threads on "science and religion" already, she could have looked into those first.